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 Brother SRM wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

I'm in love.

These look great!

If these translate into miniature form like they are now, I may be in trouble as well...so far I like the Prussians the most, but these Brits are mighty fine looking as well!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I must have that bathchair warrior

He looks so much fun


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Do want.

It's like they're making the game I always wished 40k was...

Wow... these look amazing.

This looks like it has possibilities.

Gonna have to wait until they've got an American distributor and rule pdfs before I decide whether to get into it. Will probably play the Brits because I prefer long-range shooting and power armor.

So anyone want to give a rundown history of what's different between the FSA and USA? Intelligence brief made it sound like the Civil War had a different ending.

In a nutshell, the industrial revolution occurred 70 years early in the Dystopian time frame. This lead to more developments in agricultural technology and no real need for slaves on big plantations. This allowed for the abolishment of slavery much earlier on in America's past, and with substantially less bloodshed.

There was still an American Civil War though, still about states rights but one of these rights was not to keep their slave property.

Because there were no complicated ethical issues for England, they sided with the Confederacy and helped them defeat the Union. Then it shortly comes into the current times for Dystopian Wars and Dystopian Legions.

RogueRegault wrote:
Gonna have to wait until they've got an American distributor

Unsure about buyable pdfs but MM carries Spartan stuff

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/table-top-miniatures/spartan-games/dystopian-legions.html

Left one out, who does not want a samurai riding a steam powered hover-bike?

 kenshin620 wrote:
Unsure about buyable pdfs but MM carries Spartan stuff

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/table-top-miniatures/spartan-games/dystopian-legions.html

Oh crap, there goes my willpower.

Those steampunk armored knights with pistols are stunning. I was going to hold off until they launched the Covenant of Antarctica faction, but the knights may be too good to pass up.

"Covenant of Antarctica"?

That sounds very interesting - what's that one all about?

IIRC they are the ones who discover the tech and ensure that all nations gain the technological gains but turn into a nation at war of its own to keep the other nations in check.

 BrookM wrote:
IIRC they are the ones who discover the tech and ensure that all nations gain the technological gains but turn into a nation at war of its own to keep the other nations in check.

Basically this. A nation of scientists and adventurers using advanced technology to live in Antarctica. Kinda like Rapture from Bioshock, except for the catastrophic collapse part. They gave some of their technology to the other nations to make the world better, but everyone ended up using it to fight each other, so they got in on the fighting too to keep any one nation from getting too powerful. It sounds silly when I explain it like that.

 Guildsman wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
IIRC they are the ones who discover the tech and ensure that all nations gain the technological gains but turn into a nation at war of its own to keep the other nations in check.

Basically this. A nation of scientists and adventurers using advanced technology to live in Antarctica. Kinda like Rapture from Bioshock, except for the catastrophic collapse part. They gave some of their technology to the other nations to make the world better, but everyone ended up using it to fight each other, so they got in on the fighting too to keep any one nation from getting too powerful. It sounds silly when I explain it like that.

It makes sense to me though.

That and they are colossal donkey-caves, especially when I play against a friend with his fleet. Particle cannons and drone fighters without a fuel capacity, melon-fether..

 BrookM wrote:

 kenshin620 wrote:
Unsure about buyable pdfs but MM carries Spartan stuff

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/table-top-miniatures/spartan-games/dystopian-legions.html

Oh crap, there goes my willpower.

There's also TheWarstore.

http://www.thewarstore.com/dystopianlegions.html

Spartan Games has stated they will be providing the rules for free from their website when the models become available.

Also the rules should be provided in the starter sets.

I know there are many LGS's around the US that currently carry Spartan Games products, and will carry Dystopian Legions. I know my LGS in the DFW area has told me they will be.

who does not want a samurai riding a steam powered hover-bike?

The people who want the prussian armoured steampunk knights!

Scratch that, I want both.
But I collect Antarctica and Brittania in DWars. Ahh too cool, making my head hurt.

Empire of the Blazing Sun for IG guard models AND some Death Cult Assassins?
Tempting.

Quick start game rules and army lists now available for download.

http://www.spartangames.co.uk/resources/downloads

Looks like exploding dice are back on the menu and colour-coded for our convenience.

Seems to me the FSA (or at least their main sections) are a bit underpowered right now. They break even with the Prussian and British guns at range 1, gain all the penalties of Long Range at range 2(When the other two are still effective.) and have the same base move and IR as other infantry. In addition, the squad specialist can't use its Mortar ability on any target within effective range of the rest of the squad. Machinegunner costs 120% more than a normal squad member, but only does 77% more damage. Crank cards would have to be very nice to justify the cost.

Note that using weapons at long range is not only a to-hit penalty, but also requires a command point. Also note that Forward Observer doesn't allow the model to pick a target different from its section.

Edit: Okay, so they really need to rephrase the section on buying "upgrades" in the quick rules. The point cost listed is the total cost of the Sergeant/Weapons Specialist and not the cost to upgrade from the base infantryman. I figured this out by looking at the starter contents and working back from 100. The machine gunner only costs 20% more than a normal squaddie.

I bought a Japanese Starter Box, some Prussians and some British.
While the models are fine sculpts they are also TOTALLY out of scale.
A typical soldier is 40mm high! Absolutely useless with any other minis line.

 AAN wrote:
I bought a Japanese Starter Box, some Prussians and some British.
While the models are fine sculpts they are also TOTALLY out of scale.
A typical soldier is 40mm high! Absolutely useless with any other minis line.

Hmm, that's seriously disappointing.

 AAN wrote:
I bought a Japanese Starter Box, some Prussians and some British.
While the models are fine sculpts they are also TOTALLY out of scale.
A typical soldier is 40mm high! Absolutely useless with any other minis line.

Really? Do you have a comparison picture? They advertise it fairly explicitly as 28mm game I think.

I will post a comparison pic later...


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OK, one pic says more than 1000 words:

All minis are standing on a standard GW base, but the painted minis are raised on 1-2 mm milliput, so in direct comparison the Dystopian minis is even bigger.

http://www.adpublishing.de/html/victorian_sf.html
As said nice mini, but the size makes them only usable within Dystopian Legion!

On a plus point, when I get my Lord Flashheart , apologies Gilbert Smethington II, he will look EVEN MORE HEROIC while "Doooooing it".

If you are are planning to use the minis ONLY with other Dystopian minis all will be fine, but with every other 28mm (even heroic scale 28mm) mini they will look ridiculous.

I presume that might even be the intention of Spartan!

Thanks for the warning, that's quite a disappointment, as I was going to use them for other games. :(

Well that's potentially dissapointing for those looking to mix and match

but then again they are sold as dystopian war minis, so maybe in the dystopian universe folk are 7.5 to 8 feet tall ?

 AAN wrote:
If you are are planning to use the minis ONLY with other Dystopian minis all will be fine, but with every other 28mm (even heroic scale 28mm) mini they will look ridiculous.

I presume that might even be the intention of Spartan!

Perhaps. But they could've simply announced Dystopian Legions as 30mm or even 35mm game. Quite a few games out there that go slightly larger than GW's 28mm standard these days.