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Ah you ninja'd me. Just watched that movie with my kid the other night.

Experiment 626 wrote:
Don't blame them for the sheer stupidity of your average over-protective b***** soccer moms here in North America...
Hell, my local GW store had to bookshelf their boxes of the Diaz 'nettes because so many of these jumped-up b***** would get screaming mad that their little 6 year-old had just been "psychologically scared" by seeing little miniature daemon boobies. .

Of course, a bunch of minnature men shooting each other is fine. Daemons ripping people to shreds is not a problem. No psychological scarring there.

But show a boobie......


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 MetalOxide wrote:


This could make a good cannon chariot if the horses were replaced by juggernauts. What do you guys think?

I love the idea. I hate putting warmachine models together.

 pretre wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Can we leave the Ward garbage out? The guy on warseer didn't even support it as a rumor, it was just a passing comment.

Down boy, down. . I just asked question. Didn't even say anything bad about him.

Guilty conscience? I was responding mostly to Exp626 and the potential for the thread to go downhill.

Appologies, but it's kind of difficult for Fantasy players to pass a Terror test when we're possibly set to have the same author again...

I really, really want Daemons to be balanced! We've been at one extreme of the spectrum since 6th edition!
We sucked monkeyballs in the HoC list when entire units would simply go 'Poof!' because you failed a single break test, to being the army that broke an entire edition in 7th!

Meanwhile in 40k, we were disgustingly good, (or rather Bloodletters we broken), in the 3.5 edition CSM codex, and then got our own codex only to be the game's worst army in 5th due to it becoming 'Mechhammer 40k' before being rendered utterly unplayable by the new GK's codex...
6th has helped us quite bit, until the WD update hit and now suddenly we're apparently ruining 40k like we did the last edition of Fantasy.


As a long suffering Daemon player, I demand balance for once GW!

Apart the the Nurgle flies these look fine to me (at least based on what I can tell on these tiny pictures.) Chariots look interesting, and I like how they do not look just like Chaos Warrior chariots with daemons on them; they look weird and organic.

Overall, I like that GW has recently decided to take some risks with various chaos modes and tried some unusual designs. Sure, results have been hit or miss, but at least it keeps things from getting stale. (Those huge daemonic monsters for Chaos Warriors were gorgeous, for example.)

Wow. Another weak release from GW. Nothing in this release comes close to inspiring me. Average to shoddy across the board.
Heralds aren't bad, but as others said, can make similar figures out of the plastic kits and a bit of green stuff.
Tzeentch chariot looks alright. Flaming one, horrible. Flat flames just don't work.
Plague Drones look awful. Will note Harry over at Warseer openly said that the paint job ruined the models. Will have to see about getting some fly wings and putting them on my Plague Toads.
The Khorne Chariot, first thing popped in my head when I saw it was Ratfink for some reason. I love Ratfink's art, but not in my WHFB. The other comment of it looking like something off of a 80's metal cover is also appropriate.

Korne Skull Cannon? More like ... Khorne... Nidhead Cannon!


Okay, look the joke here is that the bottom of the front of the cannon looks like the head of a Carnifex to me. Same armor plates and everything. I just suck at jokes.

 tarnish wrote:
Im at the point in the hobby when i just look forward to the new releases because they allow me to convert my own versions of the new units

Amen brother

- Salvage

 Spazz wrote:
Maybe this has been covered (i didn't have time to read the whole thread) but , wasn't there supposed to be a new greater daemons. Khorne and nurgle for this wave?

Hastings said that there will be plastic models for all 4 of them eventually. Most (except Harry) expected them for this wave.

Also:

Lester over at Warseer wrote:I was just told that the Battalion / Battleforce box is changing to:

5 Seekers of Slaanesh
3 Nurglings
10 Plaguebearers
10 Bloodletters
3 Screamers of Tzeentch

Make what you will of that.

75hastings69 wrote:I quite like the burning chariot, well apart from the "flames"???? They look more like the citadel wood lol! Terrible sculpting. Not sold with the other build thanks to the "stuff" bunged under the disc - a nice clear plastic flying stand would have worked wonders IMO.

The drones look 10 times worse painted, so with a decent paint job they may be ok.

Nurgle herald ok, but too similar to rank & file, should have been fatter like a slimmer GUO.

Khorne herald ok but nothing groundbreaking - wouldn't want to own a model with a very long blade like the hell blade as in finecrap that will be curled up all over the place.

The slaanesh herald is ok IMO.

The Segway of Khorne is utterly appalling, it makes the slaughterbrute look like a work of art! I've literally no idea what they were thinking when they came up with this.

If I were still collecting I don't think I'd buy anything, it has made my mind up that ill be selling my existing daemons which is good...... more £ to spend on the Helldorado Kickstarter

Oh, and if I had to guess, I would put Vetock as the author of at least one daemon book. He claimed to have 4 done some time ago, one being released since then.

Segway of Khorne! Hahaha!

I don't like that new content for the Daemon Battalion

1. The plague drones are so bad its almost like a joke. They should have been miniature blight drones, instead we get stupid looking flies with Mr snufflupagus' snout. They may sell these on the back of the rules but OMG they suck donkey spheres.

2. The Tzeentch chariot looks ridiculous. It may look better with all that stupid effect removed but then its just plain. It
looks marginally better with the herald but then it should have been a massive screamer. Something another model company already makes and looks awesome.

3. The khorne chariot should have been an unstoppable mass of spikes pulled by juggernaughts. Instead we get "scrap for the scrap god". It looks about as menacing as my little pony in gimp gear. Its like the Adams families shopping cart FFS.

4. We have three Heralds. Of all the models in the Chaos line that were not required it was heralds. There is nothing that couldn't be made yourself by converting and kit bashing. They are Ok but nothing more. We also already have three special characters that can be used as heralds and look far cooler. Add to that two are failcast and have protruding thin bits that will almost certainly be all bendy when you come to use the models just adds to the high cost of all three.

In terms of Models I loved the dark angels release. There were some models I din't like but then others did, overall though they were cool.

There is literally nothing released here Id want even if they did a 50% sale on release day.

Where the hell are the models everyone wanted. Plastic fiends, new greater deamons etc.

Add to that the new greater deamons are reportedly finished. Meaning they probably will still put pictures of the old ones in the codex despite how bad they are.

I'm sorry but its a piss poor effort.

The only model I like from this release is the Herald of Khorne but I wont be touching that in finecast (shudders).

Makes me wonder how badly they nerfed the greater daemon models. I really hope they got them right but doubts are high after seeing this release.

 BrassScorpion wrote:

This could make a good cannon chariot if the horses were replaced by juggernauts. What do you guys think?

I still think the GW sculpts for the most part simply blow away anything made by PP, I've never liked much of their work. I like most of the kits GW has done for the past few months regardless of what the most vociferous forum users have been saying. Much of the Chaos stuff is a return to ideas that were around when I got hooked on GW designs more than 2 decades ago and that's just fine with me.

I respectfully disagree, PP have done some absolutley gorgeous minis, heck, I have even planned on using some of PP's Cryx faction in my Chaos army. An example of this is I think that the Forgefiend/Mauler\fiend looks absolutley hideous, as a result I am planning on somehow incorporating the privateer press Kraken into my army, which in my opinion looks so mush better than the Forge/Maulerfiend as well as looking like it could fit into a nurgle army better.

I also think that the Throne of verblight (a battle engine from the Hordes range) could make an awesome daemon engine/creature of some kind. I was thinking about converting it into a living Plagur Tower of Nurgle.

I personally think that GW should not go with original 80's/90's designs unless they can be modernised to fit with the rest of the range and not look goofy as hell. The problem with the older desings is that they look as though they were designed to be bulky and toy-like because the techology for casting plastics, metal and resin was alot less advanced than what we have now. Also the general style of the whole sci-fi/fantasy genre has become darker and more serious because we have the techology to make more realistic looking miniatures, cgi in films/TV and better animation in games.

Am I the only one that thinks the Drones would look a lot better in a proper Nurgley colour scheme?
I'll only be getting the books for the time being, I've got enough stuff that needs painting.

Those Daemon models are nice enough. However from what I can see none of them are outstanding.

The Herald of Slaanesh is a bit odd, ok as a start for a conversion but rather ugly and blocky compared to more slender Daemonettes. She's also in finecast (shitecast) so she'll have skin with a texture like a scrunched up paper bag which will ruin the whole pretty look that Slaanesh models need. The Herald of Khorne looks ok but being in finecast with a sword is going to ruin him. Finecast always warps with anything longer than a model's finger and heating and re-posing a sword is often a lost cause. Replacing the sword will certainly be needed. Also finecast is too flexible and rubbery to be used on something that length. Even if it comes ok, once painted any pressure and it snaps or (more likely) ruins the paint job.

Some nice things as I said but I think what's really needed are plugging gaps in the existing armylist instead of loads of new additions. Flesh hounds and Fiends need plastic sets, the Hounds due to bad sculpting. Also bad design, they are crappy looking lizard-newt-monsters which as models that have nothing to do with the actual artwork, design or original and vastly superior version of Flesh hounds. The Fiends also suck. They appear clumsy looking and are very badly sculpted with terrible proportions with poor details. Both are also too expensive due to being finecast which reduces quality on any large model.

 MetalOxide wrote:

 BrassScorpion wrote:
I still think the GW sculpts for the most part simply blow away anything made by PP, I've never liked much of their work.

I respectfully disagree, PP have done some absolutley gorgeous minis,.

Wow, it's almost as if different people have different asthetic tastes...!

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/daemon-cover-artr-is-here-including.html#more

I like the cover.

Not a fan of the battleforce.

Now, we just need some rule leaks.

Agreed, quite liking the recent direction of cover art. Wouldn't be horrified if MW wrote it either, at least then the rules would likely balance out the horrific minis...

 Sasori wrote:
I like the cover.

Not a fan of the battleforce.

Now, we just need some rule leaks.

Yes, please. Let's all stop talking about the models, and start talking about the new rules

I'm a big fan of the cover, and I like the battleforce, but the cost of both is going to be a downer.

Here's the fantasy cover for those who care.

 lordofthegophers wrote:
Here's the fantasy cover for those who care.

His horns are bigger than his entire head! Good dam supporting that weight must be a pain.

Anyone know the stats for Flamers and Screamers in 40k? Curious how hard the Nerf Bat hit them.

 blood reaper wrote:
His horns are bigger than his entire head! Good dam supporting that weight must be a pain.

Good thing he isn't an actual being but a warp being so silly things like physics and weight are largely irrelevant.

Also, b*tch please:




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Anyone know the stats for Flamers and Screamers in 40k? Curious how hard the Nerf Bat hit them.

There haven't been any rules leaks yet. Be patient and keep checking back.

Yes, I much prefer the recent 40K covers to the Fantasy ones. There you go GW... if you're searching for some positivity in this thread... your 40K cover artist rocks.

40k-noob wrote:
Anyone know the stats for Flamers and Screamers in 40k? Curious how hard the Nerf Bat hit them.

Is it wrong that my first instinct is to post a picture of Ghostcrawler saying "TO THE GROUND?"

He looks like he's dancing. Very silly.

The 40K cover is ace though. That looks great.

Reminds me of Tim Curry in Legend.

OOps! ninja'd!

 blood reaper wrote:

 lordofthegophers wrote:
Here's the fantasy cover for those who care.

His horns are bigger than his entire head! Good dam supporting that weight must be a pain.

No wonder he's always angry and looking for a new skull to support the weight. The models are really helping me to stay away from GW.