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 Sasori wrote:
The Flies look MUCH better, with the new pictures. So does the Flamer Chariot, with, you know, Actual Flames.

I'm hoping new images on the Khorne Chariot help it as well!

I'm also hoping that new photos won't have the models trying out for the League of Shadows by blending perfectly into the backgrounds...

This Codex/Army Book: Daemons. Not Codex: 'I wanna be the new Batman too!'

Experiment 626 wrote:
As always with incomplete rules, I'm fairly certain we're missing a key element or five in regards to this new Daemonic Instability.

Agreed, people are just thinking of the bad that "could" happen. Let's take a look at a "good" scenario. A SC or wargear that lets you warp them out on purpose, you know so they don't get shot into oblivion. Granted this would mean they need to have a rule that allows them to assault out of ongoing reserves to be effective. haha. Good things can come, but I also understand your fears. GW doesn't put many "that's really cool" rules in their books.

 pretre wrote:
Cannon of Khorne or Skull Cannon is an ollllld item. Old enough that the last one was made by Armorcast, iirc.

Spoiler:

That's where my candlestick went!

All of a sudden the flaming chariot and the nurgle flies look 100x better

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 MDizzle wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Mat Ward writing the Daemons army book? Still wondering why there is a new Warhammer Fantasy edition next year?

The reason is Alessio Cavatore had his hand in it and they are not so happy that he is making warpath and kings of war in the same city GW is in. I bet they are also pissed about how well Bolt Action is doing.

Must be a terrible shock to some people that when you fire talent, it may well be hired by your business rivals. The mindset in the Ivory Tower was probably that he and Priestly et al would go to the nearest cliff and hurl themselves off in despair at being kicked out of GW, well, that or check out operator at Tescos.

Was that ever actually confirmed that he was fired?

I can tell you I have some information on fairly good authority that supports my previous statement... Both gentlemen did not leave of their own volition, or rather, if either of them did, they did so as the result of some 'gentle encouragement'.

Anyone who didn't like the stripped-down CSM, DA, and CD (and arguably Eldar) codicies probably shouldn't be crying a river for Alessio. It's been said that it's not a coincidence that we've seen more complexity added to codicies after he left.




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 Requiem wrote:
All of a sudden the flaming chariot and the nurgle flies look 100x better

It's almost as if a clearer pic can make a difference.

Daemonic instability: Roll d6 for any unit with daemonic instability on the beginning of the turn, on a roll of a 1 they are removed from the table with a token placed where they were positioned before they left, the unit is placed into ongoing reserves and must roll to deepstrike them back onto the table in subsequent turns(only being allowed to land 3" from their token)

So, it doesn't say that you can't move the token. That'd be pretty cool if that were the case that you could move the token. The daemons phase out, but are still moving in their same path, and they phase back in further along the path. And they can't get shot at while they're phased out.

 Phragonist wrote:
So, it doesn't say that you can't move the token. That'd be pretty cool if that were the case that you could move the token. The daemons phase out, but are still moving in their same path, and they phase back in further along the path. And they can't get shot at while they're phased out.

It also doesn't tell you not to swallow the token.

 Phragonist wrote:
Daemonic instability: Roll d6 for any unit with daemonic instability on the beginning of the turn, on a roll of a 1 they are removed from the table with a token placed where they were positioned before they left, the unit is placed into ongoing reserves and must roll to deepstrike them back onto the table in subsequent turns(only being allowed to land 3" from their token)

So, it doesn't say that you can't move the token. That'd be pretty cool if that were the case that you could move the token. The daemons phase out, but are still moving in their same path, and they phase back in further along the path. And they can't get shot at while they're phased out.

That I like. Oh, sorry Tau, I seem to be heading towards your gunline while you can't shoot at me. Hey, look, my Bloodthirster just phased in behind you!

 pretre wrote:

 Phragonist wrote:
So, it doesn't say that you can't move the token. That'd be pretty cool if that were the case that you could move the token. The daemons phase out, but are still moving in their same path, and they phase back in further along the path. And they can't get shot at while they're phased out.

It also doesn't tell you not to swallow the token.

That could be... messy.

gorgon wrote:

Anyone who didn't like the stripped-down CSM, DA, and CD (and arguably Eldar) codicies probably shouldn't be crying a river for Alessio. It's been said that it's not a coincidence that we've seen more complexity added to codicies after he left.

That comment has merit, but I can tell you I cried the entire fething amazon when I compared 6th ed 40k to 5th. Swings and roundabouts...

Making Tokens could be fun though

Yay for modeling opportunities!!!!

 pretre wrote:

 Phragonist wrote:
So, it doesn't say that you can't move the token. That'd be pretty cool if that were the case that you could move the token. The daemons phase out, but are still moving in their same path, and they phase back in further along the path. And they can't get shot at while they're phased out.

It also doesn't tell you not to swallow the token.

Lulz. petre is right, if it doesn't say to do it you can't. Permissive rule set and all. Does this mean if you scatter more than 3" away from the token you essentially mishap? If so this rule is really gruesome.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Making Tokens could be fun though

Yay for modeling opportunities!!!!

Modelling opportunities? Copyright Infringement! You can only use GW trademarked Chaos Daemons Daemon Instability Markers in your games if you want to play at GW stores!

@goat

You'd likely just stop at the edge similar to how drop pods treat terrain.

 Swara wrote:
IMO the flies look awesome. He even has a little bitey penis, how can you not love that!

The flies look much better here than the original picture (though the wings would be better in clear plastic), but the riders dont really seem to fit well.

Bossk_Hogg wrote:

 Swara wrote:
IMO the flies look awesome. He even has a little bitey penis, how can you not love that!

The flies look much better here than the original picture (though the wings would be better in clear plastic), but the riders dont really seem to fit well.

I was just thinking the same thing. I love the flies, but the PBs on their backs seriously look like they just took the standing figures and squished them on top.

I don't see whay they couldn't have just done a similar pose to what they did with the Bloodcrushers. Those guys look like they are actually riding their mounts.

Looks like mandatory reposing to me.

From BoK:

I can't read!

Hmm, they're Ld:7.

I really hope we're not losing Fearless.

So Jet pack Cavalry. Interesting.

Need MOAR!

Is that Plague Drone and Plaguebringer?
What;s a Plaguebringer?

Probably the Sergeant. Unless Cav get their own attacks now.

I really would like to speculate - and hope - that the base leadership is used for Instability rather than taking a 'special' check if Daemons lose combat and take that many unsavable wounds.

So, fail check and then roll D6...? I hope so. Better than previously.

The stat line looks interesting, and the special rules. im guessing it all depends what the blanket term for daemon of nurgle means.

The alternative is that the stuff with daemonic instability is cheaper point wise. Either way, it's random and I don't like it.

But I do like those flies. They'll make a fine addition to the nurgle/Zombie IG alliance.

Does that say Plaguebringer? Is that some variation on the drone? Can anyone read those stats?

Yeah; looks like this in order: 3 3 4 5 3 2 3 7 -

Plaguebringer is a Character, so likely a Champion/Sergeant; has 4 attacks rather than 3.

Points depends on what they decide to do; if they have this Instability, removal of EW, etc...I'd expect some rather lenient point assignments here.

 Dr. What wrote:
Is it just me, or are those flies sporting different heads than the other pictures?

That ought to cure the anteater complaints.

I was thinking they look more on the lines of a Nurglized shmoo..

http://www.lil-abner.com/shmoo.html

http://www.deniskitchen.com/docs/new_shmoofacts.html

Leadership 7 and a lack of fearless, plus instability? God dammit Phil Kelly.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 MDizzle wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Mat Ward writing the Daemons army book? Still wondering why there is a new Warhammer Fantasy edition next year?

The reason is Alessio Cavatore had his hand in it and they are not so happy that he is making warpath and kings of war in the same city GW is in. I bet they are also pissed about how well Bolt Action is doing.

Must be a terrible shock to some people that when you fire talent, it may well be hired by your business rivals. The mindset in the Ivory Tower was probably that he and Priestly et al would go to the nearest cliff and hurl themselves off in despair at being kicked out of GW, well, that or check out operator at Tescos.

I find it surprising how people bemoan loss of Cavatore, given how widely condemned the direction he took 40k to, was.

 blood reaper wrote:
Leadership 7 and a possible lack of fearless and instability?

My daemons might be hitting the shelves.

PANIC!

 pretre wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
Leadership 7 and a possible lack of fearless and instability?

My daemons might be hitting the shelves.

PANIC!

Isn't that what News and Rumors is all about?

 pretre wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
Leadership 7 and a possible lack of fearless and instability?

My daemons might be hitting the shelves.

PANIC!

Depends if some of the heralds are fearless or if you have the option of having a csm lord leading the group.