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 Leech wrote:
Those Daemonic Chariots with some conversion work, though not much could make useful WOC Warshrines of Tzeentch or Khorne. For those who don't like the current Warshine model or feel they need more variety an alternative etc.

Or alternatively, I could easily see taking the WOC Hellcannon and using it as the skullcannon. Get a couple of crushers pulling that thing and you've got yourself an awesome model.

THE ADVANCE ORDER IS UP!

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCatsLarge.jsp?catId=cat440160a&rootCatGameStyle=wh40k



These are brilliant!

Hopefully this will teach all of you nay-sayers not to judge a mini based on thumb-nail sized blurry pictures.

Nice to see some new options. New rules hopefully for the better.

THEY ARE UP! And the look fantastic, GW website has some cracking pictures. On an off-shoot note my site is doing free shipping over £40 all pre-orders are here http://www.greendragongames.co.uk/deals/pre-orders.html

I'm pleasantly surprised at the prices actually, thought worse. Getting myself one of those chariots for the option of a herald on disc AND a chariot in the same kit, looks good! Also as a Hobbit fan, I think Thror looked amazing in White Dwarf this month.

Plague bees look awesome!

4 different Limited Editions.. one for each god!

I guess it was inevitable.

 MetalOxide wrote:

Hopefully this will teach all of you nay-sayers not to judge a mini based on thumb-nail sized blurry pictures.

I stand by my previous assessment of the Khorne kart:

Seriously, that Tzeentch herald on burning chariot is AWESOME. One of the best models I've seen in a while. Hope he's worth taking rules-wise.

Love the one-handed Hadoken

The bigger, better GW pictures do make this stuff look nicer, but more in the sense that there seems to be some nice parts, and that some of the stuff could make for great conversions. I still think that as a whole, on their own merits, these models are pretty lack-lustre...

-C6

I'm going to have to agree on the awesome that is the tzeentch chariot kit, finally they do something like adding a base in for the herald so that you have another option fully covered if you build it as the big bad flamer option. Just a shame they didn't do the same for the skull cannon seeing as that clearly also has another herald in it, maybe they just want to make sure they can sell the finecast one.

 Ignatius-Grulgor wrote:
I'm going to have to agree on the awesome that is the tzeentch chariot kit, finally they do something like adding a base in for the herald so that you have another option fully covered if you build it as the big bad flamer option. Just a shame they didn't do the same for the skull cannon seeing as that clearly also has another herald in it, maybe they just want to make sure they can sell the finecast one.

I think you may be right, however the Khorne herald's arm is holding on to the chariot, and his legs are spread pretty wide as he's balancing on top of the blood throne. But hey, who doesn't have a spare base lying around? With a little conversion work he'd make a fine herald on foot.

Khorne chariot is still crap, though ideas flowed through my head on how to make it look better. The wheels are what ruins it for me.

Tzeentch chariot looks good with the exception of the giant flamer. Even with the traditional flames, the flamer looks weak. Those giant 2D flames are horrible. Agree that the plastic herald on with the kit is probably the strongest item in the release.

Now with bigger pictures...looks nice, better than WoC release. I like sicko flies. Tzeentch chariot too, I'm not big fan of "flames" but it can be left out. Khorne throne is bit weird but OK. All these kits seem to have plenty of options and room for modification.

Don't like heralds, except maybe Khorne one. Nurgle Herald seems just too...messy. Slaanesh Herald has too thick arms/claws. Why is just one of the heralds plastic and other two Finecast? Overpriced limited edition books are silly, but different covers are nice touch. Also they bothered to paint different studio models for both 40k and FB.

Limited Edition stuff seems pointless to me, but I do love the Slaanesh Herald, could be awesome if painted just right. I agree that the Nurgle Herald seems a little too messy, looks more like a showcase piece than a practical playing model.

Am I the only one shocked by the prices? I mean they actually seem to be...appropriate. I would have thought the nurgle flyers would have gone the way of $75+ easily. They look awesome, and I can't wait to get them painted up!

Lets see. Now that there's a bigger picture of the flies let me see if I changed my mind.

Silly riders oddly positioned on top: X
Silly looking anteater style face: 1/2X (The other option doesn't look bad)
Fanged genitalia: X
Awkward pose revolving around the bloated abdomen:X

Ok. So the faces got better. I'm still not seeing what people like about this.

The Kelp Flamer looks better with a flame paint job, but just looks odd that it has a straight wall of fire infront of it. I'm actually not sure if I like the model or not.

Wow! The new models looks really good. I wonder how much would it cost to make a 1500pts 40k army? Questions to deamon players, do you only use 1 type to daemon force or a mix? GW is selling 4 sets of battleforce, one for each god. Are they a good starting point for a new player at CAD183 compared to buying them seperatly? They seem to be direct GW only so I know I can't get it online for a discount. Would 1 be enough to start a force or I need like at least 2?

why does it say sold out on the picture for the battle magic cards? it still says add to cart on the options. they just started. are they out of stock already?

The biggest issue for me are the battleforces for each faction, roughly £90

I still think the models look a might silly, better than the rumour pics, but still not very good. The heralds aren't bad though.

As for the prices, they do seem quite a bit more reasonable than I was expecting, save for the finecast, but then that's the norm really. They're not any more overpriced than most finecast.

Interesting to see the Daemons getting any actual psychic powers, should make game balance a lot more straightforwards, clear up any confusion, and abuse, around current Daemon powers.

I'm kind of disappointed there's no new casts though; GW should spend some time replacing old casts with each release, makes me nervous for more upgrade-centric armies in the future whose boxes include virtually none of their upgrades.

Now, as the Khorne chariot and cannon still look ridiculous - here's an idea... a miniature brass scorpion. Either with a throne rider mounted on top or the cannon as the tail sting?

Now, how would you construct a mini brass scorpion? Imperial Guard Sentinel legs?

Now they look a lot better, i'd actually say a average release rather than an awful one. Even the snorkel flie heads look better in the alternate colour scheme.


Honestly, do GW PURPOSELY use the worst pictures in WD?

 Aipoch wrote:
Am I the only one shocked by the prices? I mean they actually seem to be...appropriate. I would have thought the nurgle flyers would have gone the way of $75+ easily. They look awesome, and I can't wait to get them painted up!

Those Drones aren't really that big, same cost & size as Dragon Ogres from recent WoC release, just bit more parts. Ditto for Chariots, this release doesn't have really large, expensive model like Warshrine or Throgg.

Murdock129 wrote:
The biggest issue for me are the battleforces for each faction, roughly £90

Those arent battleforces, they are bundles.

Battleforces offer a slight discount compared to buying each peice on its own, and you can see the new deamons battleforce in the first post of this thread under "WFB: Chaos Daemons Battalion/Battleforce $115.00". It is not mono-god.

The bundles are mono-god, but are just a collection of each gods stuff at no discount. The battleforce is not on the GW site yet.

 Kroothawk wrote:


WFB: Chaos Daemons Battalion/Battleforce $115.00

interestingly enough the pictures for the two systems are different. The flies look a lok better in the 40k pics than the WFB ones.


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interestingly enough the pictures for the two systems are different. The flies look a lok better in the 40k pics than the WFB ones.

 MajorStoffer wrote:
I still think the models look a might silly, better than the rumour pics, but still not very good. The heralds aren't bad though.

As for the prices, they do seem quite a bit more reasonable than I was expecting, save for the finecast, but then that's the norm really. They're not any more overpriced than most finecast.

I thought so too, those dual kits could easily have gone for 50$ or more.

Edit for rudeness. MT11

Wow, I just cant believe that, within a month or so, we already got another release.

Mmm I placed my order for the cards for now but it say it will be shipped so it will be at my house around the release day. Are they not released yet then if there up on the site?

Please do not quote rule breaking, use the mod-alert button instead, thank you! MT11

This is an average release, the pictures have made the models look better admittedly. The characters are still angular and blocky althought that may be down to a poor paintjob. Some of the stuff has definitely been scultped nicely but overall its still al little lackluster ( i still think the Flame chariot think is lousy, the Slaaneshi herald is the complete opposite of alluring, and the flies design i think is still poorly considered and makes them look like bagpipes)

My opinion of the models has changed a little bit due to the new pictures. My opinion of you has not.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wow, I just cant believe that, within a month or so, we already got another release.

And because its Daemons it counts for a realease for both systems.. clever GW.....