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Since I sold my Empire after a good 5 years with them, I have been looking around for another army to pick up to play fantasy again and to be frank, nothing really seemed to catch my eye unit a friend suggested I look at the Warriors of Chaos codex since they have a lot of cool units. Giving it a shot, I was pleasantly surprised by what the Codex had to offer, and from talking and looking at other Chaos Warrior players army lists at my store, one thing always stood out to me about nearly all of there army lists. Why no Marauders? The norm seems to be running a couple blocks of 18x-30x Chaos Warriors with a Mark (depending on the army theme), supported by some War-Alters and maybe a Hellcannon or two along with some characters, with the only army I have seen running any form of Marauders was one guy who had Wulfrick in a horde of them w/Flails, Shields, and the Mark of Nurgle, which he used to great effect when using his special rule to outflank opponents. Now granted that Warriors of Chaos are a more appealing option, I have always liked the idea of running a pure army of Marauders as a Viking-Theme list, which not only I think can be very effective but a list that is very fluffy as well. Anyways, just want your guy's thoughts on this idea and advice from Veteran Chaos players on what is the best way to run Marauders and any other tactical advice would be appreciated.
   
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I'm no veteran WoC player so take what I say with a grain of salt.

I think an all Marauder army would be cool. In fact I'm hoping with the next iteration of the army book they have more to offer by ways of Marauders... like special/rare marauder units or Marauder heroes/lords (other than Wulfrik... maybe a generic Marauder lord/hero).
   
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Honestly, your meta is a bit strange, marauders are definitely as strong a choice as Warriors, especially given their point cost and weapon options. I commonly run into marauder hordes with flails and Mark of Khorne, they are terrifying to deal with.

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 curran12 wrote:
Honestly, your meta is a bit strange, marauders are definitely as strong a choice as Warriors, especially given their point cost and weapon options. I commonly run into marauder hordes with flails and Mark of Khorne, they are terrifying to deal with.


I completely agree. Marauders are bent. I've fought that list. And I have fought the 3+ ward save knights. I would say the marauder list was worse by far. Especially as I war running my executioners at the time...

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Thats what I thought, however I guess most of the Chaos players at my store think differently but its all good. At the moment, Im already planning on running 1x Horde of 50x Marauders w/The Mark of Nurgle, Shields and Flails with Wulfrick, to start, and from there I am looking more units of Marauders, Marauder Cavalry, and possibly a War-Alter or two to give my units buffs.
   
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 Rommel44 wrote:
Thats what I thought, however I guess most of the Chaos players at my store think differently but its all good. At the moment, Im already planning on running 1x Horde of 50x Marauders w/The Mark of Nurgle, Shields and Flails with Wulfrick, to start, and from there I am looking more units of Marauders, Marauder Cavalry, and possibly a War-Alter or two to give my units buffs.


Honestly, I'd go with Khorne for your mark. You want to maximize the damage output of your flails. And if I'm not mistaken, aren't flails 2-handed? If that's the case, you are only going to be getting the benefits of them against shooting, which might not justify the cost.

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 Rommel44 wrote:
Thats what I thought, however I guess most of the Chaos players at my store think differently but its all good.


I don't think it's too much to do with one being better than the other. Both units are really good. I think it mainly comes down to two things: The looks of the models (I just love the look of Chaos Warriors, not that Marauders look bad or anything) and price/painting time. It is a lot quicker + cheaper to build a Chaos Warrior regiment than a similar points valued Marauder regiment. Cool looks + small model count are the two reasons I chose Chaos Warriors to begin with.

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The question for me would be what else you plan to have in the list. The special and rare sections of the book offers some good monster/creature choices.

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 curran12 wrote:
 Rommel44 wrote:
Thats what I thought, however I guess most of the Chaos players at my store think differently but its all good. At the moment, Im already planning on running 1x Horde of 50x Marauders w/The Mark of Nurgle, Shields and Flails with Wulfrick, to start, and from there I am looking more units of Marauders, Marauder Cavalry, and possibly a War-Alter or two to give my units buffs.


Honestly, I'd go with Khorne for your mark. You want to maximize the damage output of your flails. And if I'm not mistaken, aren't flails 2-handed? If that's the case, you are only going to be getting the benefits of them against shooting, which might not justify the cost.


Yes they are two-handed, just checked that out myself so I can see why Shields would be a waste of points in that reguard. However, for Wulfricks unit, would a horde of 50x be the way to go or a smaller unit of 35x in a 7x5 formation be better as a smaller footprint would allow me to outflank my opponents a lot easier? Also, I have decided to run a large unit of Marauder Cavalry and the plan is to give them the Mark of Nurgle, with my BSB on a Juggernaut being in the unit with the Banner of Rage to give them Frenzy, and would Flails be a good choice for them or should I go with Spears and shields?
   
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x2 units of x50 marauders with flails in horde formation Mark of Khorne
x2 units of 50 with HW, lt armour and shield in column for tarpits Mark of Tzeentch
x2 hell cannons
x1 shadows mage level 4 (general) MINDRAZOR!!!
BSB
Wulfrik
x1 100 marauders (come on the rear with wulfrik) with flails 20 wide to hit warmachine, overrun to next one, overrun etc, etc
Any points left get some marauder cav.

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 Waaagh_Gonads wrote:
x2 units of x50 marauders with flails in horde formation Mark of Khorne
x2 units of 50 with HW, lt armour and shield in column for tarpits Mark of Tzeentch
x2 hell cannons
x1 shadows mage level 4 (general) MINDRAZOR!!!
BSB
Wulfrik
x1 100 marauders (come on the rear with wulfrik) with flails 20 wide to hit warmachine, overrun to next one, overrun etc, etc
Any points left get some marauder cav.


Sounds pretty solid, but for the unit with that goes with Wulfrick, do you give them a mark or just run them standard?
   
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As for theme i run a pure marauder theme list.

Marauders, chaos lord/sorcerer/bsb., Maurauder horsemen and i run chaos ogres.

But now thinking about it i would rather have run the trolls for a more beowulf theme...

also hellcannons could work too.

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