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This list brings so much hope.

By the way if we get jetbikes and keep them from the ADMech. Eduard Khil upgrade cahracter for ravenwing he grants you the right to play the trolololo song at anytime you want during the game as a many times as you want.

With all the different rumoured goodies, it's going to be hard to stick to a pure deathwing army. Not that this is bad.

I'm hoping you are right. I love my DW, but I'd love to field other stuff ad well.

 pretre wrote:

Minx wrote:
SM marked some of his comments as speculation (unlike tDG).

The problem is that when you post rumors, whether you mark it as speculation or not, you're still putting it out there and saying 'This is what's coming'.

No, if you are speculating as a rumour monger and marking it clearly you are obviously not saying "This is what's coming". Summaries and quotes of said non-rumours sometimes do not contain the same caveat though.

Well we got rules for jetbikes in the BGB. Might as well use them.

And FW just released some lovely jetbikes

Minx wrote:
No, if you are speculating as a rumour monger and marking it clearly you are obviously not saying "This is what's coming". Summaries and quotes of said non-rumours sometimes do not contain the same caveat though.

And that's the problem. Like it or not, once you start spouting off rumors people listen to what you have to say. You don't get the luxury of just spouting off because someone's just going to quote you without the caveat and suddenly people are believing that's the next new thing.

With great rumor power comes great rumor responsibility.

If the jetbike thing is a 1, then I hope GW makes their own jetbikes that are closer in form to Sammael's than those flying penises that FW made. Honestly whoever designed those travesties should be pistol whipped.

 MightyGodzilla wrote:
If the jetbike thing is a 1, then I hope GW makes their own jetbikes that are closer in form to Sammael's than those flying penises that FW made. Honestly whoever designed those travesties should be pistol whipped.

I like them way more than GW attempts at designing imperial jetbikes.
Btw phallic shapes are not very rare, e.g. skyscrapers and rockets, but there's no need to call all of them penises. Is that a not very well hidden fetish of yours?

 pretre wrote:
[Rumors and junk

Added to the OP. I figure if anyone's going to get jetbikes it's going to be Dark Angels. It would be funny for Space Marines to end up out-Eldar-ing the Eldar though! Imperial jetbikes would at least be a better selling kit than recut bikers, which Space Marines frankly need.

Just thought I would post this as it is semi-related. But it would seem the Warriors of Chaos rumours from Harry and Hastings are that it wont be an army book release but an update wave ala Daemons. Will still probably take up the whole month, of course. But as WD updates are a new thing we don't really know how GW handles them alongside major releases yet. But either way, WoC will apparently not be a full army release, so take from that what you will.

Minx wrote:
...Btw phallic shapes are not very rare, e.g. skyscrapers and rockets, but there's no need to call all of them penises. Is that a not very well hidden fetish of yours?

I think it's cute how you're all prudish.

 Brother SRM wrote:
Added to the OP. I figure if anyone's going to get jetbikes it's going to be Dark Angels. It would be funny for Space Marines to end up out-Eldar-ing the Eldar though! Imperial jetbikes would at least be a better selling kit than recut bikers, which Space Marines frankly need.

I think DA only jetbikes would be a pretty good feature for the codex that could seperate our DAs from vanilla marines, SWs, BAs, or GKs. I don't know how much I would use them but I like the idea of the first legion wielding some old tech. I also don't think it would out eldar the eldar in anything but sales as the eldar and dark eldar have extended rules for their jetbikes which are pretty damn cool in their own right. Wishing it were the end of November truth be told.

MightyGodzilla wrote:I think it's cute how you're all prudish.

I'd rather say it's immature and not funny and nothing to do with being prudish.

Ronin_eX wrote:Just thought I would post this as it is semi-related. But it would seem the Warriors of Chaos rumours from Harry and Hastings are that it wont be an army book release but an update wave ala Daemons. Will still probably take up the whole month, of course. But as WD updates are a new thing we don't really know how GW handles them alongside major releases yet. But either way, WoC will apparently not be a full army release, so take from that what you will.

Here's hoping the DA get a proper 'dex with their first wave. Then again there was a rumour that GW wants to push out the majority of their models in prior waves before the codex/army book gets released.

 MightyGodzilla wrote:
If the jetbike thing is a 1, then I hope GW makes their own jetbikes that are closer in form to Sammael's than those flying penises that FW made. Honestly whoever designed those travesties should be pistol whipped.

I don't know, just think how funny it would be to defeat your opponents with an army of SM's straddling steel "penis" bikes. I for one would do this just for that particular satisfaction. lol!
No Homo.

 pretre wrote:

Minx wrote:
No, if you are speculating as a rumour monger and marking it clearly you are obviously not saying "This is what's coming". Summaries and quotes of said non-rumours sometimes do not contain the same caveat though.

And that's the problem. Like it or not, once you start spouting off rumors people listen to what you have to say. You don't get the luxury of just spouting off because someone's just going to quote you without the caveat and suddenly people are believing that's the next new thing.

With great rumor power comes great rumor responsibility.

Doesn't mean that people are not responsible for making correct quotes.
Doesn't mean that people are not responsible for having obviously false attitudes towards rumours and rumour posters.
Doesn't mean that rumour posters are forbidden to post an opinion or speculation, just because there might be one other poster in the world misinterpreting him.
Sometimes posters have to adapt to the world, not the world to each poster.

According to Harry over on Warseer (summed up here by Kroothawk) November will be the Warriors of Chaos release. So yeah, color me surprised that Stickmonkey's prediction for November was wrong

Well, if I recall correctly, there were VC in January and then Empire in April, otherwise it has been a rather dry year for WHFB, correct? I'm not against giving those players a little love. Not that I'm about to pick up that game ever again... but the minis are useful for 40K, sometimes.

Played an awesome game this weekend with a mainly deathwing army. I rolled a lot of 1s, but it was so much fun. The only downside is having a whole turn of shooting come your way while you can't really do anything. Of my 26 terminators, I had 7 left standing, not enough to secure more objectives.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Minx wrote:
No, if you are speculating as a rumour monger and marking it clearly you are obviously not saying "This is what's coming". Summaries and quotes of said non-rumours sometimes do not contain the same caveat though.

And that's the problem. Like it or not, once you start spouting off rumors people listen to what you have to say. You don't get the luxury of just spouting off because someone's just going to quote you without the caveat and suddenly people are believing that's the next new thing.

With great rumor power comes great rumor responsibility.

Doesn't mean that people are not responsible for making correct quotes.
Doesn't mean that people are not responsible for having obviously false attitudes towards rumours and rumour posters.
Doesn't mean that rumour posters are forbidden to post an opinion or speculation, just because there might be one other poster in the world misinterpreting him.
Sometimes posters have to adapt to the world, not the world to each poster.

Sure, sure. I don't disagree that there is some responsibility for the reader/re-poster.

 Brother SRM wrote:
According to Harry over on Warseer (summed up here by Kroothawk) November will be the Warriors of Chaos release. So yeah, color me surprised that Stickmonkey's prediction for November was wrong

RoninEx said up this thread a bit in regards to Warriors of Chaos.

Just thought I would post this as it is semi-related. But it would seem the Warriors of Chaos rumours from Harry and Hastings are that it wont be an army book release but an update wave ala Daemons.

I don't really follow that thread as they're not my thing, but if it's true it wouldn't mess up a DA release, I kind of half thought their release would be towards the end of November beginning of December anyways from what I read here. White Dwarf is trying really hard to avoid sucking so I could see both a DA spoiler and a WoC rules update in next month's edition.

 Brother SRM wrote:
According to Harry over on Warseer (summed up here by Kroothawk) November will be the Warriors of Chaos release. So yeah, color me surprised that Stickmonkey's prediction for November was wrong

Stickmonkey said it's going to be a December release (pre-order and/or WD pictures in November). So all is well, if the pesky Hobbits don't meddle with things.

I'd be sincerely surprised if The Hobbit wasn't the be all-end all for December, since that's when the actual movie comes out and demand will be highest.

Warriors of Chaos will probably take up the vast majority of their update issue, like Daemons did.

 MightyGodzilla wrote:
If the jetbike thing is a 1, then I hope GW makes their own jetbikes that are closer in form to Sammael's than those flying penises that FW made. Honestly whoever designed those travesties should be pistol whipped.

This is likely, as those jetbike designs are old pre-Heresy stuff. Jetbike tech is more or less a lost art in the Imperium, but SM Forges are still bound to make more modern versions.

Anyway I noticed the rumor about no flyer, I assumed they'd just use Stormtalons...

Well there is a rumour of the ravenclaw, and its mates the griffindor, hufflepuff and slytherin. A walker, heavy tank and fast vehicle, respectively.

No pretre, do NOT add me to the rumour-mongers.

Since I saw that rumour about jetbikes here a few days ago, I have been chopping up a bike and a BFG cruiser and cobbling them together. A bit long, but not that ugly.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Well there is a rumour of the ravenclaw, and its mates the griffindor, hufflepuff and slytherin. A walker, heavy tank and fast vehicle, respectively.

No pretre, do NOT add me to the rumour-mongers.

Since I saw that rumour about jetbikes here a few days ago, I have been chopping up a bike and a BFG cruiser and cobbling them together. A bit long, but not that ugly.

I'd like to see that WIP. Post it man!

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Well there is a rumour of the ravenclaw, and its mates the griffindor, hufflepuff and slytherin. A walker, heavy tank and fast vehicle, respectively.

No pretre, do NOT add me to the rumour-mongers.

Since I saw that rumour about jetbikes here a few days ago, I have been chopping up a bike and a BFG cruiser and cobbling them together. A bit long, but not that ugly.

Added! Lol.

Do not field Dumbledore against a Slytherin. Snape missiles pretty much take you out immediately.

So keep in mind that the BFG cruiser has been in my collection for a while. I have been scouring the net for more, but haven't been able to find any NIB.

I'm of two minds about it: one the one hand, I like the no-nonsense look of it right now, but it on the other hand, it doesn't scream ravenwing.

I have a slew of assault cannons, I could add some, too.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
So keep in mind that the BFG cruiser has been in my collection for a while. I have been scouring the net for more, but haven't been able to find any NIB.

...that looks like the 'vanilla' imperial cruiser kit - which is still available, new, from GW itself.

Yes, at their usual cutthroat prices. I'd actually settle for built ones, tbh, but even those go for quite a price on eBay.

So the AA dread? Isn't that just a Mortis dread?

Well, it might be, or it might be limited by the application of the skyfire rule. If it requires 6s to hit ground units... it might not make it into my list. I would rather have a regular mortis dread, and flak missile equipped devastators.