Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - Completed! - 3 seasons fully funded!

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**Groundh0g**

I ended up getting the acrylic board and markers, and the dice as "extras" beyond my normal Striker level... also picked up 4 season 2/3 teams.

**Ghrik**

So I met the Mantic-crew or better Ronny Renton the CEO at the Spiel 2012 in Essen (Germany) and had a very nice chat with him (thanks for the dice

).

I had a look at the acrylic board (very nice) and the painted teams. Now I'm even more happy, that I backed this project!

1) They are working hard to ship the game beginning of December so hopefully we all get it until Chrismas.
2) in the Euro-countries, the game will cost about 60€ (I forgot if he said 59 or 69€)
3) a single team will cost around 15€ (did not ask how many figures are in the box)

Concerning the feedback of us about the design of the MVPS (I asked about Barricade) they are reading the comments.
If the want to change something they think about showing some sketches before the final choice (well I hope they don't change Barricade, but he said there were -as always- people who like him as he is, and people wo don't like him in this form).

Anf for future KS project, they think about telling it a few months in advance so we could prepare our wallets (and our loving wives/girlfriends/etc...)

-Cheers
Ghrik
(yay, my first news-post, hopefully rather accurate

)

**RiTides**

Thanks for the first-hand info, Ghrik!

**Buzzsaw**

So, need to finish up my pledge, and not finding the information I need to do it:

-What's the difference between the team deals ($20/25 BOGO), and the teams you get in the competition upgrade ($85 for 4 teams S2/3)?

--Do either of the above include keepers, or are they always separate?

--BOGO teams are 10 models (at Striker!), Completionist 14; anyone have any idea what the extra 4 models are?

I have been looking, and I'm thinking that a lot of these answers may simply not be known or not decided (it seems the number of Guards/Strikers/Jacks haven't been determined for S2/3 teams, so no one knows how many sculpts the teams have).

**Dysartes**

Buzzsaw wrote:
A - What's the difference between the team deals ($20/25 BOGO), and the teams you get in the competition upgrade ($85 for 4 teams S2/3)?

B - Do either of the above include keepers, or are they always separate?

C - BOGO teams are 10 models (at Striker!), Completionist 14; anyone have any idea what the extra 4 models are?

A - The team deals are $20 for one team, or $25 as a BOGOF, and are for 8 models a time. The Completionist deals give 14 models in the deal per team, but there are already 2 models for each team included in Striker, so you end up at 16. The 16 should give you all the figures to max out any basic player type in your team.

B - Keepers are always separate.

C - See A.

**Buzzsaw**

Dysartes wrote:
Buzzsaw wrote:
A - What's the difference between the team deals ($20/25 BOGO), and the teams you get in the competition upgrade ($85 for 4 teams S2/3)?

B - Do either of the above include keepers, or are they always separate?

C - BOGO teams are 10 models (at Striker!), Completionist 14; anyone have any idea what the extra 4 models are?

A - The team deals are $20 for one team, or $25 as a BOGOF, and are for 8 models a time. The Completionist deals give 14 models in the deal per team, but there are already 2 models for each team included in Striker, so you end up at 16. The 16 should give you all the figures to max out any basic player type in your team.

B - Keepers are always separate.

C - See A.

Ah, sorry, I should have been more specific about (A): I know there is a difference in total number of figures, but does anyone know the composition? That is, you get an extra 4 figures in the Completionist deal, but as far as I can tell, it looks like they will be duplicates of sculpts that you will be getting anyway in the team.

I'm trying to figure out if there are any alternate sculpts that you will only get with the completionist package.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

There are no sculpts that are completionist only so there should be no need to worry there

and for the season 2/3 figures I'd imagine all the basic (8 figure) teams will come with at least one of each sculpt done

For the season 1 teams there were originally going to be 3 sculpts in each set. These were cast (or were being cast) BEFORE the KS finished so all the stuff for december delivery will be these figures

Going completionist seems the best way to ensure you get the newer sculpts from these 4 teams

(depending on how many of the original sculpts have been cast buying these teams from retail might initially get ony the frist 3 sculpts if you see what I mean)

**Buzzsaw**

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

It's looking like I'm going to go BOGO for Female Corp/Zz'orr, Asterians/Nameless. Then Keepers for the three seasons. That comes to ($25+$25+$15+$8+$15) $88, I'm iffy on the prones, but that would be another $8, so a total of $96.

That compares to $85 for the Completionist package* (which includes prone figures) and $38 for keepers, so $123.

Hmmm... so, are 16 figures worth $27? That's a pretty darned aggressive price point for them... Dangit, I may have just reasoned myself into paying more money! Or I could take the difference and turn it into cheerleaders...

Decisions, decisions...

*Just to make sure people know, you can mix and match teams in the Completionist bundles.

**DaveC**

Buzzsaw wrote:

*Just to make sure people know, you can mix and match teams in the Completionist bundles.

Fairly sure the Completionist bundles are set deals you get exactly what's listed in the contents no options and you can't mix and match between Season 2 and 3 teams with Completionist that's what the BOGOF offer is for.

**Buzzsaw**

That had been my thought too, but in the comments on Update #90, there is the following exchange;

Liam Hall on October 8

Previously before the season 3 completionist came out there was the option to add $5 and have S3 teams in the S2 completionist add-on as a mix and match.

Is that still the case?

Creator Mantic Games on October 9

Blaine is included too

@ Liam Hall - Yes. On the survey just select either the Season 2 bundle or the Season 3 bundle and just write in the comments that you want to mix and match (and the list which teams you want). We'll sort that out manually on our side.

@ Jan - correct, you will need to add those on if you want them.

@ Brage - the alternate sculpts will not be ready until next year so the team boxes will ship with the figures we have now.

@ Rashktak - shipping should be included as part of your pledge amount. It doesn't matter if you've not included it, once we've got the survey back we'll send over a paypal invoice for the shipping.

@ Frank - The upgrade packs also include the Buy One Get One Free teams.

RE: Barricade - we're unlikely to see an amended Barricade sketch before the survey is finished. We've Roberto making the final amendments and sketches to the Season 2 teams which we need to get out to tooling ASAP.

@ Jon - The thing is we don't know what the alternately posed miniatures are yet either so we're unable to give you a detailed breakdown, particularly on Season 2 and season 3 teams which haven't even been playtested yet. We've an idea of what the team composition will be like, but it's dictated by the results of playtests which in turn will dictate the sculpts. The current thinking will be that the female Corporation team for instance can take only one Guard, which would suggest that we wouldn't do an alternate guard sculpt. however, if this doesn't work in playtesting, then we need to do a second. Loosely, where possible, either player position will have alternatively posed miniatures. There aren't any alternate bitz and models are sprueless. The alts in the concept art are for us as a design choice - they are "this bit could look like this or like this, or even like this."

So, going by what they said, you can mix and match (but you have to let them know).

Incidentally, in looking this up I realized that the prone markers in Striker! are for both Season 1 and Season 2... something I had glossed over.

There is a lot of information in the comments of that update, actually...

**DaveC**

Thanks Buzzsaw would have never found that hidden in the comments.

**Black Nexus**

yeah, looks like you can mix and match teams in the completists deal. everyone get their survey in? I want my free rules...

anyway saw this in TGN, looks like they're holding a dreadball competition where you can win one of everything:

http://www.manticgames.com/Competitions.html

**nkelsch**

Bring on the preview sculpts!

**Commander Cain**

Dude you aren't supposed to tell everyone. Now all dakka knows!

**sparkywtf**

how am I supposed to win the free set now that everyone knows!!!

**Black Nexus**

ah lol sorry!

veer-myn guard just hit facebook

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151221790032319&set=a.387258332318.165358.104345532318&type=1&theater

**Pacific**

The pic for those without FB access:

**scarletsquig**

First Veer-myn sculpt (out of both Dreadball and Warpath) that I actually like.

More sci-fi rats please, less steampunk fantasy rats.

Seriously, that Veer-myn guard is just so plain so much better-designed and sculpted than the current warpath models:

...and I *really* hope that Warpath 2.0 remakes the models in that cleaner sci-fi style, rather than continuing to entrench the range into a fantasy/ steampunk style.

**judgedoug**

oh, that's badass.

**nkelsch**

Even with space diaper the guard is badass. That is a space rat!

**RiTides**

Yeah, those are surprisingly sweet!

**Commander Cain**

I like it a lot! Might have to gs a couple of armour plates for the top part of the leg but apart from that it is a really good sculpt.

**frozenwastes**

scarletsquig wrote:First Veer-myn sculpt (out of both Dreadball and Warpath) that I actually like.

More sci-fi rats please, less steampunk fantasy rats.

Seriously, that Veer-myn guard is just so plain so much better-designed and sculpted than the current warpath models:

I disagree. I think both are a matter of paint job. Take that DB guard and paint up in yellow with a super dark black shading in the recesses and he'll look the same as the WP ones.

**nkelsch**

Two MVPs are on the blog now... Both looking good! They should smash all the ver-myn warpath molds with a hammer and basically make hand-swap upgrade kits for the dreadball figs.

**DaveC**

So the Veer Myn Guards and MVP are on larger circular bases I wondered how they'd fit on the small base alright had I known that I wouldn't have bought as many clear Hex Bases oh well plenty of spares then.

**Commander Cain**

Lets have some piccys shall we?

Reek Rolat

Slippery Joe

Both look pretty cool, lots of character which I like!

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

I do like Slippery Joe

Although I feel he needs a Matinee Villain Top Hat too

(which I will have to find for him)

**RiTides**

Not a huge fan of Slippery Joe, but those rats- man! They were able to get surprisingly dynamic poses. I really like them, and I did not expect to.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

I will like the rats when I seem them without paint

I'm not a fan of any of Mantic's Veermyn painting, but have liked the other figures when I've actually got them

At the moment it looks like they have badly made wigs attatched to their arms and legs

**Groundh0g**

I'm painting those rats up in Green Bay Packers colours.