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This is a shooty army I put together for CSM,

Chaos Sorccerer + MoS + LoS + Terminator Armor + Melta Bomb
Total = 145

6 Noise Marines + 6 Sonic Blaster
Total = 150

6 Noise Marines + 6 Sonic Blaster
Total = 150

6 Noise Marines + 6 Sonic Blaster
Total = 150

2 Obliterators
Total = 150

2 Obliterators
Total = 150

Predator + Autocannon + Heavy Bolter
Total = 100

Total = 995

I was wondering a few things, first do I gave enough anti-tank. I was having problems with my previous lists towards killing grey knights dreadnoughts with my obliterators. Next, I was wondering if I picked a good enough HQ I was just trying to get the cheapest HQ available but, it seems like a waste of 90 points as he will do largely nothing except absorb wounds. I am also wondering what other CSM options are good for shooting.

If you're doing a shooty list, then the CL does absolutely nothing for you.

Perhaps waiting a a few weeks for the new dex?

However, a Chaos Sorcerer with the Lash would probably be a lot more helpful.

Perhaps switch the defiler for an autocanon toting predator?

Thanks for the suggestion, I will make that change.

Yeah, the Chaos Lord really does nothing. You'd be better off with a Daemon Prince with Wings, MoS, and Lash. At least it can pop vehicles, Vector Strike, and raise hell in CC.

Noise Marines with Blasters are certainly good "sit back and shoot" units with their 24" Assault2/Heavy3 option, but I don't know about 3 Squads of them. I think I would run at least 1 Squad with Plasmas, be that a Squad of 10 vanilla CSM (to get 2 Plasmas), or a Squad of 5-7 Plague Marines with 2 Plasmas.

Oblits provide plenty of Anti-Tank, and the Battle Cannon (Ordnance roll 2 dice, take the highest) on the Defiler does a decent job as well. I would leave the Autocannon on instead of another CCW. A TL-Lascannon upgrade is also nice, but I don't see where you would find the 20 points.

As always, just my 2¢

The reason I did not put a Daemon Prince is because it always does nothings it gets shot to pieces before it enters CC, and when it does it get killed by GK. Thanks for the advice on the Chaos Lord, I will change it out for a Sorcerer as I can hide it within Noise Marines.

Daemon Princes are far harder to kill in 6th edition: Monstrous Creatures can now gain cover from Area Terrain (no more need for 50% obscurement). If you put wings on a Daemon Prince and put him in Swooping mode, he can fly 12" - 24" across the table and can only be hit with 6's or weapons with the Skyfire USR. He can also run 2d6" in the shooting phase, or he could use Lash of Submission in the shooting phase, even while in Swooping Mode. You can change from Swooping to Gliding at the start of any movement phase. If he flew far enough or lashed close enough in the first turn, he should easily be able to get into Close Combat 2nd turn where he would be safe and can wreak some havoc.

The choice to use it or not is yours. I just want you to make the choice with all the available facts.

Cheers.

Dp can't enter swooping mode atm, the FAQ says wing upgrades make the model jump infantry :(

 Remadyz wrote:
Dp can't enter swooping mode atm, the FAQ says wing upgrades make the model jump infantry :(

this is only for CSM i think, in the daemon codex they are flying

 VegRAWR wrote:

 Remadyz wrote:
Dp can't enter swooping mode atm, the FAQ says wing upgrades make the model jump infantry :(

this is only for CSM i think, in the daemon codex they are flying

Seeing as the thread says "CSM Shooty Army" i would have thought people would have guessed i meant in CSM

and isnt the chaos demon one something like demonic flight or demonic flying not wings?

 Remadyz wrote:

 VegRAWR wrote:

 Remadyz wrote:
Dp can't enter swooping mode atm, the FAQ says wing upgrades make the model jump infantry :(

this is only for CSM i think, in the daemon codex they are flying

Seeing as the thread says "CSM Shooty Army" i would have thought people would have guessed i meant in CSM

If a daemon prince is what he needs he can take it as an ally, with a cheap lord as warlord (don't think you can get a cheap lord tho)

If a daemon prince is what he needs he can take it as an ally, with a cheap lord as warlord (don't think you can get a cheap lord tho

True, but if he/she's playing at 1k points (might be more i dunno) its abit much to ally just to get a Flying MC/Flying DP (as you have to take a troops choice aswell it could get costly) an when it can get shot down straight away by a gun emplacement or by a flyer (barracuda/vendetta etc etc)

Like Dr. What said, just wait a few weeks an see what the new codex brings.

Thanks for all your suggestions.