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2012/09/02 15:57:24
Subject: Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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What do they count as in 6th ed? power sword, power axe or power maul?
as there hasn't been an update to the renegade list yet
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2012/09/02 16:04:07
Subject: Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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Leader of the Sept
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If it doesn't say then you get to choose.
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2012/09/02 16:22:38
Subject: Re:Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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Assault Kommando
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Actually, its if it doesn't say, you use whatever it looks like the model has. If it looks like a sword, you can't use the rules for an axe or maul.
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2012/09/02 18:49:07
Subject: Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
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2013/08/02 18:52:32
Subject: Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Page 61 Power Weapon entry. "we have four simple categories of power weapons: power axes, power mauls, power swords and power lances."
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2012/09/02 20:18:34
Subject: Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 DeathReaper wrote:
Page 61 Power Weapon entry.
"we have four simple categories of power weapons: power axes, power mauls, power swords and power lances."
So I can point to the page where it lists all the las weapons, and decide that my guardsmen deserve them?
Where does it say you can choose whatever power weapon you like?
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
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2012/09/02 21:16:30
Subject: Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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Leader of the Sept
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But Guardsmen are specifically armed with lasguns and laspistols rather than "las weapons". These have dedicated stat lines. Almost every army at this point can purchase "power weapons" and this allows you to choose from the categories provided as indicated in DathReaper's post. I would tend to agree that the model should have the category of power weapon shown on the model, but as the OP didn't indicate what the model comes with I chose the simplest answer.
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2012/09/02 23:25:40
Subject: Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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Lieutenant General
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Page 61 only tells you to look at the weapon to determine what kind of weapon it is. It will be either the army list entry of FAQ that will allow you to choose what kind of power weapon a model has.
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2012/09/03 05:24:03
Subject: Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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Ship's Officer
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 Testify wrote:
So I can point to the page where it lists all the las weapons, and decide that my guardsmen deserve them?
Where does it say you can choose whatever power weapon you like?
Not this again...
The common consensus seems to be that you can model whichever type of power weapon you'd like on the model, provided you've made it obvious enough to someone looking at it. This being said, with Ogryn, I would see them using a Maul or Axe as the other types seem a bit too technical for the kind of smashy goodness they prefer.
You may run into a few people who make a stink about how you "modeled your Ogryn for an advantage," but such people are usually best ignored.
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2012/09/03 05:42:17
Subject: Re:Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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The Conquerer
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look at your model(that you may or may not have modeled with a certain type)
If its a halberd, axe, or glaive, its an Axe.
If its a bladed weapon, its a sword.
If its a large blunt instrument such as a staff, club, or mace, its a Maul.
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2012/09/03 10:34:26
Subject: Re:Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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 Grey Templar wrote:look at your model(that you may or may not have modeled with a certain type)
If its a halberd, axe, or glaive, its an Axe.
If its a bladed weapon, its a sword.
If its a large blunt instrument such as a staff, club, or mace, its a Maul.
And if it is a long pointy stick it is a lance. Why does everyone ignore the Lance? Lances are power weapons too.
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2012/09/03 13:38:02
Subject: Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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the consensus is pretty much what I'd assumed.
the reason why I'd asked is that certain power weapons have different points costs as laid down in FAQs. So was just unsure if i needed to take that into consideration.
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2012/09/03 14:16:56
Subject: Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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A power weapon (sword, axe, lance, maul) has one cost in every codex I know of. Not sure what you are referring to.
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2012/09/03 15:45:42
Subject: Re:Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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The Conquerer
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Yeah, there are no power weapons that are listed seperatly right now(other than Unique Power Weapons which don't apply here)
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2012/09/03 17:51:41
Subject: Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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Ship's Officer
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 Sgt.Roadkill wrote:the consensus is pretty much what I'd assumed.
the reason why I'd asked is that certain power weapons have different points costs as laid down in FAQs. So was just unsure if i needed to take that into consideration.
Which FAQ is that?
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2012/09/04 10:26:11
Subject: Renegade Ogryn Power weapons what do they count as.
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Leader of the Sept
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Power Fists have different points costs, but then they are not Power Weapons but a separate weapon type.
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