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2012/09/03 03:34:53
Subject: Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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I want to make a army of samurai orks, but I have no clue as far as backstory. originally I thought about the movie seven samurai as an inspiration, then I realized seven orks does not an army make, then I thought about the 47 rhonin, but that's still not enough for an ork army. my brain if fried right now and I can't think of anything, so I'm handing it over to Dakka for the night: what is some bit of Japanese history or folklore that would work for an ork army? Right now all I can think of is basing my general off Oda Nobunaga, but if need be I can take that and run with it.
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Admiral Chester W Nimitz wrote:The war with Japan had been re-enacted in the game rooms here by so many people and in so many different ways, that nothing that happened during the war was a surprise.
My Cold War NATO IG, love to know what you think |
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2012/09/03 03:42:40
Subject: Re:Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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As far as making an army entirely out of samurai, its a bit more suited for elite armies.
That being said, you can certainly make a feudal Japanese inspired ork army. Your regular orks could be the simple pikeman peasants used as front line troops, while your nobs and warbosses/hqs could be modeled as hardcore samurai. That way you'd still have a smattering of the classic samurai as nobs and characters, and could still model ancient medieval weapons and armor.
Just a thought.
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2012/09/03 03:54:22
Subject: Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Yep thats's what I planned to do. Boyz are ashigaru the nobz are samurai, and the warboss is damyo. I just called them samurai orks as shorthand.
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Admiral Chester W Nimitz wrote:The war with Japan had been re-enacted in the game rooms here by so many people and in so many different ways, that nothing that happened during the war was a surprise.
My Cold War NATO IG, love to know what you think |
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2012/09/03 04:54:22
Subject: Re:Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Find as many Ork heads with top knots as possible. 
If you can find many small metal panels that look like they'd go to a Trukk, you can bend them together into a ramshackle.
Sadly, Samurai are kind of the opposite of Orks, disciplined, Honorable, swift fighters specialized in killing blows. If you have traces of that without losing the orky feel, you just might be golden.
But hands down, THE most important thing to remember as you build as Ork army: Think, be creative and have fun. If something sounds wild, it'll definitely be more orky. Go with your gut, make some oddball contraptions and let the green paint fly!
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Oppressor wrote:You're asking the wrong question.
The correct question is, would I be enjoying this hobby if I did this?
The correct audience is you.
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2012/09/03 11:20:30
Subject: Re:Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Exactly samurai are the opposite of orks, that's why it's so awesome. I've got some ideas for fluff: on a once feudal world a WAAAGH is about to start. There's just one problem: multiple warbosses have arisen at once, threatening to kill the WAAAGH in civil war before it begins. It falls to warboss nobunaga to unite the orks and lead the WAAAGH. To explain the aesthetic they're not actal samurai, they just looted their gear from the actual samurai and decided they liked it.
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Admiral Chester W Nimitz wrote:The war with Japan had been re-enacted in the game rooms here by so many people and in so many different ways, that nothing that happened during the war was a surprise.
My Cold War NATO IG, love to know what you think |
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2012/09/03 12:39:05
Subject: Re:Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/09/03 14:10:32
Subject: Re:Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Hallowed Canoness
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This idea sounds so funny it's awesome. Amazing what you can do with Orks.
I'm in favour of this. Also, why not do them all as samurai? It may not be "historically accurate", but considering what you're about to do... 
Also, the " Ronin Space Marines" that were showcased in WD once are doing this as well. Come to think of it, your could work a long-standing feud with this Space Marine Chapter into your fluff, or even have your Orks loot their armour from them!
Oh, and "orkify" the names a bit. Don't call it Daimyo Nobunaga, call him Nob Unargha or something. 
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2012/09/03 14:24:34
Subject: Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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If you execute it well and make it more like some hilarious anime type samurai instead of realistic samurai (some guys use 2 swords, or possibly more than 8 (fairly certain that is the most I have seen) in battle), some have giant swords much bigger than themselves, etc.
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2012/09/03 14:27:59
Subject: Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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Also, the swords need to be called "dakkatanas".
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2012/09/03 14:39:36
Subject: Re:Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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Funny to think what bushido laws would they abide - like, kill only if you can kill or pillage only first time, next time just go killing....
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/09/03 15:12:06
Subject: Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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My five year old cousin just read this thread over my shoulder. He's asked me to include the samurai power rangers. Poor kid I don't think he knows what a proper samurai looks like.
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Admiral Chester W Nimitz wrote:The war with Japan had been re-enacted in the game rooms here by so many people and in so many different ways, that nothing that happened during the war was a surprise.
My Cold War NATO IG, love to know what you think |
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2012/09/03 15:21:48
Subject: Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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 yeri wrote:My five year old cousin just read this thread over my shoulder. He's asked me to include the samurai power rangers. Poor kid I don't think he knows what a proper samurai looks like.
Tell him they are Power rangers from Japan:-)
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/09/03 15:52:11
Subject: Re:Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Power rangers are from japan already. Anyways I've got a list of what all the stuff in my army is:
HQ
Warboss: Daimyo
Big Mek: Legendary smith
Elites
Nobz: samurai
Nob bikers: mounted samurai
Lootaz: arqbusers
Mega nobz: Samurai in O-yoroi
Kommandos: ninja
Troops
Boyz: ashigaru
Grots: peasants
Transports
Trukk: Kobaya landship
Battlewagon: Bune landship
Fast attack
Planes: dragon planes
Stormboyz: rocket pack wako
Bikers: mounted ashigaru
Heavy support
Big guns: cannons
I'd like to include the warrior monks in there somewhere, I just don't know where.
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Admiral Chester W Nimitz wrote:The war with Japan had been re-enacted in the game rooms here by so many people and in so many different ways, that nothing that happened during the war was a surprise.
My Cold War NATO IG, love to know what you think |
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2012/09/03 15:52:53
Subject: Re:Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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There will be much awsome with this army
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2012/09/03 16:21:20
Subject: Re:Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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yeri wrote:Power rangers are from japan already. Anyways I've got a list of what all the stuff in my army is:
HQ
Warboss: Daimyo
Big Mek: Legendary smith
Elites
Nobz: samurai
Nob bikers: mounted samurai
Lootaz: arqbusers
Mega nobz: Samurai in O-yoroi
Kommandos: ninja
Troops
Boyz: ashigaru
Grots: peasants
Transports
Trukk: Kobaya landship
Battlewagon: Bune landship
Fast attack
Planes: dragon planes
Stormboyz: rocket pack wako
Bikers: mounted ashigaru
Heavy support
Big guns: cannons
I'd like to include the warrior monks in there somewhere, I just don't know where.
Funny imagine Bune landship filled with boys with katanas (like deadpool)
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/09/03 18:14:03
Subject: Re:Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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That's kind of the point. One of the common tactics with real bune ships was to get up next to an enemy ship and board them.
BTW how's this sound for an intro:
Daimyo Orka Nobzunaga studied the map in front of him. Everything had gone wrong since Warboss Ash Cager had rammed the space hulk into the ‘umies pathetic capitol. Grated there was a brief period of glorious krupin’ and lootin’, but with the ‘umies dead the Waaagh had lost its steam with no way off this rock the tribes had split and were warring amongst themselves. This wasn’t how it was supposed to be. Orks were supposed to krump the other gitz, not each other, at least not for this long. He pointed his war fan at one of his samurai retainers. “Round up da boyz, we getting’ the tribes back together and getting’ a proper waaagh goin’ again.”
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Admiral Chester W Nimitz wrote:The war with Japan had been re-enacted in the game rooms here by so many people and in so many different ways, that nothing that happened during the war was a surprise.
My Cold War NATO IG, love to know what you think |
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2012/09/03 18:21:13
Subject: Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Be sure to post pics for this army, I don't think it's ever been done before. It's exciting!
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2012/09/03 18:23:42
Subject: Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Fixture of Dakka
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This sounds like a terrible, terrible idea.
Therefore, it's Orky and will probably work. Do it!
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BlapBlapBlap: bringing idiocy and mischief where it should never set foot since 2011.
BlapBlapBlap wrote:What sort of idiot quotes themselves in their sigs? Who could possibly be that arrogant?
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2012/09/03 18:37:43
Subject: Re:Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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yeri wrote:That's kind of the point. One of the common tactics with real bune ships was to get up next to an enemy ship and board them.
BTW how's this sound for an intro:
Daimyo Orka Nobzunaga studied the map in front of him. Everything had gone wrong since Warboss Ash Cager had rammed the space hulk into the ‘umies pathetic capitol. Grated there was a brief period of glorious krupin’ and lootin’, but with the ‘umies dead the Waaagh had lost its steam with no way off this rock the tribes had split and were warring amongst themselves. This wasn’t how it was supposed to be. Orks were supposed to krump the other gitz, not each other, at least not for this long. He pointed his war fan at one of his samurai retainers. “Round up da boyz, we getting’ the tribes back together and getting’ a proper waaagh goin’ again.”
I like it! I think the whole thing sounds like an interesting idea. Do keep us posted on your progress!
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2012/09/03 18:39:22
Subject: Samurai Orks (Need Help With Backstory)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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 DemetriDominov wrote:Be sure to post pics for this army, I don't think it's ever been done before. It's exciting!
Oh I'm going to be putting this in the P&M blog as soon as the minis arrive, or maybe earlier if I feel like scratchbuilding the landships from stuff I can find in the school store (wonder if they're open today?) Know what, I'm just going to go make a placeholder right now I think.
EDIT: Darn it they're closed, I'll just get the blog going tomorrow after class.
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Admiral Chester W Nimitz wrote:The war with Japan had been re-enacted in the game rooms here by so many people and in so many different ways, that nothing that happened during the war was a surprise.
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