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I'm starting up Daemons in the future and just wanted some input on this list. I think it's pretty solid but I only have a few games under my belt so far and none with Daemons. The one thing that has me worried are fliers, I could drop one of the Seeker Cavalcades and Pick up a Soul Grinder with the Tongue upgrade but not sure if that would be enough.
Spoiler:
2000 Pts - Chaos Daemons Roster
Total Roster Cost: 2000
HQ: Fateweaver, Oracle of Tzeentch (1#, 333 pts)
1 Fateweaver, Oracle of Tzeentch
HQ: The Masque (1#, 100 pts)
1 The Masque
HQ: The Blue Scribes (1#, 130 pts)
1 The Blue Scribes
Troops: Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (10#, 185 pts)
9 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch x1
. . 1 The Changeling
Troops: Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (10#, 180 pts)
10 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch x1
Troops: Daemonettes of Slaanesh (13#, 182 pts)
13 Daemonettes of Slaanesh
Elite: Flamers of Tzeentch (5#, 115 pts)
5 Flamers of Tzeentch
Elite: Flamers of Tzeentch (5#, 115 pts)
5 Flamers of Tzeentch
Fast Attack: Screamers of Tzeentch (3#, 75 pts)
3 Screamers of Tzeentch
Fast Attack: Screamers of Tzeentch (3#, 75 pts)
3 Screamers of Tzeentch
Heavy Support: Seeker Cavalcade (7#, 170 pts)
1 Seeker Cavalcade . . 1 Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh . . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh . . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
Heavy Support: Seeker Cavalcade (7#, 170 pts)
1 Seeker Cavalcade . . 1 Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh . . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh . . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
Heavy Support: Seeker Cavalcade (7#, 170 pts)
1 Seeker Cavalcade . . 1 Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh . . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh . . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
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After browsing the forums a bit more I think I may like this list a bit better, could still use a bit of C&C on it though. I'm not really a big fan of Khorne and Nurgle so I'd prefer to keep them out of the list if possible, Tzeentch is my favorite but completely lacks in CC which is where the Slaanesh models would come in.
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Total Roster Cost: 2001
Herald of Tzeentch (110 pts) w/ Master of Sorcery, We Are Legion, Bolt of Tzeentch, Disc of Tzeentch - will run with the 8 Flamers
Fateweaver, Oracle of Tzeentch (333 pts)
The Masque (100 pts) - Will run with the Daemonettes
7 Flamers of Tzeentch (189 pts)
. . 1 Pyrocaster
8 Flamers of Tzeentch (184 pts)
15 Daemonettes of Slaanesh (210 pts) - I'm not certain if these are needed with the seekers or if I should drop these and add another Tzeentch herald to run with the second group of flamers, and then have 205 points to spend on something else.
4 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (100 pts) w/ Bolt of Tzeentch
. . 1 The Changeling
5 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (95 pts) w/ Bolt of Tzeentch
5 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (95 pts) w/ Bolt of Tzeentch
5 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (95 pts) w/ Bolt of Tzeentch
3 Screamers of Tzeentch (75 pts)
3 Screamers of Tzeentch (75 pts)
Seeker Cavalcade (170 pts) - 8-48 Rending Hammers of Wrath
. . 1 Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
. . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
. . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
Seeker Cavalcade (170 pts) - 8-48 Rending Hammers of Wrath
. . 1 Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
. . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
. . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
*Edit doh :( sorry for bumping my own post, thought it would be auto appended :(
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/09/05 23:05:09
Man I seem to be messing up on the IC thing lately.
I would like another Seeker Calvalcade but I'm not sure what to cut for one, other than the Daemonettes.
Another thought, I could cut the Fateweaver and Masque, lower the Flamers down to 7 and attach a Herald to each.
This would give enough points to add another 15 Daemonettes and another Full Seeker Cavalcade while keeping with Slaanesh and Tzeentch.
This would mean losing the re-rolls on saves but the chance of running away on a wound frightens me (I always roll high on Lds)
You are flat wrong when you say that tzeentch is bad at CC.
Look into more screamers if that is the goal, because they can kill anything in CC with little problem.
Str 5 AP 2 with 2 wounds and multiple attacks, plus HoW on the charge? Yes please.
rigeld2 wrote: Now go ahead and take that out of context to make me look like a fool.
This would mean losing the re-rolls on saves but the chance of running away on a wound frightens me (I always roll high on Lds)
Daemons are Fearless, which means that they will never run away in combat (unless they Hit-&-Run away). Fearless is good now. There is no downside to it other than the fact that you can't go-to-ground.
This would mean losing the re-rolls on saves but the chance of running away on a wound frightens me (I always roll high on Lds)
Daemons are Fearless, which means that they will never run away in combat (unless they Hit-&-Run away). Fearless is good now. There is no downside to it other than the fact that you can't go-to-ground.
I believe he's referring to Fateweaver's chance of fleeing the battlefield on any unsaved wound. And Tangeleno, I can't blame you for your caution. My Fateweaver runs away every time.
nolzur, you're quite right about the Screamers, not sure what I was thinking passing them up, I guess I had it stuck in my head they were AT only.
I was talking about Fateweaver's chance to flee the battlefield, sorry for not being more specific on that.
I've changed the list up a bit more.
Completely dropped the Daemonettes so it's almost a full Tzeentch list now, with only the Seekers being the odd ones out.
Dropped the Fateweaver to pick up the third seeker.
Dropped the Masque in favor of Scribes.
Added in more screamers.
I may end up picking this up on the 15th, minus all of the Seekers needed (12) and proxy in some of my Tervigons for the time being to see if they are worth it.
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Total Roster Cost: 2003
HQ:1 The Blue Scribes, 130 pts (20 more points than the Herald and he can make people dance)
HQ:1 Herald of Tzeentch, 110 pts, Master of Sorcery, We Are Legion, Bolt of Tzeentch, Disc of Tzeentch
Elite:8 Flamers of Tzeentch, 184 pts
Elite:8 Flamers of Tzeentch, 184 pts
Troops:4 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch, 100pts, Bolt of Tzeentch
. . 1 The Changeling
Troops: 5 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch, 120 pts, Bolt of Tzeentch, Chaos Icon
Troops: 5 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch, 120 pts, Bolt of Tzeentch, Chaos Icon
Troops: 5 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch, 95 pts, Bolt of Tzeentch
Fast Attack: 6 Screamers of Tzeentch, 150 pts
Fast Attack: 6 Screamers of Tzeentch, 150 pts
Fast Attack: 6 Screamers of Tzeentch, 150 pts
Heavy Support: Seeker Cavalcade (170 pts)
. . 1 Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
. . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
. . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
Heavy Support: Seeker Cavalcade (170 pts)
. . 1 Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
. . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
. . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
Heavy Support: Seeker Cavalcade (170 pts)
. . 1 Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
. . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
. . 1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh
You really don't need icons with this army. Everything is either ranged or moves fast, so you should be able to deal with scatters. That's one more flamer in each squad.
I'd also combine the screamers into two squads of 9, not 3 of 6.
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Centurian thanks for the advice, dropped the Icons and grabbed another flamer for each squad, brings me to 1999 instead of 2003 now. I think this is the money list now.