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So I was watching the extended version of The Return of the King, and Gimli was having a drinking competition with Legolas. I thought to myself 'if dwarves brew the best ale, elves must grow the best bud'. Then i thought...Weed Elves!

So how would people feel about a Wood Elf army themed around marijuana? I personally think it's a hilarious idea, Glade Guard with red eyes and joints, treekin with pot leaves growing off their branches, rasta colored banners with the leaf prominently displayed.

I'm afraid people would be somehow offended by it, and I get the feeling I wouldn't be able to use it at my local GW.. if that's the case, I won't bother making one.

It'd be a little ironic if people were offended by it though, the game is centered around violence, killing, and death after all. Not to mention all the drug, alcohol, and sex references throughout the lore of both 40k and Fantasy.

How would Dakka feel about it?

Hobbits actually grow the best leaf, just sayin.

Ah yes, the infamous Longbottom Leaf..

Seems a little stupid.

brettz123 wrote:
Seems a little stupid.

Seconded.
Not offended, but I think that GW has the same policy towards illicit drugs as they do towards profanity and I doubt you would be allowed to use it at a GW store.
Also, it's not a terribly bright idea, IMO.

It's kind of stupid, but funny as an idea. Don't forget though, that if the elves also grow weed, they probably have psilocybin shrooms as well.

Man, what fun guys they must be.



Get it?


No?


awww....

Anyone who just says it's stupid, care to explain why?

 Squidmanlolz wrote:

brettz123 wrote:
Seems a little stupid.

Seconded.
Not offended, but I think that GW has the same policy towards illicit drugs as they do towards profanity and I doubt you would be allowed to use it at a GW store.
Also, it's not a terribly bright idea, IMO.

says the guy with a stoner dancing in his sig...
ironic...

i think Weed Elves works as a small painting project, but as an army you'd better be prepared for the hate...
it seems more culturaly accepted to show someone getting shot over someone smoking a joint...

cheers
jah

 jah-joshua wrote:

 Squidmanlolz wrote:

brettz123 wrote:
Seems a little stupid.

Seconded.
Not offended, but I think that GW has the same policy towards illicit drugs as they do towards profanity and I doubt you would be allowed to use it at a GW store.
Also, it's not a terribly bright idea, IMO.

says the guy with a stoner dancing in his sig...
ironic...

i think Weed Elves works as a small painting project, but as an army you'd better be prepared for the hate...
it seems more culturaly accepted to show someone getting shot over someone smoking a joint...

cheers
jah

Yeah, just a little display project would probably be better, like a diorama or something.

 scuzz_bucket wrote:
@brettz123 and Squidmanlolz

Care to explain why you think it's stupid?

Dude, a bunch of elves fighting in the middle of battle while high is an already dumb idea to do if you think about it. It just wouldn't make too much sense. Like I said, that's more so cartoonish than not. Also remember that the weed culture isn't very...well appreciated. (sadly)

 Blitza da warboy wrote:

 scuzz_bucket wrote:
@brettz123 and Squidmanlolz

Care to explain why you think it's stupid?

Dude, a bunch of elves fighting in the middle of battle while high is an already dumb idea to do if you think about it. It just wouldn't make too much sense. Like I said, that's more so cartoonish than not. Also remember that the weed culture isn't very...well appreciated. (sadly)

Ah, now I understand. When I see brony space marines, I react the same way.

Now you feel my pain

But if you ever do something like that, the ent units are mandatory. Same with a Lorax themed character. (He protects the trees!)

scuzz_bucket wrote:
Yeah, just a little display project would probably be better, like a diorama or something.

I could get behind this. As a full army it would be as stupid as the American flag marines, or Nazi IG imho. As a once-off look-at-this ha-ha kind of deal it could be funny.
The real problem here is all of the dynamic battle ready poses. You have to convert these elves into slouchy lazy elves. Then you will have made the whole thing worth it.


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scuzz_bucket wrote:Ah, now I understand. When I see brony space marines, I react the same way.

QFT

Fighting while stoned? I think that's happened in history. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the original assassins use hash before missions?

 yeri wrote:
Fighting while stoned? I think that's happened in history. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the original assassins use hash before missions?

Original assassins from where?

 LumenPraebeo wrote:

 yeri wrote:
Fighting while stoned? I think that's happened in history. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the original assassins use hash before missions?

Original assassins from where?

The word "Assassin"originates from a group of middle Eastern assassins who killed political and religious targets. As to the part where they used hash before missions, I believe that is debated still. I think they received hash as a part of a form of payment. I guess weed was more expensive back then

 Sharkvictim wrote:

it would be as stupid as the American flag marines

I almost used that as an example, but I didn't want to risk offending someones sense of USA pride.

 Blitza da warboy wrote:

 LumenPraebeo wrote:

 yeri wrote:
Fighting while stoned? I think that's happened in history. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the original assassins use hash before missions?

Original assassins from where?

The word "Assassin"originates from a group of middle Eastern assassins who killed political and religious targets. As to the part where they used hash before missions, I believe that is debated still. I think they received hash as a part of a form of payment. I guess weed was more expensive back then

Well, from what I understand, marijuana more shifts your sense of awareness rather than degrades or diminishes, or even augments it. I hear, depending on the individual, your perceptions and awareness shift in different ways.

So imagine your a middle eastern assassin. You're probably relatively serious, you know you are risking death and are out to take someones life, it's kill or be killed.

Or, you're a twenty something year old college student with nothing better to do but ignore homework and play video games.

Would a mind altering substance effect those different people the same way? Word has it pot makes music sound cooler, so say my stoner friends in college. Their very auditory perception has shifted in some way, in some aspects it's dulled, in others sharpened. Not better or worse, just altered.

The assassin on the other hand, with training, could possibly learn to interpret his very auditory surroundings differently, approaching situations in varied, unexpected ways. Possibly, this could make them a more successful assassins, no?

Though speculation leads me to think not everyone will have a net benefit, if I'm forced to break the experience down into the dichotomy of positive and negative. Think of many of the very musicians making the music my stoner friends listened to, many of them were incredibly talented and high out of their minds. Other people go crazy and are committed. Wouldn't some assassins, therefore, stand to benefit from the effects of hash?

And they got hash because the chronic is way more powerful nowadays than back then, what with all the developments in plant care. Capable growers can develop their own strains, breeds of marijuana if you will through selective breeding. This is because the plant can put more effort into growing the actual THC crystals as other needs are met by regular feeding, lighting schedules, fertilizers and so forth, leading to more powerful weed. Hash is made from marijuana, and without all the developments in botany we have today, it was much more efficient to make it into hash as it's in essence, THC crystals pressed together, therefore there was no need to actually burn the excessive plant matter. It's the same today, though since the weed has much more THC and as such is much more powerful, people just burn it rather than go through the process of making hash, maybe out of stoner laze, or so I have read.

Look at the Elves in the Overlord video games:

http://overlord.wikia.com/wiki/Elves

I think the idea is a silly one, no offense. But at the same time, would be a hilarious novelty to show off. Which therein lies the problem, it's only really a novelty. You'll come into a store one day, plonk down your "weed elves", and everyone will have a laugh. Maybe you'll even be known as the "weed elves guy" from then on. This is all assuming the store allowed you to play an army with explicit depictions of drugs.
Then you'll look back and think "Man, did I seriously make this?"

That was my thought process in any case, when I considered making Angry Marines.

It's a one-trick-pony joke. Funny the first time someone sees it, then after a while it loses the humor and becomes annoying. For instance when someone uses the same catchphrase, no matter how funny the few times you heard it like "that's what SHE said", after a while turns you into TFG who can't learn a new phrase to keep the funny going. The Brony army is a great example.

Then again... they're your models, do what you like with them! You must've seen the Hello Kitty Marines?

I have a Wood Elf Blood Bowl team, the Laurelorn Leafeaters, with a rather...weedy...look, with a Treeman sporting a big moss afro and holding a hand-rolled and lit...cigar...it is very much a cheap joke, with a limited amount of models, which sort of fits Blood Bowl. A lot better than it would fit WHFB, at least.

It seems juvenile. It's like those folks who smoke weed who insist on 'take me to your dealer' posters and wearing bob marley Tshirts when they don't listen to his music. I drink gin, I don't wander about with juniper leaves plastered all over my apparel.

All that attention seeking about smoking pot reminds me of Dr Rockso and his 'I seriously do a lot of cocaine...'


C-c-c-Yeayah!

I just don't get the need to publicise that someone smokes pot. I've tried it a few times so it's not that I'm uneducated in the subject, I just don't get the need to advertise it. It's not cool, it doesn't make people think more of you, and in my experience it just turns you in to a complete ass.

I get the comparison that you're making, personally if I saw I'd just roll me eyes and move on to the next.

I wouldn't have a problem seeing this army across the table. It is far less offensive than seeing an army of Blood Angels lead by Mephiston. I wouldn't take it to a GW store though as only depictions of violence are allowed. What's that little Timmy? Your Space Marine captain is holding a Ork's decapitated head aloft? Aw isn't that nice!

I think its a fine idea. Creative. There is no law that says your models have to be PC.
But they already have High Elves.
And goblin fanatics are stuffed with crazy mushrooms.
Dwarves used to have a beer cart that improved their leadership.
Maybe you could do this army in a slightly more subtile fashion, or prepare to get stoned for it.

I'm going to have to back up the "fairly" juvenile responses...

I like a good fart joke as much as the next chap, and I have plenty of friends that smoke weed, but I don't think the weed elves is a good idea because it's off-putting, and goes back to the idea of advertising your pot use. People look at ladies without clothing on from time to time, but it's not something they just tell other people.

Like MGS says, he doesn't have juniper leaves plastered on his wardrobe because he drinks gin.

I agree with the comment that a joke like this works best on a limited number of models; just a single unit. I have an Ultramarines army with a handful of misfits in it.... how Brother Senioris Sativa ever got in charge of a combat squad is a mystery, given his penchant for obscura and purple tie-dye headscarves.... never mind Brother Siccus the alcoholic heavy weapons specialist ('It steadies my aim')... Funny part is, they're usually quite an effective unit of APC hunters.

Dude... where's my devilfish?

 scuzz_bucket wrote:
So I was watching the extended version of The Return of the King, and Gimli was having a drinking competition with Legolas. I thought to myself 'if dwarves brew the best ale, elves must grow the best bud'. Then i thought...Weed Elves!

So how would people feel about a Wood Elf army themed around marijuana? I personally think it's a hilarious idea, Glade Guard with red eyes and joints, treekin with pot leaves growing off their branches, rasta colored banners with the leaf prominently displayed.

I'm afraid people would be somehow offended by it, and I get the feeling I wouldn't be able to use it at my local GW.. if that's the case, I won't bother making one.

It'd be a little ironic if people were offended by it though, the game is centered around violence, killing, and death after all. Not to mention all the drug, alcohol, and sex references throughout the lore of both 40k and Fantasy.

How would Dakka feel about it?

You... you're, like, 16, right?

I'd rather see Weed Elves than Nazi Guardsmen.

My only problem with ideas like this is that there are children in this hobby.

I've long desired to make a Slaanesh army that focused on the "male" aspects only to make people really uncomfortable.

I've planned out the parts, what would be needed for convertions and how much it would cost.

But I could never bring it to a GW store and I'd be a little nervous bringing it to my FLGS.

It would look awesome. It would fit the theme of Slaanesh. It would be no different than an army of little naked chicks.

But in all honesty people would rather see tons of boobs than tons of... sausage.