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I'm not that big with the Halo lore, but isn't the Covenant technically a scavenger race? I mean, they were pretty high on looting Forerunner tech, and everything they have is effectively Forerunner stuff. So if they would pop into the 40k verse, then they would lose their technological edge very quickly as they would lack the looted Forerunner tech to resupply their armies.

So they would be a big threat at the beginning, but they would degrade into "just another Xeno race" very quickly.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

TheCustomLime wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:

TheCustomLime wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:

 Squidmanlolz wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:
The Covenents tech was crafted by human hands. The Admech would TELEPORT onboard and take control.

Nothing in the halo universe (I love halo btw) could stand up to the IoM.

But again. This has already been discussed... dozens of times.

Search. Engine.

The covenant's tech isn't made by humans... not at all.
It's all looted Forerunner tech.

Spoiler alert: The Forerunners were humans.

No, they weren't. In the newer Halo novels it is revealed that the Forerunners and humans are in fact separate species. However, the Forerunners considered the humans to be their heirs. So that's what Guilt Spark was talking about.

Really? That sucks. Guess I don't love Halo anymore.

And my dislike of the Halo series has only increased even more.
Seriously, humans are the heirs of the galaxy? That's somehow even worse than the Forerunners being human.

Not so much the heirs to the galaxy as the heirs to what the Forerunners left behind, IE the Halo rings, the Ark etc. Here is some more info on the humans and the Forerunners. Spoilers ensue.

Spoiler:

Sometime before the Halo rings were fired the humans had a great Empire. Like, an interstellar Empire. And they were allied with the Prophets. So, when the flood first invaded the humans went to war with them. They won by modifying the genes of a good portion of their population and "Feeding" them to the flood, killing them somehow. After their victory they went to war with the Forerunners and were literally blasted back into the stone age. Forerunners wiped out all evidence of humanity's empire and put 'em on Earth. After that the flood came back and the Halo rings were fired and the rest is history.
So, the Forerunners decided that humanity would be the ones to inherit their tech after they all died out for some reason. Someone who has read the new novels will shed light on it.

EDIT: Back on topic, the Covenant actually wiped the floor with the UNSC throughout most of the war. The only way their navy lost was when the UNSC had a massive advantage and even then casualties were near total. What really gave the UNSC the edge was the Great Schism. Without it, humanity would've been exterminated. So... I don't think they'd get rofl stomped any harder than other smaller alien empires. Especially with their superior FTL tech.

And now my contempt is over 9000.
That has to be the most ridiculous and contrived sci-fi story that I have ever heard of.

Really?
How is it particularly contrived?

 purplefood wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

TheCustomLime wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:

TheCustomLime wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:

 Squidmanlolz wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:
The Covenents tech was crafted by human hands. The Admech would TELEPORT onboard and take control.

Nothing in the halo universe (I love halo btw) could stand up to the IoM.

But again. This has already been discussed... dozens of times.

Search. Engine.

The covenant's tech isn't made by humans... not at all.
It's all looted Forerunner tech.

Spoiler alert: The Forerunners were humans.

No, they weren't. In the newer Halo novels it is revealed that the Forerunners and humans are in fact separate species. However, the Forerunners considered the humans to be their heirs. So that's what Guilt Spark was talking about.

Really? That sucks. Guess I don't love Halo anymore.

And my dislike of the Halo series has only increased even more.
Seriously, humans are the heirs of the galaxy? That's somehow even worse than the Forerunners being human.

Not so much the heirs to the galaxy as the heirs to what the Forerunners left behind, IE the Halo rings, the Ark etc. Here is some more info on the humans and the Forerunners. Spoilers ensue.

Spoiler:

Sometime before the Halo rings were fired the humans had a great Empire. Like, an interstellar Empire. And they were allied with the Prophets. So, when the flood first invaded the humans went to war with them. They won by modifying the genes of a good portion of their population and "Feeding" them to the flood, killing them somehow. After their victory they went to war with the Forerunners and were literally blasted back into the stone age. Forerunners wiped out all evidence of humanity's empire and put 'em on Earth. After that the flood came back and the Halo rings were fired and the rest is history.
So, the Forerunners decided that humanity would be the ones to inherit their tech after they all died out for some reason. Someone who has read the new novels will shed light on it.

EDIT: Back on topic, the Covenant actually wiped the floor with the UNSC throughout most of the war. The only way their navy lost was when the UNSC had a massive advantage and even then casualties were near total. What really gave the UNSC the edge was the Great Schism. Without it, humanity would've been exterminated. So... I don't think they'd get rofl stomped any harder than other smaller alien empires. Especially with their superior FTL tech.

And now my contempt is over 9000.
That has to be the most ridiculous and contrived sci-fi story that I have ever heard of.

Really?
How is it particularly contrived?

It just sounds...off. Humans had an empire? Well, where is the evidence of that empire? There has to be something left. Its not easy to erase an entire race's imperial history. I don't care how bloody advanced you are. Unless you are Doctor Who, it's just so improbable
You mean to tell me human civilization started from scratch? Nothing survived, no random hermit with the schematics for a toaster?
It just strikes me as a bad story. Maybe contrived is a wrong term. Whatever the right term is, its not good.

Considering they were engaged in a war which sent the entire race back to the stone age I could see it being somewhat conceivable
Especially since the same people who did that to them are the same people who built the Halos...
Eradicating the evidence of an empire would be child's play to a race which can wipe out the sentient life of an entire galaxy in a single move......hell the Covenant could probably doing it (Though it'd take much longer)
At any rate it's no more contrived than a fair number of sci-fi stories...
40k is hardly picture perfect in this case...

 purplefood wrote:
Considering they were engaged in a war which sent the entire race back to the stone age I could see it being somewhat conceivable
Especially since the same people who did that to them are the same people who built the Halos...
Eradicating the evidence of an empire would be child's play to a race which can wipe out the sentient life of an entire galaxy in a single move......hell the Covenant could probably doing it (Though it'd take much longer)
At any rate it's no more contrived than a fair number of sci-fi stories...
40k is hardly picture perfect in this case...

40k doesn't try to be serious though. Its meant to be ridiculous and OTT. I can understand acts of extreme strangeness with 40k.
And 40k still doesn't feature an entire empire being inexplicably being shot into the stone age. You don't just lose all that tech. And wiping out evidence of an empire is a lot harder than killing everyone.
The Romans are dead, their empire razed to the ground, and we still find evidence of their existence. And besides, what of those "stone age" humans? Wouldn't they remember their empire?

I mean, look at m=Mass Effect. The reapers killed everyone. They destroyed everything. Yet there is still some scraps of the civilizations that they destroyed. And the reapers strike me as being a hell lot more powerful than the forerunners.
I just find that whole scenario unlikely. I believe "jumping the shark" might be the correct term. It just seems out of place.

Anyway. Sorry for going off topic. My brain just couldn't process that. I can take many strange things, even illogical things, but the whole "humanity had a great empire before but they lost it all and there's no evidence of said empire because...shut up and now they are back in the stone age again" thing really, really bugs me. Oh, and its bloody convienent that the universal ancient alien doomsday devices just happen to be linked to human physiology. My brain also hates that.

Yeah, covenant are screwed. They won't last 10 minutes.

Ok, Necrons out tech them.

Eldar also out techs them, and they are more mobile.

IoM will just steam roll over them like they do to everyone (or rather, try to do to everyone).

Tau would try to negotiate with them, but thanks to the covenant's pride they would reject their terms, call the Tau heretics, and launch a pointless crusade...which they will promptly lose as they are on the Tau's own turf, in their own galaxy and hardly any resources.

Nids outnumber them.

Orks outnumber them as well, but they might keep the elites, brutes and hunters alive for a good fight now and then.

Chaos will sacrifice them/consume their souls/whatever.

TheCustomLime wrote:

 TheAngrySquig wrote:
They'd get destroyed against almost everything. They might be able to deal with 2 or 3 planets until they decided to attack somewhere real (Terra, Cadia, Fenris) and get roflstomped

You could say that about most factions, though. The Sisters of Battle couldn't land on Fenris, it took a lot of effort from Chaos to take Cadia and Terra is nigh unassailable.

Yeah, those are extreme examples, but any heavily defended planet would do fine

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 purplefood wrote:
Considering they were engaged in a war which sent the entire race back to the stone age I could see it being somewhat conceivable
Especially since the same people who did that to them are the same people who built the Halos...
Eradicating the evidence of an empire would be child's play to a race which can wipe out the sentient life of an entire galaxy in a single move......hell the Covenant could probably doing it (Though it'd take much longer)
At any rate it's no more contrived than a fair number of sci-fi stories...
40k is hardly picture perfect in this case...

40k doesn't try to be serious though. Its meant to be ridiculous and OTT. I can understand acts of extreme strangeness with 40k.
And 40k still doesn't feature an entire empire being inexplicably being shot into the stone age. You don't just lose all that tech. And wiping out evidence of an empire is a lot harder than killing everyone.
The Romans are dead, their empire razed to the ground, and we still find evidence of their existence. And besides, what of those "stone age" humans? Wouldn't they remember their empire?

I mean, look at m=Mass Effect. The reapers killed everyone. They destroyed everything. Yet there is still some scraps of the civilizations that they destroyed. And the reapers strike me as being a hell lot more powerful than the forerunners.
I just find that whole scenario unlikely. I believe "jumping the shark" might be the correct term. It just seems out of place.

Anyway. Sorry for going off topic. My brain just couldn't process that. I can take many strange things, even illogical things, but the whole "humanity had a great empire before but they lost it all and there's no evidence of said empire because...shut up and now they are back in the stone age again" thing really, really bugs me. Oh, and its bloody convienent that the universal ancient alien doomsday devices just happen to be linked to human physiology. My brain also hates that.

I'm with you, man. I think the whole "Humans used to be an empire b4!" thing is stupid but it's now canon. Hopefully Halo 4 will address these plot holes. Or introduce 100 more.

Yeah, covenant are screwed. They won't last 10 minutes.

Ok, Necrons out tech them.

Eldar also out techs them, and they are more mobile.

IoM will just steam roll over them like they do to everyone (or rather, try to do to everyone).

Tau would try to negotiate with them, but thanks to the covenant's pride they would reject their terms, call the Tau heretics, and launch a pointless crusade...which they will promptly lose as they are on the Tau's own turf, in their own galaxy and hardly any resources.

Nids outnumber them.

Orks outnumber them as well, but they might keep the elites, brutes and hunters alive for a good fight now and then.

Chaos will sacrifice them/consume their souls/whatever.

A lot of minor alien empires are in that situation yet manage to eke out an existence in the grim dark future. However, those Empires do this by not ing with the Imperium.. which the Covenant would most likely do. Their superior FTL, which as I've said, would help them but it would be up to the Prophets in charge to see them to ultimate victory... which is doable, since their ultimate victory is activating the Halo rings.
@TheAngrySquid
If you mean Fortress worlds then, yes, the Covvies would have a hard time taking them down but it's possible. Though the ground casualties would be appalling given that a Wraith could be one shotted by a two guardsman with a Lascannon.