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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/10 17:09:49
Subject: Necron Canoptek Hive (1999 pts)
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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So I love the idea of the Necron constructs. Now that I've gotten a few Forge World models, I'm thinking of doing a themed army that is mostly composed of the creepier elements of the Necron tombworlds.
But I feel like it may fall flat on its face. Not enough anti-tank? Not enough to handle hordes? Unsure what it needs.
Here's the starting point I'm going from:
5 Wraiths with 3 Whip Coils
5 Wraiths with 3 Whip Coils
6 Canoptek Acanthrites ( http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/a/acanthrite.pdf )
2 Tomb Stalkers ( http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/t/tstalker.pdf (rules very slightly different now, 205 points, but close enough))
3 Canoptek Spyders with TL Particle Beamers
=1315 points
I feel a little silly about using the Spyders with no Scarabs (the FA slot is really crowded), but I felt that the Beamers might be good for thinning out big blobs of guardsmen or orks.
For HQ I was considering Imotekh for Night Fighting to give them time to get in close, or perhaps a Barge Lord to just fly around and dice things up.
Alternately, a pair of Destroyer Lords leading the Wraiths, an option that I'm leaning towards but not positive on.
For Troops I was thinking Immortals (with Tesla, as I prefer the style of that) in Night Scythes, flying in to beam down and clean up the mess once the constructs have tied up threats, while their rides clear the air of other flyers. Hopefully three units so I can actually do something in objective matches rather than needing to babysit my troops, but points start to get tight.
Suggestions? Ideas? Insights? Riddles? Amusing anecdotes?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Update:
Can do it with 2 Night Scythed Immortal squads, 6 men each, and 2 Destroyer Lords with Sempiternal Weaves and Mindshackle Scarabs, if I drop 1 Acanthrite.
But I seriously wonder if that is too few Troops.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/09/10 19:51:24
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/10 17:41:52
Subject: Necron Canoptek Hive (1999)
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high
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Hm, what points level are you aiming for? Immotek seems a natural choice for this army.
I'd max out the wraiths to 6, more survivable, more attacks.
Never heard of the Acanthrites before, are they new?
Tomb Stalkers should pack a good punch, just make sure they prioritize.
Night Scythes with small warriors squads, backed by footslogging immortals might be a good idea.
I could see this being a pretty fun list really!
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Bedouin Dynasty: 10000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
MajorStoffer wrote:
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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/10 17:45:27
Subject: Necron Canoptek Hive (1999)
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iGuy91 wrote:Never heard of the Acanthrites before, are they new?
They are indeed! Jump infantry with T5, 2 wounds, 3+ saves (non-invuln), and a couple of Rending/Entropic attacks, with mini-meltas. Picked up six of them at Gencon, curious to see how they do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/10 18:15:33
Subject: Necron Canoptek Hive (1999)
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high
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Nightbringer's Chosen wrote: iGuy91 wrote:Never heard of the Acanthrites before, are they new?
They are indeed! Jump infantry with T5, 2 wounds, 3+ saves (non-invuln), and a couple of Rending/Entropic attacks, with mini-meltas. Picked up six of them at Gencon, curious to see how they do.
Sounds very promising to me, so the trick is getting them all into close range and assault. You could potentially deep strike the Stalkers, hm....wraiths will make it into assault unless an enemy really focus fires them. The Acanthrites seem a pretty good unit, I just think you need more bodies methinks! (That and Immotehk)
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Bedouin Dynasty: 10000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
MajorStoffer wrote:
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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/10 18:41:41
Subject: Necron Canoptek Hive (1999)
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Acanthrites are amazing as they are, but i see official rules pushing them back a bit.
As they stand i see them as one of the strongest units available and they cost pretty much nothing.
If you want to keep it more in theme, go with Dlords as they are fitting (can add some legs if you want to make them look more fitting)
They really do hit well though, and with wraiths, they are nasty.
Also, what points limit are you aiming for?
Will help give a rough idea as to what can be shuffled about and where.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/10 18:58:51
Subject: Necron Canoptek Hive (1999 pts)
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Jackal wrote:Acanthrites are amazing as they are, but i see official rules pushing them back a bit.
As they stand i see them as one of the strongest units available and they cost pretty much nothing.
Really? Didn't realize that, thought they were kind of iffy since their melta weapons are only S6 and AP2, and they have no invuln saves, but perhaps Wraiths have spoiled me.
Ah, sorry, thought it was clear, was shooting for 1999 or so (2000 but one FOC), will clarify in the subject. Perhaps expanding to 2500.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/10 19:04:57
Subject: Necron Canoptek Hive (1999)
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May only be S6, but still more than does its job.
I ran 2 units of 6.
Granted they arent CC monsters, but they can fight if needed, just avoid PW's.
Also, they actually have 3 wounds, so even better
T5, 3 wounds, 2 attacks base and void blades means they can take a good hit and only S10 will ID them.
Also, keep in mind they have the stealth rule, which really helps.
Ok, 1 issue is cover.
The enemy will make you assault into terrain (and nades are rare) so taking something like a C'tan could keep them out of cover and give you a nice CC boost. (not to mention S10 smash attacks)
But i think 2 Dlords and a C'tan would add nicely to the list at hand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 00:51:56
Subject: Necron Canoptek Hive (1999)
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Jackal wrote:Ok, 1 issue is cover.
The enemy will make you assault into terrain (and nades are rare) so taking something like a C'tan could keep them out of cover and give you a nice CC boost. (not to mention S10 smash attacks)
But i think 2 Dlords and a C'tan would add nicely to the list at hand.
Considered that, though...well, I loved the idea of the Writhing Worldscape shenanigans, was all into making the army, Orikan The Diviner is one of my favorite characters, even converted my own Tremorstaves for my Crypteks, but then 6E comes out and says "You can take armour saves against Dangerous Terrain", and my enthusiasm for it just kind of deflated.
Also, not fond of the FAQ ruling that says Wraiths effortlessly phase through terrain, pause to look behind them and appreciate the simple arboreal beauty, and then fight their round of combat.
Definitely thinking two Destroyer Lords, though.
I think I'll bring the C'Tan along for 2500.
I do like them quite a bit. Actually what attracted me to Necrons in the first place, back when they (the C'Tan, not the Necrons) were first introduced, even if they're a bit less...focal to their story now. Automatically Appended Next Post: As an aside, what do people think of the Spyders? Worth using with no Scarabs around?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 04:35:52
Subject: Re:Necron Canoptek Hive (1999 pts)
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Im actually building an army just like this with the same idea.
I originally had the same problem with scarabs being absent from the list while having spiders in the heavy slot, but the list is more of my fun/casual list that I mostly play with friends. As much as I like a giant swarm of scarabs at the front lines, I enjoy having giant robot locusts there instead.
I have 2 triarch stalkers in the elite slot to give an extra umph to the acanthrites to combat termi threats.
I didnt add the praetorian driver to the model mainly because without him, the walker looks very much like the other canoptic constructs.
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