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 -DE- wrote:

I haven't been that disappointed in my life. Even the frigging Raptors are cartoonish and look nothing like the Chosen, a direction I so hope they'd pursue. There's not enough genuine design, and way too much random bits glued together. Is there an actual designer left at GW? To add insult to injury, that isn't even a piece of artwork on the cover, just a shot of a model! How cheap is that...? :/ This put me off a Chaos army big time.

OK. bye.

 Flashman wrote:

 Chaos Emperor wrote:

 avedominusnox wrote:
Guys they fit perfectly and stop moaning. Now I m sure people are not happy with anything.
We get a new possibly better WD, we get a new dex, new models and these are he pics we have online ATM.
Wait for more!

Agreed totally!!

Everyone, this is just what has been put up AT THE MOMENT!!
on a second note if you dont like it, you can (radical idea here) not buy it or you can convert it!!!
this is the first pics out, no one has said this is it!!

STOP MOANING!!

We are allowed to not like it and to voice our opinion to that effect.

i know, and i am sorry, honestlly! i just got so annoyed at how people just dissmissed them so quickly! especially after the long wait.

Getting a bit too heated in here.

Opinions on,.. everything... will vary.

Agree to disagree, and stay polite.

Avoid extremes, insults and using giant font sizes.

Thanks!

 pretre wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Clue me in? I am an artist and sculptor and it is not hard to make new models that have a unique look. The poses can start to wain but this isn't even trying to be unique IMO.

Show me something that isn't derivative.

The wet nurse model was not derivative. IMO

DINO BOTS ....... seriously. Chaos just became the Dino Bots.

reorox wrote:
DINO BOTS ....... seriously. Chaos just became the Dino Bots.

I am going to covert one to grimlock..... Oh wait Ill just paint it like they did

The Models look great IMO. The dragon really stands out. The problem is the paint job. Its ridiculously simplistic and doesn't really show off how good this thing can look. But the reason for the simplistic paint-job is obviously to not scare-off new customers.
Out of all the the people I've tried to get into the hobby, the ones that ran away did so because they thought they could never paint their models to look like the the top-notch hobbyist models. (Surprisingly they weren't turned away by the cost of the hobby.) By the time I tried to explain to these people that their models didn't need to be *that* detailed/good, they all ready had their first impression and were over-whelmed by what they initially saw. Thus its a good idea to keep simple paint jobs on these advertisements. Wait till you see what an experienced hobbyist can do with a basic paint-job alone.

I like space dinosaurs, I have always wished for lizardmen in space much like the bad guys in turok, but thats another discussion

Cant wait to see more pics.

 pretre wrote:

 Squigsquasher wrote:
They haven't shown the cover, just the model spreads.

The Forgefiends are awesome, as are the new Raptors.

And it still doesn't look like the model, but I'll wait for a closer look.

Learn some manners maybe? Way to insult another poster by correcting him wrong... -_-

That's the exact same model as in the other picture, just from the other side. You can even see the base at the bottom of the cover! It's clearly a painted three-dimensional object, just look at the metallic paint, not to mention the color scheme is identical.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Clue me in? I am an artist and sculptor and it is not hard to make new models that have a unique look. The poses can start to wain but this isn't even trying to be unique IMO.

Show me something that isn't derivative.

The wet nurse model was not derivative. IMO

IMO, the wet nurse model was derivative of the whole anime, tentacle pr0n industry. It had some unique elements but I'm fairly certain that given a couple minutes of watching overfiend, I would get a strong sense of deja vu.

Looks good so far, lots of good conversion potential in all those kits.

Depending how the FOC lines up with the new stuff I may be only getting a Dragon or two to add to my collection. I'm most interested to see the Elites, Troops, and how they cost out with the various options. I hope I can still run my Black Legion with no Cult troops and only Icons... and I hope they did not invalidate Oblits somehow to force us into buying new models...

Need... rules... for... Abadabadon.

 -DE- wrote:
Starship Troopers, Elric, Dune, Alien, Terminator... Now they can add Power Rangers, Zoids, and Getter Robo's Dinosaur Empire to the mix, just grimdarked. Or is it grimdorked?

I haven't been that disappointed in my life. Even the frigging Raptors are cartoonish and look nothing like the Chosen, a direction I so hope they'd pursue. There's not enough genuine design, and way too much random bits glued together. Is there an actual designer left at GW? To add insult to injury, that isn't even a piece of artwork on the cover, just a shot of a model! How cheap is that...? :/ This put me off a Chaos army big time.

I wholeheartedly agree. I have not liked any of the new chaos line personally. Even the dark vengeance ones look to crowded in my opinion.

Reminds me of the major overhaul to Crons. At first everyone hated them and then as they saw them on the tabletops and picked up the models started talking about how great they all were.....just par for the course.

I think these look great and am excited to finally take my Chaos off the shelf for another spin.

People are seriously overreacting with those Zoids. The paintjob is doing those models no favors, but the underlying design is pretty good. Observe



I'm not even talking about the second pic, because obviously not everyone will want to make that kind of conversion, but just not slapping a red rim light on the thing makes it looks much better.

looks like a megatherium to me.

And so Dakka's monthly ungrateful moaning competition begins again...

If someone here had done a kitbash and produced those everybody would be applauding them and telling them how awesome they look.

But since this is GW, and if you like anything GW does you're a White Knight, they automatically suck.

Nice one guys.

Those Warp Talons look so crispy.

You know, like opening a bag'o'doritos or somefin'

Hahahaha that shop is amazing of the hellbrute head on the forgefiend.

 pretre wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Clue me in? I am an artist and sculptor and it is not hard to make new models that have a unique look. The poses can start to wain but this isn't even trying to be unique IMO.

Show me something that isn't derivative.

The wet nurse model was not derivative. IMO

IMO, the wet nurse model was derivative of the whole anime, tentacle pr0n industry. It had some unique elements but I'm fairly certain that given a couple minutes of watching overfiend, I would get a strong sense of deja vu.

First off, it doesn't look anything like tentacle porn.
Secondly, anime isn't sculpture and in it's own technique entirely. You have failed.

 -DE- wrote:

Learn some manners maybe? Way to insult another poster by correcting him wrong... -_-

That's the exact same model as in the other picture, just from the other side. You can even see the base at the bottom of the cover! It's clearly a painted three-dimensional object, just look at the metallic paint, not to mention the color scheme is identical.

If it is the same model, where's the tail in the second picture?

The tail is probably something extra on the sprue, I doubt what you see on the pics is all that will be included in the box

Well to add my opinion to this soon flaming thread
I just wonder why didnt they pursued or continued aesthetics like decimator, brass scorpion or slaughterfiend, those were great unique and did look like chaos (my opinion).
When I first heard for the dragon thing I was very skeptical and this what they have delivered is quite disappointing. Maybe there are possible some different visual builds with a box.
Well positive thing for players would be easier scratch building of the said model and for the warmachine factory increased sale of their Cryx faction.

Hang on. Wet Nurse? Please do not circumvent our word filter. Thanks. Manchu

The tail is probably rising up from the other side.

I remember the first pic we had from the dark elder clawed fiend, people were complaining it only had one leg, and it had a weird muscle coming out of it's stomach, turns out it was it's other leg rising on it's other side.

Wait for 360 degree views, or even better wait until you have it in your hands.

Kinda looks like this:



Should be more like this:

 Red Corsair wrote:
First off, it doesn't look anything like tentacle porn.
Secondly, anime isn't sculpture and in it's own technique entirely. You have failed.

Not safe for sanity picture.


Oh, my bad, a giant tentacle about to violate a pregnant woman is tons different than tentacle porn.

Derivation has nothing to do with medium. If I write a movie called Fightscissors 30k, is it not derivative because film is a different technique? Of course not.

There is nothing new under the sun. Everything is derivative of something.

Bleeurcchh!!!!

Wow looks like GWs idea of original is to rip off something different for a change. Well I'm sure it will be great for the hobby to be able to use power ranger toys from toys'r'us as cheap proxies.

Im guessing there's a major fluff update coming with all this.

@petre we are discussing sculpture there pal. I have a mecha godzilla on my shelf, comparing anime to a sculpt is stupid.

My point if you reread, was about SCULPTING.... You asked for an example and I gave one in literally 3 seconds.... Not hard, try again.

Technique is very pertinent to my point. Stop trying to move the fence, those are laughably similar to designs that have been done TO DEATH.

 pretre wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
First off, it doesn't look anything like tentacle porn.
Secondly, anime isn't sculpture and in it's own technique entirely. You have failed.

Not safe for sanity picture.

Spoiler:

Oh, my bad, a giant tentacle about to violate a pregnant woman is tons different than tentacle porn.

Derivation has nothing to do with medium. If I write a movie called Fightscissors 30k, is it not derivative because film is a different technique? Of course not.

There is nothing new under the sun. Everything is derivative of something.

Oh my...Just no.

I fear no man...But that...THING...It scares me!

That thing is disgusting. Seriously, what the hell? Very tasteful.