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If the dragon really is $76 US then I might just bite the bullet and pick up a Hellblade for $8.50 more.....

I like the dragon but the Hellblade would fit my IW's better....

Hrm, looking over the new info, pictures and models, I have some mixed feelings.

I'd be thrilled if the cover art was that of the Blood Gorgons, that was a great picture.

The Warp Talons...while excellent models from a technical standpoint, are suffering way too much from "spiky marines" syndrome I feel, especially next to the current Raptors, which, while poorly balanced and prone to falling over, actually have a feeling of warped unnaturalness about their form (sometimes less is more) and not simply spikes and faces on their armor.

The Warpsmith looks pretty sweet, though I can't tell if it's a resculpt of a loyalist techmarine or not.

Not a fan at all of the Dragon, I don't understand why we just couldn't get a Hell Talon/Hell Blade in plastic.

The Dark Apostle looks cool, though I hope he comes with a helmeted option.

Not sure how I feel yet about the new daemon engines, they look rather Warmahordes-ey, and whole not strictly a bad thing, they do look a bit odd.

The mutilators look like something out of WoW made real...10 year old polygon restrictions and all...much like the plastic DP. I really wish they'd stop sculpting like that.

I'm a fan of the new Aspiring Champion model(s) and most of the Chaos stuff from Dark Vengeance turned out to be pretty sweet.



I do have some other concerns though, if the codex really is debuting at 39 Pounds, it's probably going to be $65 US, so in the space of 5 years we've gone from a codex costing $20 to more than tripling in cost...something to think about.

Looking forward to seeing more info and hopefully get the book soon, expensive though it may be. If it's the size of something like Grey Wolf/Red Bear from Flames of War or the 4th/5th ed rulebooks, I'll be fine with the cost. If it's $65 for a hardcover 100 page book, I'll be a wee bit peeved.

Didn't i see someone say 50% price hiek for the 'dex? So if they're £20 now that would make them £30.

the fanstasy ones are hardbacks and they are £27.50 at the moment.

ergotoxin wrote:Huge Fiend reminds me even more of a dinosaur :( There's nothing worse than a kid-friendly approach for chaos, and these new vehicles seem to be a severe case of that.

I'm inclined to agree. To me, much of this new stuff looks like toys, rather than Daemonic Engines crafted from the darkest recesses of emotion and the greatest badasses in the galaxy.

I'd much rather there were more things like that produced by Forgeworld, than this new stuff for Chaos*.
*Although I say this as someone that likes the Defiler.

I much prefer the Decimator over anything shown here:

According to today's blog - 'A Storm Is Coming!' -
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=4300002

Anyone want to buy the 1500 points in chaos i bought with the anticipation of the new dex?

Obviously, that bits and bobs of the Dragon in that video.

So, Pre-Order hits Friday?

 Deathshead420 wrote:
Anyone want to buy the 1500 points in chaos i bought with the anticipation of the new dex?

I'll give you $20 shipped.

 pretre wrote:

 Deathshead420 wrote:
Anyone want to buy the 1500 points in chaos i bought with the anticipation of the new dex?

I'll give you $20 shipped.

I'll give you 21.50, plus shipping

Too rich for my blood. I'll wait for all the other early quitters.

I think all of the infantry models look pretty good, with the exception of the terrible heads on the oblits (between generally having a mountain of extra heads in the bits box and a billion aftermarket manufacturers this shouldn't be an issue for long), and the...things hanging off the sides of the warp talon jump packs (snip-file-fixed).

The fiends look okay. Not particularly inspired by them, but not completely turned off either. The helldrake...they really should have just done a hellblade or similar. I don't think it's terrible, but there are a lot of aesthetics on it that simply don't work for me, like the wing design.

I won 10 bucks from someone because a video came out.

Yay!

Oblits are horrid
Fiends look bad too
Dragon is... Making me want a storm talon instead!!
Techmarine, warp talons and sorceror not bad.

I think like a lot of people i loved the new chosen look and detail so its a shame we didn't get more of the same.

I think i'll be work on my loyalist for a while...

Hrm, looking at some of the new rules for the daemon engines...I'm wondering if Kelly has read the 6E vehicle rules at all. Unless the Defiler got radically overhauled, it was already considered overcosted in 4th and 5th and it just got a nearly 33% cost increase, and the new daemon engines are significantly more expensive than similar units, while being drastically easier to kill in the new edition. This does not bode well.

Those daemon engines, unless we're really missing something, are going to die very quickly and cost as much or more than leman russ tanks while performing much the same role.

I wont be an early quitter, I will just have to figure out how to make some of this fit into my army.

I just wished GW had not had their modelers take mescaline before making the new stuff.

I'll buy the dex for 50 bucks as long as somewhere in its pages reads the sentence. "Treat all vehicles as having the Assualt Vehicle special rule." I'm looking at you Korny Zerkerz.

 Vaktathi wrote:
Hrm, looking at some of the new rules for the daemon engines...

You mean rumored rules for daemon engines or was there another leak?

 Brometheus wrote:

Thats awesome there isn't just WAR in the 41st century...... there are also Gobots!!!!!!

 pretre wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
Hrm, looking at some of the new rules for the daemon engines...

You mean rumored rules for daemon engines or was there another leak?

Yeah... What rules are you talking about?

 pretre wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
Hrm, looking at some of the new rules for the daemon engines...

You mean rumored rules for daemon engines or was there another leak?

Rumored rules of course. If they're accurate, it's worrying, I'm hoping there's stuff about them we haven't seen yet, because a nearly 200pt AV12 gun platform in 6E is going to have a difficult time earning its keep I fear, and similarly costed CC platforms certainly won't.

 pretre wrote:

Wow, GW must have bought some ancient sound FX library. I heard a Muton death scream from the original X-com in there!

brettz123 wrote:
Thats awesome there isn't just WAR in the 41st century...... there are also Gobots!!!!!!

Way to quote that whole pic just to say something that's been said about a million times in the last 20-30 pages. /highfive

 Vaktathi wrote:

You mean rumored rules for daemon engines or was there another leak?

Rumored rules of course. If they're accurate, it's worrying, I'm hoping there's stuff about them we haven't seen yet, because a nearly 200pt AV12 gun platform in 6E is going to have a difficult time earning its keep I fear, and similarly costed CC platforms certainly won't.

Yeah, give it a couple days/weeks. Just as people were freaking out that the only chaos releases were the ones we saw yesterday, worry about rules prematurely will only bring woe.

 pretre wrote:
Way to quote that whole pic just to say something that's been said about a million times in the last 20-30 pages. /highfive

I just wanted you to see that awful thing one more time.....

Rolls eyes at teaser trailer

There are new pics up on Faeit212 of Angron, Dark Apostle, Aspiring Champion, a better warpsmith photo, and an aspiring champ.

 Flashman wrote:
Rolls eyes at teaser trailer

They may as well have had Matrix style text scrolling down the bottom reading

'Buy our £40 flyer.'

They flashed it so many times in that clip that it felt like a rave.

 VermGho5t wrote:
There are new pics up on Faeit212 of Angron, Dark Apostle, Aspiring Champion, a better warpsmith photo, and an aspiring champ.

You mean the ones we posted a couple pages back from Warseer?

 VermGho5t wrote:
There are new pics up on Faeit212 of Angron, Dark Apostle, Aspiring Champion, a better warpsmith photo, and an aspiring champ.

There on here too

EDIT - Ninja'd! Tips hat at Pretre

Is there still going to be a second wave, do we have any rumours on what might be in it? As Kroot said before what is shown is not all that is being released.

Anyone got anything?