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 Kroothawk wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Source on the digital bit?

White Dwarf. Guess that's a new category in your rumour tracking thread

lol nice. Hadn't seen that yet.

Couldn't see this posted anywhere in this thread (prob in an FW one) -



I think the term is 'EPIC'

 Kroothawk wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Source on the digital bit?

White Dwarf. Guess that's a new category in your rumour tracking thread

Bazinga!

Will be sticking with my old school oblits....these are horrid as were the last

 bubber wrote:
Couldn't see this posted anywhere in this thread (prob in an FW one) -



I think the term is 'EPIC'

Wow... just wow...

Would that be Angron?

Cyrax wrote:

BramGaunt from Warseer wrote:...
There are only 4 psychic powers per God, sadly.
If you upgrade your Demon prince to a specific god he gains hatred for the opposed chaos god

A posessed vehicle ignores stinned an shaken on 2+, but if a unit embarks you have to roll a D6 : on a roll of 1 you lose a random member if the squad and the vehicle regains 1hp
Obliterators can morph assault cannons

I think those are neat colorful rules on the possessed vehicle... Oblits with assault cannons, really?-hmmm

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:

 bubber wrote:
Couldn't see this posted anywhere in this thread (prob in an FW one) -

Spoiler:

I think the term is 'EPIC'

Wow... just wow...

Would that be Angron?

This is discussed in the Forge World Thread as it's part of the HH release.

That is Angron with Gorechild and Gorefather.

is it me or this this stuff just look really childish i know we wanted non space marines with spikes but it all looks abit like those really C!**P toys you get from china lol the techmarine guy looks cool but they look like the dinobots on crack

Just a Codex and Cards for me, prices are silly high and there is not a single model I want from the new stuff yet. I'll get by on my bitz box and current collection one way or another.

I feel like this release is a missed opportunity in many ways for GW, perhaps I am just getting jaded in my old age but I hope there is something in wave 2 worth the new prices. I'd sooner buy FW stuff now since the prices are so close.

Clean up aisle four, aka my pants!!!!!

What can I say? What actually can I say?

Forgeworld HH, new Codex CSM (may not be complete awesomeness, but its already looking better than the tripe we've currently got).

As a long term CSM player (talking 12+ years now). This saturday is a day we've been waiting for since they did away with the 3.5 codex.

And everyone remember. Angron is the midget among Primarchs

Oh, and since we're looking at like $50 for the codex here in the US I'm going to be forced to take a wait and see for what I want

Are those some new Chosen as well? I'm loving the new minis.

by the way i didnt mean the angron model lol thas is amazing XD

So am I to assumes that we won't be getting a new CSM troop box? I saw the picture of what looks like a tactical squad with a new champion, but the champion could have easily been converted. Such a shame if we won't be getting new basic troops, as the current ones are kind of showing thier age.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:
So.. the brass scorpion doesn't look like an animal at all, either?

Come on... this has been the chaos style for some time, it's actually quite retro if you go back and look at all the old Epic Chaos stuff.

I like how they're giving Chaos some unique styling and sculpts rather than "grab X marine thing and add spikes" that has been the default for too long.

No. It doesn't. And it isn't.

The Brass Scorpion is mechanical, with big plates of armour and hinges and metal spikes and gun barrels and claws. It's underside is a mess of cabling and the odd corpse sticking out. It's a mechanical construction inhabited by a Daemon. Ditto for the Blight Drone. The Blood Slaughterer. The Decimator. The Defiler. And so on. The Epic Daemon Engines? They were all giant tanks (in the case of Khorne), wooden contraptions with flesh stretched across them (Nurgle), flying metallic birds (Tzeentch) or giant robot walker thingies (Slaanesh). Even the Soul Grinder makes sense, because it's basically an 'unbound Defiler', with obvious mechanical origins and a daemon melded from the waist down.

The Maulerfiend is a big xeno-creature wearing weird armour. It is nothing like the rest. Even the Dragon fits more with Chaos than the Maulerfiend.

Don't make me pull out my dictionary again, claiming it is nothing like previous Chaos offerings is going beyond disingenuous to borderline dishonest. Even leaving aside that flesh/daemon/machine hybrid creatures of this type have been a feature of the setting's fiction for quite a wee while now and limiting the comparison to the models, there are evident and numerous similarities. Literally the only difference in the armour styling, for example, is that it's a bit more rounded. As for the organic components; did you forget Obliterators? Rogue Trade-era Dreadnoughts?

You can choose not to like these new models, but stop pretending that it's some monstrous and unjustifiable departure from the Chaos aesthetic designed to sell Power Rangers toys to Little Jimmy, if for no other reason than you're going to hurt yourself if you keep twisting and contorting like that.

As a point I don't believe those are actually the obliterators we're used too. The rumours said we would be treated to combat specific obliterators and long range variants. Those look like the former. I doubt it will happen, but we can hope to get some better long range types.

Overall, these are a big disappointment. Dark Vengeance Chaos stuff was amazing, and even the best of this new batch doesn't come even close to that level.

I like the concept of the daemon engines, and I like the biomechanical direction they're going with them, but the fiends are just a bit lacking. They look like warmahordes stuff, and I never liked how that game looked. Heads are silly and legs too skinny compared to the massive upper bodies. However, there are a lot of nice bits there, and I'm sure we'll soon enough see how people will convert these into something terrific. These kits have potential.

Obliterators are just sad though. There's no saving them.

The only problem I see with the Obliterators is the heads. Is a head swap really that big a deal, guys?

Rogue Trader Era Chaos Dreadnought


These new Daemon Engines seem like a throwback to Rogue Trader era Chaos, just like a lot of 6th edition rules are a throwback to then as well. That thing looks very organic and mechanized at the same time.

Well that dark apostle is not so bad... and that warpsmith looks like he has some awesome bits on him. Also I think the gun-arms of the dinobot are it's best feature... those should fetch a good price on bitz sites...

...btw guys I can scratchbuild close combat oblits for $$$ just pm me let me know...

Oh myyy... this has just made my day! So stoked for the Chaos release now! Still a shame that there have been no Plague Marines sighted tho. These new sculpts are definitely Dark Vengeance level

Samurai_Eduh wrote:
So am I to assumes that we won't be getting a new CSM troop box? I saw the picture of what looks like a tactical squad with a new champion, but the champion could have easily been converted. Such a shame if we won't be getting new basic troops, as the current ones are kind of showing thier age.

The only talk of new CSM troops came from wishlisting, not legitimate rumors.

I think the model you are referring to is the new sorcerer with the black legion CSMs?

Honestly, and this is a little depressing to admit, but I think the plastic Aspiring Champion is the released I'm most excited about. Although, not because I actually want or need that model, but between that single character being plastic and the single frame plastic DV chaplain, it means we might finally be getting the single sprue plastic characters that Fantasy has been getting for the past 12-18 months.

Really disappointed in Finecast CC obliterators. They look awful, and just means a dual plastic obliterator kit is very unlikely any time soon. The only purchase I'm making is the codex. I have 2 sets of DV models that are awesome, so unless we see a second wave of Havocs and characters, it's going to be a cheap release for me. Looks like any new units I add from here will be with FW models, and at the prices listed on the plastic kits, I wouldn't be spending much more to go that route.

 RecycledGenius wrote:
Oh myyy... this has just made my day! So stoked for the Chaos release now! Still a shame that there have been no Plague Marines sighted tho. These new sculpts are definitely Dark Vengeance level

I'm stoked too, man. I really don't get all the hate in this thread. I'm just sad we aren't getting new chaos marine models. Oh well. My wallet will hate me this weekend.

The only problem I see with the Obliterators is the heads. Is a head swap really that big a deal, guys?

it kinda is when the bow set will cost about £30 lol but like i said just my opinion they all look like kids toys from poundland
the juggernaut looked good and i guess thats what these are based on but its too far and i couldnt agree more the basic troops are getting on abit now and dont fit in with this new style wich is a

Is there anyway to know if this in only the first wave release or is this the full release? I hope that there is more coming after this, because it seems to be completely lacking/disjointed for a first army/codex of the new edition.

Nvs wrote:
I honestly can't believe how terrible the Thousand Sons have turned out for another edition now. I'm sorry, but S&P/R isn't that valuable for the unit when you consider they all have bolters anyway with the new rapid fire rules. They're still horribly overpriced for what they bring to the table even with AP3 bolters.

And what's Icon of Fire? Is that just what gives them soulfire? So that isn't even a free upgrade? Come on... they're crap. And there's probably nothing else in the book with a Tzeentch flare other than the HQ choice.

For shame.

Have you seen the codex? How do you know how good they will be? Because of rumors on the internet by people you don't even know exist?

 Darth Bob wrote:
The only problem I see with the Obliterators is the heads. Is a head swap really that big a deal, guys?

It is not just the heads. It is not that they look much worse than the old ones, but those were horrible too. They're terminators with badly sculpted, (supposedly) fleshy goo smeared on random places. Even though I'm not the biggest fan of the maulerfiend, at least there the merging of the flesh and machine has been executed well. And after the DV chosen, my hopes for new CC-oblis were a bit higher than: 'not much worse than the old obliterators.'

Holy crap, the kids TP'd the apostle again....

The CC oblits are literally the same base models as the current ones with spikes and claws instead of guns, and new, worse looking heads. If you look closely you can see the legs and shoulderpads(sans new spikes) are identical to the current shooty oblits.