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Salvos been consistently rumored for a long time, so no surprise there. What I don't get is why Sonic Blasters stop defensive fire within 6". You can't assault after firing Sonic Blasters, so why would you be within 6"?
Also is it S5 or not?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Salvo = can't charge, additionally the range is halved if you move and shoot. Huge nerf. I wouldn't say it "hasn't changed at all." Looks like Kelly hates all Chaos Gods equally.

I wouldn't say that just yet, with the exception of the noise marines Slaanesh seems to have come out pretty well with its I5 FNP Terminators.

 Sersi wrote:
Salvos been consistently rumored for a long time, so no surprise there. What I don't get is why Sonic Blasters stop defensive fire within 6". You can't assault after firing Sonic Blasters, so why would you be within 6"?
Also is it S5 or not?

I think that is only the vehicle upgrade Sonic Blaster that stops defensive fire within 6".
It is not S5
I am hoping they left our Doom Sirens alone.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

 Rivet wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Flakk Missiles confirmed in the summary sheet.

Hades is 36" S8 AP4 Heavy 4 Pinning

Sonic Blaster is 24" Salvo 2/3, Ignore Cover. Quite a blow.

Wait, Salvo... so can we not assault after firing the Sonic Blaster now? Or am I getting my rules confused?

it means it shoot x when you move and x when stationary, it hasnt changed at all, all they did was add on ignore cover and possibly str5 ap4

No, it does indeed mean that you cannot charge after firing.
I doubt its S5 AP4 ignores cover. That would be insane.

yeah just looked at salvo rule... it sucks mighty ass, heres hoping the special snowflakes (GK) get there psycannons FAQ to be salvo.

As to the possible str5 ap4, well thats just my blur recognisation, till the book comes out and we can actually see the STR/AP without having to squint... it will remin just a possiblility

All the walkers are 12/12/10, as well as the Heldrake. No other new vehicles. The new walkers all have 3 HP, WS 3, BS 3.

Can we have a better pic of the white dwarf codex pages? I can't see a thing.

sooo, Has CSM dropped proper dreads for hellbrutes, or is it just a name change?

Damn. If its vehicle only its kinda like a ghetto Warp Amp I guess. The Doom Siren is supposed to have remained unchanged. Is the Blastmaster listed? did it get Ignore Cover?

Woohoo my tactics of charging everything and going after the strongest things possible no matter the odds is finally being rewarded, bring on dat boon table.

Just realized something.

+1 Armour on the boon chart

Terminator 2+ armor

Combined they equal 1+?

yo axes I'm blessed by the chaos gods!

Massive update to the rumor tracker. Great job on translating the scans.

Chaos Spawn profile is unchanged.

Warp Talons have a basic CSM profile including A1.

Oh just seen some upgrader kits on warseer.

TS gear, sonic weapons and night lords pads and heads to name a few

edit: finecast of metal kits but still nice

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Just realized something.

+1 Armour

Terminator 2+ armor

Combined they equal 1+?

yo axes I'm blessed by the chaos gods.

haha 1+ save in 40k.. nice

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Just realized something.

+1 Armour

Terminator 2+ armor

Combined they equal 1+?

yo axes I'm blessed by the chaos gods!

Main rulebook says no 1+

Not sure if this has been asked or posted yet but, Will there be new terminator models in maybe a 2nd wave? Or maybe a new chaos marine box? I'm only asking due to holding off on buying anything before i know whats being released.

 pretre wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Just realized something.

+1 Armour

Terminator 2+ armor

Combined they equal 1+?

yo axes I'm blessed by the chaos gods!

Main rulebook says no 1+

Ah that's a pity, was hoping that you'd need railguns to penetrate that armor.

 Arrathon wrote:
Not sure if this has been asked or posted yet but, Will there be new terminator models in maybe a 2nd wave? Or maybe a new chaos marine box? I'm only asking due to holding off on buying anything before i know whats being released.

I think CSM plastic and Termies plastic will stay as they are...
Bahh.. Do we have some better scan pics from the WD?

That codex picture shows no new Kharn, Typhus, Lucius or Ahriman sculpts.

Four entries in Elites have 2 attacks base that are not Characters.

Berserkers, Possesssed, Chosen, Manglers would be my guess. Interestingly there aren't any A3 at all, meaning the Possessed Champion lost an attack.

How the hell are you supposed to use sonic blasters now? I suspect they want you to use them to kill orks or anything else with a 5+/6+ save, but other than that, nope.

On the Daemon Princes Stats... Where can they go with the Greater Daemons when then get their update? The point costs will be absurd.

 pretre wrote:
That codex picture shows no new Kharn, Typhus, Lucius or Ahriman sculpts.

Yes and zerkers TK sons noise and plague marine models are the same.
So we are going probably fine cast for them. And zerkers will stay plastic prob.

 Sersi wrote:
On the Daemon Princes Stats... Where can they go with the Greater Daemons when then get their update? The point costs will be absurd.

Hopefully higher! Since we seem to be making a return to Realms of Chaos, I'm banking on the Bloodthirsters being WS10 BS10 S7 T7 W10 I10 A10.

I'm loving the WS9 of the Daemon Prince, meaning those pesky Marine terminators will be hitting me on a 5+.

However the best part about this codex in my eyes is that it forces your opponent to make a choice between using a throwaway sergeant or not accepting the challenge and letting your champions run amok in the enemy squad.

@vlad: And if you give up a throwaway sergeant, that champion might get even more badass with boons!

 pretre wrote:
@vlad: And if you give up a throwaway sergeant, that champion might get even more badass with boons!

So...your lowly champion has a chance to become a demon prince after killing some sergeant? That's pretty hilarious.
What if you don't have a DP model though?

 pretre wrote:
@vlad: And if you give up a throwaway sergeant, that champion might get even more badass with boons!

We still don't have the old veteran champions rules right?
If we had it too and withheld oon table sergeants would be mini lords

Ok so dose anyone know if we will get deathclaw drop pods in a second wave perhaps? Or anything more new that we have not seen in model but maybe in codex?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 pretre wrote:
@vlad: And if you give up a throwaway sergeant, that champion might get even more badass with boons!

So...your lowly champion has a chance to become a demon prince after killing some sergeant? That's pretty hilarious.
What if you don't have a DP model though?

Same as all those 'replace a model' rules, he dies or it doesn't happen.

make sure you have a spare Daemon Prince or 5.

Dark Apostle and Warpguy are both W2 HQs, which will be pretty annoying unless you can take multiples in one slot.

There is a Power Scourge in the melee weapon list. S8 AP2 and a special rule I don't understand. Thunderhammers are in!