Racists are pathetic- anyone else think this way?

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**whembly**

Cheesecat wrote:
MadEdric wrote:
Wow.. can we also agree that water is wet?
What's the point of this thread besides making yourself feel better by stating that you despise the despised?

Pretty much, you hate racists? Congratulations for being an ordinary human being in Western society.

Agreed... sometimes I feel like its bandied about because that person doesn't want to have a real discussion... it'll devolve into this:

**Samus_aran115**

I admit I'm guilty of profiling a bit while walking on the street. The don't have to be black for me to be wary of them though. I'd be more nervous if a white guy with a tattoo on his face gave me a funny look than a black guy with a tattoo on his face gave me a funny look. I could be robbed by either of them. Or by anyone of any other distinction. People are people.

The only people who I totally overlook are women, and guys in khakis. I wonder how many people have been viciously murdered by guys wearing khakis with a polo tucked into it?

**Kovnik Obama**

Samus_aran115 wrote:
I admit I'm guilty of profiling a bit while walking on the street. The don't have to be black for me to be wary of them though. I'd be more nervous if a white guy with a tattoo on his face gave me a funny look than a black guy with a tattoo on his face gave me a funny look. I could be robbed by either of them. Or by anyone of any other distinction. People are people.

I don't really understand how 'profiling=racist'.

If you have an empirical study that tells you that you have a much higher chance of getting jumped by x than by y in said area, why shouldn't you feel more wary about meeting unknown x in said area?

**LoneLictor**

Kovnik Obama wrote:
Samus_aran wrote:I admit I'm guilty of profiling a bit while walking on the street. The don't have to be black for me to be wary of them though. I'd be more nervous if a white guy with a tattoo on his face gave me a funny look than a black guy with a tattoo on his face gave me a funny look. I could be robbed by either of them. Or by anyone of any other distinction. People are people.

I don't really understand how 'profiling=racist'.

If you have an empirical study that tells you that you have a much higher chance of getting jumped by x than by y in said area, why shouldn't you feel more wary about meeting unknown x in said area?

Whether or not racial profiling works depends on whether or not you believe the justice system works. Most liberals (myself included), believe that the justice system is highly biased against non-white people. Just because it convicts more black people doesn't mean black people are inherently bad.

**Samus_aran115**

Kovnik Obama wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
I admit I'm guilty of profiling a bit while walking on the street. The don't have to be black for me to be wary of them though. I'd be more nervous if a white guy with a tattoo on his face gave me a funny look than a black guy with a tattoo on his face gave me a funny look. I could be robbed by either of them. Or by anyone of any other distinction. People are people.

I don't really understand how 'profiling=racist'.

If you have an empirical study that tells you that you have a much higher chance of getting jumped by x than by y in said area, why shouldn't you feel more wary about meeting unknown x in said area?

You're thinking about this too much. I was just thinking about my own behavior, and how I make the distinction between racism and just normal profiling. I'm not saying profiling is racist at all.

**Kovnik Obama**

LoneLictor wrote:

Whether or not racial profiling works depends on whether or not you believe the justice system works. Most liberals (myself included), believe that the justice system is highly biased against non-white people. Just because it convicts more black people doesn't mean black people are inherently bad.

Ah, possibly. Well, certainly, I've seen first hand how some of my friends were targetted by cops simply due to different skin colour.
The sad thing being they most often were guilty of what they were under suspicion off, weither or not they got caught. But it still means that as many whitey might have been committing the same crimes and wouldn't have been suspected.

And it's not a question 'inherent badness', more a question of different social pressures. If those empirical studies are valid, assuming the liberal criticism is wrong (which it probably isn't), then it would be imprudent on the part of any subject not to act upon the information it gives. Of course, that's on a personnal level. On the macroscale, the question becomes 'what can be done to positively affect this social group?'

**Inquisitor Ehrenstein**

Anyone think it will ever be legal to hunt racists?

One of two possiblities:

1) We classify them legally as mentally slowed
2) We make them legally game animals

And I'm sick of people trying to claim that we should fight Nazis without violence. Go back to WWII and see how that works; we didn't do it then, I don't see why now has to be any different. The fact is, that at the minimum, they are traitors to the state because they are supporting a foreign military that declared war on the United States. There is no reason they shouldn't be executed for that alone. They are killing people, and we sit around getting bullgak from Closet-Nazi-Hippies who claim that they have some sort of devine right to what they do.

The way to a more peaceful world is to stamp these fethers out! Organize a Jewish Protection Echelon. Such an organization would not have to be made up of Jews, but anyone who would be willing to return the brutality that is the only thing the Nazis respect. We'll see how the Nazis react when there's a JSS instead of everyone just taking it.

How does a Nazi steal a bike? Picks it up and runs.

What do you call 10,000 Nazis at the bottom of the sea? A good start.

Inglorious basterds glorifies animal cruelty.

Arthur Harris was a Nazi baker.

Who do you call to get rid of Nazis? An exterminator.

What do you use to get rid of Nazis? Insecticide.

A lot of this may have intentionally been over the top.

But seriously...

...

And thank you to Hitler for helping us win the war. Proof of racist intelligence.

I know what you're thinking; I need to start an anti racist blog.

**Testify**

Not sure what the point of this thread is. People can't really disagree since racism is against the dakka rules. So you have a premise that is against the forum's rules to disagree with...are we all supposed to simply agree?

**Cheesecat**

Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Anyone think it will ever be legal to hunt racists?

One of two possiblities:

1) We classify them legally as mentally slowed
2) We make them legally game animals

And I'm sick of people trying to claim that we should fight Nazis without violence. Go back to WWII and see how that works; we didn't do it then, I don't see why now has to be any different. The fact is, that at the minimum, they are traitors to the state because they are supporting a foreign military that declared war on the United States. There is no reason they shouldn't be executed for that alone. They are killing people, and we sit around getting bullgak from Closet-Nazi-Hippies who claim that they have some sort of devine right to what they do.

The way to a more peaceful world is to stamp these fethers out! Organize a Jewish Protection Echelon. Such an organization would not have to be made up of Jews, but anyone who would be willing to return the brutality that is the only thing the Nazis respect. We'll see how the Nazis react when there's a JSS instead of everyone just taking it.

How does a Nazi steal a bike? Picks it up and runs.

What do you call 10,000 Nazis at the bottom of the sea? A good start.

Inglorious basterds glorifies animal cruelty.

Arthur Harris was a Nazi baker.

Who do you call to get rid of Nazis? An exterminator.

What do you use to get rid of Nazis? Insecticide.

A lot of this may have intentionally been over the top. But seriously...

...

And thank you to Hitler for helping us win the war. Proof of racist intelligence.

I know what you're thinking; I need to start an anti racist blog.

I didn't know Nazism is so prevalent in your country.

**LoneLictor**

Testify wrote:
Not sure what the point of this thread is. People can't really disagree since racism is against the dakka rules. So you have a premise that is against the forum's rules to disagree with...are we all supposed to simply agree?

Nah, I think the point of this thread is to argue over what's racist and what's not, rather than is racism bad or not.

People should start yelling at each other about...

1. Racial profiling

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2. Affirmative Action

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3. Disproportionate Prison Statistics

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4. Monocles

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5. Welfare

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6. The fact that the cast of most TV shows are almost entirely white.

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7. Political Correctness

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8. The term 'African American' vs the term 'Black'.

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9. Whether or not the phrase 'chink in the armor' is an extremely racist saying about the Chinese.

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10. The Siamese Cats from The Lady and the Tramp.

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11. Birther theories

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12. Lack of black women in porn

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13. The movie Space Jam.

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14. The Amish

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15. The story of Cain and Able in the Bible.

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16. Confederate Flags

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17. People who say 'everyone is racist'

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18. Mitt Romney

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19. Ayn Rand

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20. Sports teams names.

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**Cheesecat**

Testify wrote:
Not sure what the point of this thread is. People can't really disagree since racism is against the dakka rules. So you have a premise that is against the forum's rules to disagree with...are we all supposed to simply agree?

Maybe the point of the thread is that since Inquisitor Ehrenstein can't go five posts without referencing Nazis's he's/she's worried someone might think he/she is a racist, so Inquisitor Ehrenstein is here to clear any misconceptions about being a racist.

**Kovnik Obama**

Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Anyone think it will ever be legal to hunt racists?

One of two possiblities:

1) We classify them legally as mentally slowed
2) We make them legally game animals

Going back to Roman era morals won't really make us any superior to them. In fact, you exemplify a quite strange conundrum ; racism against racists. Good going there.

And I'm sick of people trying to claim that we should fight Nazis without violence.

Well at least we agree on this. Go join an anti-facho group, I'm sure there's one in your city.

The fact is, that at the minimum, they are traitors to the state because they are supporting a foreign military that declared war on the United States. There is no reason they shouldn't be executed for that alone.

Well, huh, yes, there are many reasons. All the reasons against death penalty, for starters.

They are killing people, and we sit around getting bullgak from Closet-Nazi-Hippies who claim that they have some sort of devine right to what they do.

Wait, what, who?

Organize a Jewish Protection Echelon.

Already exists, there are jewish security organisations in my area. They don't go hunting racists, mind you. They're just a confessionnal neighbourhood watch.

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LoneLictor wrote:
12. Lack of black women in porn

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Only a little bit racist

You are not looking enough.

19. Ayn Rand

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Can't tell if racist or stupid. Possibly both. Must remember to investigate further.

Well, certainly stupid. I mean, there's no fething doubt about that. I'm really sad that a nice little term like 'objectivism' got spoiled to crap by this fethhead. But can you be racists against a moral character? Like ''Social workers really are an inferior race''?

Fething Russians. HA! See what I did there?

**Inquisitor Ehrenstein**

Kovnik Obama wrote:
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Anyone think it will ever be legal to hunt racists?

One of two possiblities:

1) We classify them legally as mentally slowed
2) We make them legally game animals

Going back to Roman era morals won't really make us any superior to them. In fact, you exemplify a quite strange conundrum ; racism against racists. Good going there.

First, this is mostly a joke. Second, in what way is this "racist?"

**Kovnik Obama**

Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:

First, this is mostly a joke. Second, in what way is this "racist?"

Classifying someone as worthy of being hunted for fun pretty much allows the inference that you are considering them inferior on an natural level. Racism isn't just about displaying hatred toward a group that is colloquially described as a race, it's also the entire mindset that allows you to attribute superiority and inferiority on entire groups and create a divide between humans, based on their nature.

**Cheesecat**

Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Anyone think it will ever be legal to hunt racists?

One of two possiblities:

1) We classify them legally as mentally slowed
2) We make them legally game animals

Going back to Roman era morals won't really make us any superior to them. In fact, you exemplify a quite strange conundrum ; racism against racists. Good going there.

First, this is mostly a joke. Second, in what way is this "racist?"

But using hyperbole all the time isn't funny, it just makes one look delusional.

**Kovnik Obama**

Cheesecat wrote:

But using hyperbole all the time isn't funny, it just makes one look delusional.

Also, WTF? Where are all the Nazi up here in Canada? The Golden Dawn bs in here was shocking just because it was completely unexpected... ?

**Cheesecat**

Kovnik Obama wrote:
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:

First, this is mostly a joke. Second, in what way is this "racist?"

Classifying someone as worthy of being hunted for fun pretty much allows the inference that you are considering them inferior on an natural level. Racism isn't just about displaying hatred toward a group that is colloquially described as a race, it's also the entire mindset that allows you to attribute superiority and inferiority on entire groups and create a divide between humans, based on their nature.

What you described is more prejudice, discrimination, bias, condescension, etc racists aren't the only people who do this you know. Your description could describe antisemitism, anti-theism, atheism, theism, extreme patriotism, ageism, sexism, creationism, homophobia, evolutionism etc

basically anything that you can have show pride, fear, hate, disgust, bigotry and/or love towards.

**Kovnik Obama**

Cheesecat wrote:
What you described is more prejudice, discrimination, bias, condescension, etc racists aren't the only people who do this you know. Your description could describe antisemitism, anti-theism, atheism, theism, extreme patriotism, ageism, sexism, creationism, homophobia, evolutionism etc

basically anything that you can have show pride, fear, hate, disgust, bigotry and/or love towards.

I can discriminate, be condescending, etc, because I rationnaly have come to the conclusion that the lifestyle in question is less than optimal. I can think (and possibly be correct) that being a SOCIALIIIIIIIISTS is a proof of your stupidity (I don't). That's not racism, because it doesn't construct a group by natural conditions.

I'll give you sexism and homophobia ; I've always felt they, with racism, came down from the same inability to cope with evident difference.

Anyway, I think this goes more to show that I don't think the term race is appropriate when describing humans, and is pretty much 'sinnlos'.

Anyway, Ehrenstein, have you red Neuman's Behemoth?

**Cheesecat**

Kovnik Obama wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
What you described is more prejudice, discrimination, bias, condescension, etc racists aren't the only people who do this you know. Your description could describe antisemitism, anti-theism, atheism, theism, extreme patriotism, ageism, sexism, creationism, homophobia, evolutionism etc

basically anything that you can have show pride, fear, hate, disgust, bigotry and/or love towards.

I can discriminate, be condescending, etc, because I rationnaly have come to the conclusion that the lifestyle in question is less than optimal. I can think (and possibly be correct) that being a SOCIALIIIIIIIISTS is a proof of your stupidity (I don't). That's not racism, because it doesn't construct a group by natural conditions.

I'll give you sexism and homophobia ; I've always felt they, with racism, came down from the same inability to cope with evident difference.

Anyway, I think this goes more to show that I don't think the term race is appropriate when describing humans, and is pretty much 'sinnlos'.

Anyway, Ehrenstein, have you red Neuman's Behemoth?

I guess this is something we'll have to agree to disagree, to me racism is just racial discrimination nothing more or less.

**Inquisitor Ehrenstein**

Cheesecat wrote:
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Anyone think it will ever be legal to hunt racists?

One of two possiblities:

1) We classify them legally as mentally slowed
2) We make them legally game animals

Going back to Roman era morals won't really make us any superior to them. In fact, you exemplify a quite strange conundrum ; racism against racists. Good going there.

First, this is mostly a joke. Second, in what way is this "racist?"

But using hyperbole all the time isn't funny, it just makes one look delusional.

That's why I try to take the time to point it out.

And this isn't a Canadian problem, this is an American problem.

You should able to find the documentary Hate.com that has plenty of examples. There's also the Oklahoma City bombing that was planned by a Nazi, and set at the exact time as a bomb in a Nazi novel.

**Cheesecat**

Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Anyone think it will ever be legal to hunt racists?

One of two possiblities:

1) We classify them legally as mentally slowed
2) We make them legally game animals

Going back to Roman era morals won't really make us any superior to them. In fact, you exemplify a quite strange conundrum ; racism against racists. Good going there.

First, this is mostly a joke. Second, in what way is this "racist?"

But using hyperbole all the time isn't funny, it just makes one look delusional.

That's why I try to take the time to point it out.

If you have to explain to people your joke is a joke then I think the humour in it failed.

**Inquisitor Ehrenstein**

Cheesecat wrote:
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Anyone think it will ever be legal to hunt racists?

One of two possiblities:

1) We classify them legally as mentally slowed
2) We make them legally game animals

Going back to Roman era morals won't really make us any superior to them. In fact, you exemplify a quite strange conundrum ; racism against racists. Good going there.

First, this is mostly a joke. Second, in what way is this "racist?"

But using hyperbole all the time isn't funny, it just makes one look delusional.

That's why I try to take the time to point it out.

If you have to explain to people your joke is a joke then I think the humour in it failed.

It's not always intended to be funny, but it's just how I feel at the moment.

**Testify**

Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:

That's why I try to take the time to point it out.

And this isn't a Canadian problem, this is an American problem.

You should able to find the documentary Hate.com that has plenty of examples. There's also the Oklahoma City bombing that was planned by a Nazi, and set at the exact time as a bomb in a Nazi novel.

Islamic terrorism dwarfs the threat posed by far-right terrorism.
So does nationalist terrorism.

**JohnnoM**

Those of you who think racist is bad should come live here in Australia. Specifically, far northern queensland. If you live here for a year or two, you will understand.

**LoneLictor**

Testify wrote:
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:

That's why I try to take the time to point it out.

And this isn't a Canadian problem, this is an American problem.

You should able to find the documentary Hate.com that has plenty of examples. There's also the Oklahoma City bombing that was planned by a Nazi, and set at the exact time as a bomb in a Nazi novel.

Islamic terrorism dwarfs the threat posed by far-right terrorism.
So does nationalist terrorism.

Right wing terrorism is a legit problem though.

**Cheesecat**

Testify wrote:
Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:

That's why I try to take the time to point it out.

And this isn't a Canadian problem, this is an American problem.

You should able to find the documentary Hate.com that has plenty of examples. There's also the Oklahoma City bombing that was planned by a Nazi, and set at the exact time as a bomb in a Nazi novel.

Islamic terrorism dwarfs the threat posed by far-right terrorism.
So does nationalist terrorism.

I'm pretty sure Islamic terrorism is on the far right wing on the left/right wing scale of politics.

**Testify**

LoneLictor wrote:
Right wing terrorism is a legit problem though.

Yeah but the main sources of terrorism worldwide is overwealmingly Islamic or nationalistic.

Cheesecat wrote:
I'm pretty sure Islamic terrorism is on the far right wing on the left/right wing scale of politics.

True.

**Kovnik Obama**

Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:

And this isn't a Canadian problem, this is an American problem.

Well, I guess I got confused by the little red rag next to your picture (props to anyone who can pin down the reference)

You should able to find the documentary Hate.com that has plenty of examples. There's also the Oklahoma City bombing that was planned by a Nazi, and set at the exact time as a bomb in a Nazi novel.

Okay, now, can we agree that most (and by this I mean just about all) racists aren't fascist who will kill people for their beleifs?
Lovecraft was a racist, he even made jew jokes in front of his (jewish) wife. Still, he was reported to be appaled by the reports of deportation and mass killings.

**Monster Rain**

Cheesecat wrote:
If you have to explain to people your joke is a joke then I think the humour in it failed.

Very, very true.

This should be in the welcome to Dakka sticky.

**Luco**

Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Anyone think it will ever be legal to hunt racists?

One of two possiblities:

1) We classify them legally as mentally slowed
2) We make them legally game animals

And I'm sick of people trying to claim that we should fight Nazis without violence. Go back to WWII and see how that works; we didn't do it then, I don't see why now has to be any different. The fact is, that at the minimum, they are traitors to the state because they are supporting a foreign military that declared war on the United States. There is no reason they shouldn't be executed for that alone. They are killing people, and we sit around getting bullgak from Closet-Nazi-Hippies who claim that they have some sort of devine right to what they do.

The way to a more peaceful world is to stamp these fethers out! Organize a Jewish Protection Echelon. Such an organization would not have to be made up of Jews, but anyone who would be willing to return the brutality that is the only thing the Nazis respect. We'll see how the Nazis react when there's a JSS instead of everyone just taking it.

How does a Nazi steal a bike? Picks it up and runs.

What do you call 10,000 Nazis at the bottom of the sea? A good start.

Inglorious basterds glorifies animal cruelty.

Arthur Harris was a Nazi baker.

Who do you call to get rid of Nazis? An exterminator.

What do you use to get rid of Nazis? Insecticide.

A lot of this may have intentionally been over the top. But seriously...

...

And thank you to Hitler for helping us win the war. Proof of racist intelligence.

I know what you're thinking; I need to start an anti racist blog.

If you changed every instant of 'Nazi' into 'Jew' you'd have typical Nazi rhetoric. You aren't any better than they were/are it would seem.