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Not just that one one of zer0's skins is called ultramarine.
RIGHT at the start of the game

orkdestroyer1 wrote:
Not just that one one of zer0's skins is called ultramarine.
RIGHT at the start of the game

I just figured that it's called that because, you know, it's ultramarine. But you're probably right, most of the other skins are plays on words like that.

Ultramarine is an actual colour: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarine

A reference there would be stretching to be honest, especially because of the green patches included that would probably be gold if referring to 40k.

Also when handsome jack says that four people have died in the last week all of there names are actors who played doctor who.


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Just watched a video of the top gun easter egg......just do the mission 'too close for missiles' and all of the mission is top gun.

I gotta say, one of the best things about this game is its abuse of pop (and nerd) culture. I can't wait for more DLC, more characters, and eventually BL3! The Search For More Mon-errr, Guns. Mel Brooks fans should appreciate that game.


Feth it all, I'm farming Dukino's mom for Mongol, and I haven't gotten a single one yet-twenty kills, nothing. The Bee drops on the first go, but Mongol or Nukem? Not ever. Stupid, stupid...razzelfrazzin gudfernuthin...

Second DLC is announced for Nov 20th.

Tazz Azrael wrote:Is the Volcano the one with the red flavour text "Pele demands a sacrifice" or something similar to that? If so i love that sniper, it's so brutal!

The Volcano in Borderlands 1 had the red text "Pele demands a sacrifice," however they changed it in Borderlands 2 to "Pele humbly requests a sacrifice, if it's not too much trouble..."

I found that somewhat amusing. I still have not gotten my level 50 Volcano though.

pretre wrote:Yeah, that's the one.

In other news, they nerfed Bee in the latest PC patch, or so I heard. It splits the amp damage between all the projectiles or somesuch.

I never even got to cheaply kill the big guy.

If you have a level 50 Gaige and a Conference Call of some kind, you can kill him solo without the Bee.

Spec yourself like this and then head to Marcus's gun range. Get yourself a shotgun with only 1-2 bullets in the clip, and the Smaller, Lighter, Faster talent will reduce it to 1. Any Jacobs shotgun that doesn't use multiple rounds per shot is ideal. You can build your Anarchy stacks up to full just by shooting the maniac on the target board and reloading because it counts as you being in combat. I'm using the Slayer of Terramorphous class mod which increases Preshrunk Cyberpunk by 4 points giving me a cap of 600 Anarchy (over 1000% increased damage), but any mod which increases that skill is acceptable. A shotgun damage relic is useful as well, but not 100% necessary.

Once you have a max stack of Anarchy, head to Terramorphous Peak and equip your Conference Call, and whatever shield you have that has the fastest recharge delay and recharge rate possible. Capacity does not matter because he will 1-shot your shield regardless of how much of it there is. I used the Neogenator but anything with a reasonably quick recharge will do. This style of killing him has a bit more risk involved, so doing it on playthrough 1 is preferable, but I had no trouble on playthrough 2.5. He will just have more HP. You will have to get right up next to him in order to hit him with anything, but if you are careful he won't knock you off the edge and you should be able to keep him centered in the platform. Summoning Deathrap will help as well since he sometimes attacks Deathrap instead of you, making it easier to hit him. I was able to kill him before he summoned his second set of tentacles using this build and method, and he only knocked me off the edge once. As a side note, death does not remove Anarchy stacks, only being in FFYL removes them, or reloading early, so if you get knocked down and are unsure if you can second wind, just auto-kill yourself to preserve as many stacks as posible.

kirsanth wrote:Should still work with shredderfier, lascoux, et al, right? They shoot in a stream, not at once.

Have yet to see a conference call, but have a 53k dmg Bee. . . .

Also, PS3 not patched yet!
Time to farm a CC, I guess.

Bah, you're PS3 or I'd hook you up.

I have a Social Conference Call at level 50 that I don't need. If anyone has a level 50 Volcano, Baby Maker, Tediore Plasma Caster (MUST be Tediore), Infinity or Maggie to trade, hit me up on 360. Gamertag is AldarionnEB. I also have a Hyperion Plasma Caster and a Hyperion Hybridification (Sniper Rifle) to trade if anyone has something on my list of wants.

I just wanted to say....claptrap is awesome (his only weakness is stairs)

HA! I figured out how to get a Bad Touch at 50 without avoiding tipping Moxxie the whole game, and I can't believe it didn't occur to me before!

Get a character to 50 and unlock playthrough 2.5, then import a level 1 character to your game and give them money. Use that character to tip Moxxie and she will give him both the Bad Touch and the Good Touch at level 50. The awesome part is it won't prevent that character from getting a Bad Touch or a Good Touch in their own game, however as always, you can only ever get one Bad Touch, but you can get the Good Touch as many times as you want if you sell it and tip Moxxie again.

You can get the bad touch multiple times........

It might be different on PC, but as far as I can tell, you cannot get the Bad Touch more than once per playthrough on 360. When you tip Moxxie on a given playhtough of the game, the first ~$10,000 you spend gets you a Bad Touch. After that, tipping her yields a Good Touch after roughly $20,000-$40,000 total tip. If you tip her again with the rewards in your inventory, she will give you the line saying she is giving you her favorite gun, but she will not actually give you the gun. If you sell the guns and tip her, she will give you the Good Touch at whatever level in the story you have currently progressed to. When you start over in TVHM this resets, but does not reset for Playthrough 2.5.

Basically, from what I can tell, you give her a tip for the Bad Touch, and after that, any further tips only yield a Good Touch at whatever level you are in the story as long as you don't have a Good Touch in your inventory. If you have a method for resetting the entire process I would love to know, because that makes it much easier and prevents me having to split screen characters into another profile.

A glitch on ps3 is that if you signed up for shift your second local character on the same profile will always have a golden key.

Wish I could do a second local character on my 360 and get that glitch. I don't pay enough attention to the FB and Twitter updates to get the Shift codes on a regular basis.

I loaded twitter on my phone just for that. The big problem right now is that if you use the same profile the second character doesn't get any quest credit.

Maybe just a PC thing but I've had different levels of both guns several times on the same character

@Al:
Killed Terra with Bee and Moxxi's Good Touch (50) on Normal and my Gaige. Used the restore shield power on my DT and that one spot where he cant' get to you directly. Got a Burn Damage, Burn Chance, Max Health, +4 Intersp Outb, +4 EE, +4 Made of Stern, +4 Fancy Math, +4 Preshrunk mod.

Not bad, but is that the only thing we get (Burn and Health). Pretty lame, but the skills are worth it. I can't get to Intersp or Preshrunk on my build, but i have the other three skills.


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Oh yeah, is there any reason to kill him in TVHM does he drop better stuff?

 pretre wrote:
@Al:
Killed Terra with Bee and Moxxi's Good Touch (50) on Normal and my Gaige. Used the restore shield power on my DT and that one spot where he cant' get to you directly. Got a Burn Damage, Burn Chance, Max Health, +4 Intersp Outb, +4 EE, +4 Made of Stern, +4 Fancy Math, +4 Preshrunk mod.

He will always drop one guaranteed Legendary item, and it is almost always a class mod. I've noticed that the drop chance for which class the mod is for tends to favor the host of the game, so if you want a particular class mod, host with that character when you kill him.

As for the mod itself, the skills will always be the same, and it will always have burn chance and burn damage 21-26%, and between 6200 and 8500 bonus health. You CAN get a mod that will have 26% burn chance, 26% burn damage and 8500ish health, but usually it's a combination of random numbers within that range. That said, killing him repeatedly is not too difficult or costly if you just save and quit between kills in his lair (so you don't have to pay the 4 Eridium each time, and you get to open the chests near the exit each kill), so you will eventually get one that is better than the others.

He CAN drop other Legendary items, but his drop chance seems to be very small. In the 100s of times I have killed him, I have only gotten one other Legendary item that was not a class mod (A Pitchfork). However, having additional people in the zone can increase his drop chance for things like his Shield, his Grenade Mod or his Relic. He also drops a large number of purple items and can drop E-Tech weapons, so he is the best boss to farm for purple class mods and weapons. Many of my best guns come from farming him while leaching XP on my other characters (using a friend's profile). He drops 3-6 purples every kill, and while the majority will just be fodder to sell, a number of them can be quite good.

 pretre wrote:
Not bad, but is that the only thing we get (Burn and Health). Pretty lame, but the skills are worth it. I can't get to Intersp or Preshrunk on my build, but i have the other three skills.

There are a few builds I designed to use the Slayer of Terramorphous class mod, though it's not great for an Anarchy build due to the weapons you want to use for that build. Unfortunately I have not found a purple Anarchist class mod so I use it anyway in my build, but the build that uses the skills the most is a LBT build with a secondary in BFF. I think this is the spec I used before I switched back to BFF and it worked relatively well.

 pretre wrote:

Oh yeah, is there any reason to kill him in TVHM does he drop better stuff?

As far as I can tell the HP he has on TVHM is about 1.5x his standard HP, but he does the same damage and drops roughly the same loot. He might drop an extra purple or two on TVHM but I don't think the chances increase for Legendary drops other than the class mod. I kill him on TVHM exclusively because I usually have a lower level character parked at the zone entrance soaking XP and increasing his loot drops, and he gives much more XP on TVHM but doesn't take much longer to kill with my loadout. If you are only concerned with loot and not XP, you should be fine killing him on normal mode.

Hmm. I may farm XP off him. I'll have to pass the Bee around. Axton's next, I suppose.

I just got Maya and Salvador through Playthrough 1 (35 or so). I'm kind of annoyed right now because I didn't know that Salvador wasn't getting quest credit until waaaay too late. So he's level 35 and has completed 2 story quests if you load him as primary.

Poor Zero is still 18. Maybe I'll load him up while I kill Terra with Axton. We'll see if the turret is enough to make up for the lack of a pet tank on terra. Should help with tentacles, I imagine.


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Oh and it did take me a bunch of tries before I figured out the fight well enough to do it. I imagine I'll need practice before I just one shot it every time.

 pretre wrote:
Hmm. I may farm XP off him. I'll have to pass the Bee around. Axton's next, I suppose.

I just got Maya and Salvador through Playthrough 1 (35 or so). I'm kind of annoyed right now because I didn't know that Salvador wasn't getting quest credit until waaaay too late. So he's level 35 and has completed 2 story quests if you load him as primary.

Poor Zero is still 18. Maybe I'll load him up while I kill Terra with Axton. We'll see if the turret is enough to make up for the lack of a pet tank on terra. Should help with tentacles, I imagine.


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Oh and it did take me a bunch of tries before I figured out the fight well enough to do it. I imagine I'll need practice before I just one shot it every time.

For Axton, try this spec with an Engineer class mod (adjust skills as necessary to suit the mod, of course). Stand in the "safe" spot, and you can throw your Longbow turrets up on the overhang you drop down from to get to his plateau. If you time it right you can knock out a good chunk of his health before he stops playing with the turrets. Then you just need to survive until they become available again.

The hitch you will run into is his tentacles. Some of them will be unable to hit you, but if they spawn on the far left side of the plateau they will bypass it, and the ones that hurl rocks will always hit you no matter where you stand because of the angle the rocks fall on you. Terramorphous himself may or may not be able to hit you in melee if he pops up right next to your hiding spot (he can do this on either side), but most times you should be able to jockey yourself into a position to avoid the hits. When he gets to the rock-throwing tentacles, move out of the safe spot and just strafe around killing them and doing as much damage to Terramorphous as possible, and you should be fine. Just be aware that occasionally he will rush you and pop you into the air. This won't do any damage but it will knock you over the edge of the plateau if you are not careful.

I recommend using a relatively accurate shotgun for this fight instead of a single shot weapon, as you get more out of the Bee that way. If you don't have something like a Conference Call, you can substitute a Moxxi's Heart Breaker, which has great rate of fire, accuracy and pellet count per ammo consumed. You get it by completing the quest to obtain pictures for Marcus, but instead turning them in to Moxxi. Just don't complete the quest until after you finish TVHM on one of your characters so you can get a level 50 version of the gun.

One final thing to note. When he summons the beam tentacles, he becomes a fire type enemy and cannot be damaged by fire, so it is recommended that you have a non-fire type weapon to use during that part of the fight.

Cool, I'll give it a shot.

Another idea I have had (but not tried, because I'm using my friends Axton for this so I can't change his spec) is to go for the Slag turret at the bottom of the Guerrilla tree, and pick up Longbow from the Gunpowder tree. This will make Axton deal a LOT more damage to Terra, but still allow him to place the turret where Terramorphous should be unable to hit it. The catch is you will lose cooldown rate on the turret as well as the ability to ignore otherwise fatal damage.

I think I would use something like this with the Slayer of Terramorphous mod and a cooldown relic, the Bee and Moxxi's Heart Breaker.

I'm not even sure what my spec or gear loadout is on him, tbh. I think it is Guerilla/Survival but I'll have to take a look.

I'll let you know what gets me there.


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Holy crap. Just did it with axton first try with a purple Hyperion shotgun. So easy.

Yeah, shotguns are the best weapon to use with the Bee, because the amp damage is added to every pellet fired by the gun. Anything that fires multiple pellets is similarly useful with the Bee, hence why the Conference Call is so powerful.

I heard tell that they will be nerfing the Bee soon so it splits the amp damage among the pellets fired (IE shotguns would only get one boos per round fired like other weapons), but I do not know when it will occur. Until then, use it well!

New DLC is up.

I'll be picking it up soon, but I need to wait til payday on Friday. Is it any good?

Also, how is the new currency? Is it like Eridium/Dollars or is it more like the Seraph Crystals from Captain Scarlett?

It seems like Eridium-but it drops from badasses and quest completions. Also, visited 3 Torgue weapon shops and the item of the day has been legendary all three times. Boom Bewm's grenade showed up, a pistol and a Kerboom assault rifle. Only issue is that you need 613 per legendary item...I have 56 right now. They are timed, but it looks like IotD is always legendary. So, that's good.

I don't know yet.

It's a 1.54 GB download.

Yes, from what I saw on the Kotaku and IGN previews the Torgue machines will always have a legendary item of the day. What I would like to know is if that legendary will always be a Torgue weapon, or if there are other items that can appear.

One trick that works on other vending machines is to just quit out and re-load the game if the item isn't something you want, especially if the vending machines are near the spawn area. I don't know if this works on the Torgue machines or not, but if they work like the rest I assume it does. Save up your 613 tokens, then just re-load the game until the item you want appears in the slot.

Of course, those items might have their own rarity system, where certain items show up in the machine more often than others.

When I saw the first IotD as legendary, costing 613, and I had 5 Torgue dollars, I was pissed-I can't get that high in the next 15 minutes! Then I found 2 more machines with legendary items. I realized it was a moot point, but it stopped me for a second. I was ready to flip, as it's a legendary that I have no hope of receiving.

Hmm. Is it only up on steam or ps3 as well?