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Hah god bless Australian healthcare! Prescriptions take 15 minutes to an hour MAXIMUM to fill, and if they don't have your drug of choice, they will ask you to wait for an hour or two, whilst they get a restock from courier.

I feel sorry for you poor USA med-takers.

Hah god bless Australian healthcare! Prescriptions take 15 minutes to an hour MAXIMUM to fill, and if they don't have your drug of choice, they will ask you to wait for an hour or two, whilst they get a restock from courier.

I feel sorry for you poor USA med-takers.

I can't take this serious from someone name Doctordeth....

 Doctadeth wrote:
Hah god bless Australian healthcare! Prescriptions take 15 minutes to an hour MAXIMUM to fill, and if they don't have your drug of choice, they will ask you to wait for an hour or two, whilst they get a restock from courier.

I feel sorry for you poor USA med-takers.

An hour!? That's absolutely ages. I've never waited longer than 10 minutes.

I feel sorry for you poor Aussie med-takers.

Just grow you own "medicine", it's faster.

Never had to wait 10 minutes, let alone 15.

Ive worked retail most my life, I really feel bad for those that have to deal with the public.

Worked retail for the past 7 years now, and damn, I hate customers.

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Worked retail for the past 7 years now, and damn, I hate customers.

Because they're always right... amirite?

Whoever coined that phrase is probably hated by almost everyone who has worked retail.

Not only is the customer -not- always right, they're often arrogant to an extreme in trying to show they are. When they're not.

It's a figure of speech. It's not meant to be taken literally.

 Albatross wrote:
It's a figure of speech. It's not meant to be taken literally.

The problem is when people do use it literally, and I've met quite a few who do. None were pleasant.

 MrDwhitey wrote:

 Albatross wrote:
It's a figure of speech. It's not meant to be taken literally.

The problem is when people do use it literally, and I've met quite a few who do. None were pleasant.

Yup... just watch "Hardcore Pawn" and you'll see that attitude every 5 minutes.

 kronk wrote:
Since Grey Templar isn't a pharmacist, I'm not worried about his stance on giving out birth control.

I do, since he could call up his state rep and ask them to propose a bill that would make it legal to refuse service based on religious beliefs.

And if they don't he could vote for someone who would next election cycle.

 MrDwhitey wrote:

 Albatross wrote:
It's a figure of speech. It's not meant to be taken literally.

The problem is when people do use it literally, and I've met quite a few who do. None were pleasant.

When I worked retail, and a customer would start acting like an ass, we'd simply direct their gaze to the "minimum wage, minimum effort" sign we stashed behind the register.

Funnily enough, I've been refused service on religious grounds over here. I live in a big Jewish area, and worked for a Jewish business, who's owner sent me to get a pint of Kosher milk. The arsehole in the deli wouldn't serve me the milk because I wasn't Jewish. True story.

As you can imagine, I reacted with the class and restraint that are my trademarks.

Did they ever get the fires under control, Albatross?

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Did they ever get the fires under control, Albatross?

Well, yes, eventually. However, from that day I was known in the community as שְׂרָפִים, which literally translates as 'the burning one'.

Everyone else referred to him as 'The Burning One' for the amount of penicillin you he was going through on a month to month basis.

BOOM!

Well, now I feel like a proper schmuck....

 daedalus wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Still, you shouldn't be forced to do something you believe is immoral.

Calling someone a whore is wrong, but I think refusal to fill the perscription is perfectly fine. Come back at another time with a different pharmacist.

NO ONE should be treated like a pariah for trying to obtain legal medication. If your beliefs impact my life, then you've just become immoral in my book.

Then go somewhere else.


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 Albatross wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
And if I was, in the event of a request for a particular method I find immoral I would say "I won't fill this for you as it violates my personal beliefs. I'll gladly go get my coworker Joe who has no problem with it if you wish. We also have condoms in aisle 4 if you would like a cheaper alternative with no waiting."

To which my reply would be along the lines of: "I don't give a gak about your beliefs, so why don't you just do your job instead of wasting my time? This is a pharmacy, I require pharmaceuticals. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you find employment elsewhere, as you are clearly unsuited to an environment in which you can realistically be expected to dispense a high volume of contraceptives. Y'know, since we're trading advice. "

Respect.

 Frazzled wrote:

 daedalus wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Still, you shouldn't be forced to do something you believe is immoral.

Calling someone a whore is wrong, but I think refusal to fill the perscription is perfectly fine. Come back at another time with a different pharmacist.

NO ONE should be treated like a pariah for trying to obtain legal medication. If your beliefs impact my life, then you've just become immoral in my book.

Then go somewhere else.

Only you, Frazz, could see no issue with this scenario.

I will put it in terms you might actually be able to relate to: You go to a nice restaurant, you order the steak they have ON THE MENU, and then the waitress loudly accuses you of being a torturer and serial killer and refuses to serve you.

If this actually happened to you, you'd be all cowboy hats, false bravado, and America the Beautifuls until the "grave injustice" was undone.

 daedalus wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 daedalus wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Still, you shouldn't be forced to do something you believe is immoral.

Calling someone a whore is wrong, but I think refusal to fill the perscription is perfectly fine. Come back at another time with a different pharmacist.

NO ONE should be treated like a pariah for trying to obtain legal medication. If your beliefs impact my life, then you've just become immoral in my book.

Then go somewhere else.

Only you, Frazz, could see no issue with this scenario.

I will put it in terms you might actually be able to relate to: You go to a nice restaurant, you order the steak they have ON THE MENU, and then the waitress loudly accuses you of being a torturer and serial killer and refuses to serve you.

If this actually happened to you, you'd be all cowboy hats, false bravado, and America the Beautifuls until the "grave injustice" was undone.

False choice. I eat steak at steak houses. They smear dead cow on you when you enter, to ward off the hippy vegans that are crawling around (it is Austin).
The Company is fully in its rights to fire that person, and I don't have much sympathy for them. But there's literally a pharmacy on every street corner here. No one but people who have an agenda and want to get butthurt about something care.

 Frazzled wrote:

 daedalus wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 daedalus wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Still, you shouldn't be forced to do something you believe is immoral.

Calling someone a whore is wrong, but I think refusal to fill the perscription is perfectly fine. Come back at another time with a different pharmacist.

NO ONE should be treated like a pariah for trying to obtain legal medication. If your beliefs impact my life, then you've just become immoral in my book.

Then go somewhere else.

Only you, Frazz, could see no issue with this scenario.

I will put it in terms you might actually be able to relate to: You go to a nice restaurant, you order the steak they have ON THE MENU, and then the waitress loudly accuses you of being a torturer and serial killer and refuses to serve you.

If this actually happened to you, you'd be all cowboy hats, false bravado, and America the Beautifuls until the "grave injustice" was undone.

False choice. I eat steak at steak houses. They smear dead cow on you when you enter, to ward off the hippy vegans that are crawling around (it is Austin).
The Company is fully in its rights to fire that person, and I don't have much sympathy for them. But there's literally a pharmacy on every street corner here. No one but people who have an agenda and want to get butthurt about something care.

Don't pretent that there aren't steak houses on every corner.

Stead in steak houses.
Pharmaceuticals in pharmacies.

If you cannot dispense legally prescribed medications, don't become a pharmacist. Nobody forced that job on them.

 d-usa wrote:

Don't pretent that there aren't steak houses on every corner.

Stead in steak houses.
Pharmaceuticals in pharmacies.

If you cannot dispense legally prescribed medications, don't become a pharmacist. Nobody forced that job on them.

1. Don't be daft. I said pharmacies on every corner which is what the faux outrage is about.
-Pharamacist goes all moral
-Customer throws a fit.
-Pharmacist is fired, or store backs them.
-You go to another pharmacy.
At the Austin house there are two pharmacies within a 7 minute walk (I've walked it). There are at least 6 within a 7 minute ride. On the positive there are also two gun stores within 10 minutes (three if I am driving fast). Again it is Texas after all.
2. Having said that, this is Texas. Steakhouses on every second corner?

 Frazzled wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

Don't pretent that there aren't steak houses on every corner.

Stead in steak houses.
Pharmaceuticals in pharmacies.

If you cannot dispense legally prescribed medications, don't become a pharmacist. Nobody forced that job on them.

1. Don't be daft. I said pharmacies on every corner which is what the faux outrage is about.
-Pharamacist goes all moral
-Customer throws a fit.
-Pharmacist is fired, or store backs them.
-You go to another pharmacy.
At the Austin house there are two pharmacies within a 7 minute walk (I've walked it). There are at least 6 within a 7 minute ride. On the positive there are also two gun stores within 10 minutes (three if I am driving fast). Again it is Texas after all.
2. Having said that, this is Texas. Steakhouses on every second corner?

1) So pharmacists shouldn't have to do their job because there are other pharmacists?
2) So do you guys alternate Steak House with BBQ joint at every corner then with the occasional mexican restaurant mixed in somewhere?

 d-usa wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

Don't pretent that there aren't steak houses on every corner.

Stead in steak houses.
Pharmaceuticals in pharmacies.

If you cannot dispense legally prescribed medications, don't become a pharmacist. Nobody forced that job on them.

1. Don't be daft. I said pharmacies on every corner which is what the faux outrage is about.
-Pharamacist goes all moral
-Customer throws a fit.
-Pharmacist is fired, or store backs them.
-You go to another pharmacy.
At the Austin house there are two pharmacies within a 7 minute walk (I've walked it). There are at least 6 within a 7 minute ride. On the positive there are also two gun stores within 10 minutes (three if I am driving fast). Again it is Texas after all.
2. Having said that, this is Texas. Steakhouses on every second corner?

1) So pharmacists shouldn't have to do their job because there are other pharmacists?
2) So do you guys alternate Steak House with BBQ joint at every corner then with the occasional mexican restaurant mixed in somewhere?

1. We're talking a major moral issue. I'll give some leeway. As noted by other posters big box companies won't accept that and the issue will be corrected. Anyone who care's beyond throwing a fit ala Albatross is getting all butthurt, and frankly is a prick in real life to begin with (we have a bunch of those in Austin). I will state for the record that a pharmacist should fill all legal orders. If you have a problem with that you should screw off and have a different profession. I'm just noting anyone making a deal is pushing an agenda.
2. Now we're talking. In walking distance there is a local barbecue joint which is both excellent and supports the local school band. In bicycle distance there is a steak place and two Mexican restaurants. There's a taqueria in bicycle distance as well. WE eat healthy in my neck of the woods.

What is different is that there used to be places that served chicken fried steak all over the place. those have been replace by mexican restaurants. My arteries miss the weekly intake of chicken fried steak.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm Chicken Fried Steak...

Best if you make 'em at home...

Mom would make some weird cajunation of chicken fried steak. It was good but very different.


Goodson's makes excellent CFS. Careful there's also a Goodies barbeque which is righteously good, but CFS is not their schtick.

The small at this place is almost as large as a plate. The large would make a TRex say "wo thats a little much"
http://www.goodsonscafetomball.com/

 Grey Templar wrote:

 daedalus wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

 daedalus wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Still, you shouldn't be forced to do something you believe is immoral.

Calling someone a whore is wrong, but I think refusal to fill the perscription is perfectly fine. Come back at another time with a different pharmacist.

NO ONE should be treated like a pariah for trying to obtain legal medication. If your beliefs impact my life, then you've just become immoral in my book.

But your beliefs are now impacting my life because I believe I am facilitating the muder of unborn children.

See how this goes both ways?

We can play the "Your stepping on my beliefs, no your stepping on my beliefs" all day long.

You've a good point there in the end. And yet I compromise my morality every day by not stabbing people I consider stupid. People, in fits of moral rage, kill others in their God's name.

At any rate, your hypothetical beliefs are wrong (and in more ways than one), but mainly because you're not even facilitating murder, you're helping a girl with endomeitriosis. Having known women who've had to deal with that, I kind of want to punch someone just hearing that this happened.

If she taking it for endomeitriosis I personally would have no problem with that. Taking it for birth control is what i would consider immoral.

Of course it depends on the type of birth control. If its the kind that prevents the fertilized egg from implanting on the wall, I consider that to be murder.

If it just prevents fertilization in the first place its ok.

I believe that you have a human at the moment of conception, anything that happens after that is murder.

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but as a pharmacist myself, I find the above attitude abhorent and medically unethical. Your personal beliefs should not interfere in the patient-doctor relationship unless you see a real threat to the patient's health (interaction unforeseen by the doctor for example). If you want to beat people over the head with your Dark Ages attitudes, become a televangelist.

And the "just wait for another pharmacist" doesn't always work. What if it is a small town with only a single pharmacy? What if both pharmacists are religious nutjobs? What if transportation is difficult to obtain and you can't just keep coming back and playing pharmacist roulette?

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