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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 01:34:13
Subject: Re:GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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Amaya wrote:That is entirely dependent on how much money you have for hobby funds.
The dollar amount might be dependent, meaning your budget for a year might already be $1200. But then you are getting 20% fewer models for the money.
Just because you can afford the price hike doesn't mean it doesn't affect you.
No one is ok with getting less product for more money at the same quality that it was when it was cheaper. It goes against human nature.
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 01:36:59
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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BunkerBob wrote:...but 52 bucks for 3 mutilators of the worst sculpts ever sold is seriously pushing it over the edge.
Fixed.
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SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
My Youtube Channel
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking. = Epic First Post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 01:38:08
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Why is this thread still open?
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 01:40:07
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Very true. The only thing I consider to be "must have" outside of the release is the Heldrake. The fiends are unimpressive models and only worth purchasing if they are excellent on the TT. I've always preferred converting Obliterators, the same is true for Mutilators now.
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Read my story at:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/515293.page#5420356
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 01:40:18
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Regular Dakkanaut
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Are there any other 25mm characters at this price point, because it seems ridiculous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 01:43:02
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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codex is very costly...
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The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 01:45:10
Subject: Re:GW Products/Codex on Website
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Regular Dakkanaut
Long Jetty, The place is a dump
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Thank god you live in Britain, here in Australia that Battleforce boxset is 39 British Pounds more expensive. Automatically Appended Next Post: Hulkster wrote:I just cant get over these prices.....expected but very disappointing. Its just getting harder to justify buying when its so darn expensive.
Come to Australia and then bitch about prices. Automatically Appended Next Post: Aerethan wrote: Amaya wrote:How significant is the price increase? I have it around 20%...
Seriously, is spending 1200 instead of 1000 that much of an increase for a hobby? It's expensive as hell to begin with.
20% is a huge mark up on anything.
Chicken feed, in Australia it is 87.5% mark up of what you pay, get over it.
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"Ultramarines are Wusses".... Chapter Master Achaylus Bonecrusher
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 01:48:17
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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What a massive ripoff. Thousand sons, well you have to buy chaos space marine box, then you have to buy upgrade pack, yea fun times But wait theres more! Noise marines: Yea so buy those space marines box, then the upgrade pack, then the weapons pack. $30 in upgrades for one squad, plus the cost of the box set. But wait, theres EVEN MORE!!! Hardback only, $17 more than the paperback version! Who wants my CSM army? I have been trying to sell for a while now so this should make it easier at least. EDIT: not to mention the new models are absolutely awful, all of them but the hellbrute. They are way overdesigned and have an over busy look to them, all small useless details and no real substance to the design. I have loved the last 3 or 4 releases and dont get this one at all.
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Victory is not the most important outcome. Enjoyment and excitement is the best outcome, victory is sweeter when it was fun. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 01:48:54
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
Somewhere... Out there...
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In all honestly, I will be saying "PASS" on buying anything new for my CSM army. Will these prices, I simply cannot justify buying this stuff...
GW might have just priced itself out of my gaming world. Maybe I will go back to WARMACHINE...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 01:51:08
Subject: Re:GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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I really wish Aussies would stop complaining about prices. We get it, you play an insane additional cost. This is not news.
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Read my story at:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/515293.page#5420356
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 01:52:59
Subject: Re:GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Regular Dakkanaut
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Amaya wrote:I really wish Aussies would stop complaining about prices. We get it, you play an insane additional cost. This is not news.
And they are not the only ones who pay a stupid mark-up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 01:56:57
Subject: Re:GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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Amaya wrote:I really wish Aussies would stop complaining about prices. We get it, you pay an insane additional cost IF YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO FIND CHEAPER SOURCES THAT WILL SHIP TO YOU. This is not news.
Fixed that for you. The only reason an Aussie pays more is because they don't bother to try and pay less.
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 02:00:23
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Speed Drybrushing
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I honestly think this is their goal sometimes, just price it out till nothingness.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 02:01:00
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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So. The battleforce is notably lacking the berserkers, but they think that bikers somehow make up for that, and the five random marines? This is just robbery:
Rhino:35
Possessed:25
Marines: 35
Bikers:45
= 140
You only save about 20 bucks, unless I'm missing something. I really hope bikers aren't total crap, because I'm going to be taking them regardless
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If only ZUN!bar were here... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 02:11:04
Subject: Re:GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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Aerethan wrote: Amaya wrote:I really wish Aussies would stop complaining about prices. We get it, you pay an insane additional cost IF YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO FIND CHEAPER SOURCES THAT WILL SHIP TO YOU. This is not news.
Fixed that for you. The only reason an Aussie pays more is because they don't bother to try and pay less.
Because its not like there is some sort of embargo stopping overseas seller shipping gw over here.
Back on topic, I am glad to see the single plastic characters finally hitting the 40k seen and look forward to some being relaeased for my armies in the future. The dragon and feinds look much better with some proper photos, I might be tempted to start some chaos, but will wait a bit first to see what else is released in the second wave.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 02:15:58
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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2nd Lieutenant
San Jose, California
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With those prices it makes me glad I have no desire to play either Chaos or Dark Angels (you know the $50 codex and other pricey models are coming for them as well). I'll stick with my Necrons and Space Wolves, thank you very much.
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Solve a man's problem with violence and help him for a day. Teach a man how to solve his problems with violence, help him for a lifetime - Belkar Bitterleaf |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 02:20:56
Subject: Re:GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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tuiman wrote: Aerethan wrote: Amaya wrote:I really wish Aussies would stop complaining about prices. We get it, you pay an insane additional cost IF YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO FIND CHEAPER SOURCES THAT WILL SHIP TO YOU. This is not news.
Fixed that for you. The only reason an Aussie pays more is because they don't bother to try and pay less.
Because its not like there is some sort of embargo stopping overseas seller shipping gw over here.
Back on topic, I am glad to see the single plastic characters finally hitting the 40k seen and look forward to some being relaeased for my armies in the future. The dragon and feinds look much better with some proper photos, I might be tempted to start some chaos, but will wait a bit first to see what else is released in the second wave.
Because there aren't tons of friendly chaps here in the US who are willing to buy GW plastics at 30% off US retail and ship them to people in AUS.
Sure it's not as convenient as ordering from a web store, but it's still an option.
Island of Blood retails in Australia for $165 AUD, which is $172US. I can buy them all day every day for $70US which is only $67AUD + $6US shipping to my house. So unless the cost of me shipping you a single IoB box is $100AUD, you'd save money.
Now of course, it takes larger orders to make it worth the effort, but if any Aussie Dakka member wanted to do this I'd help them with it.
So any order of let's say $300 US msrp (about $500 AUD) becomes feasible for me to do. And what you would pay for that $500 AUD msrp would actually be $200AUD. So there's that.
My point is, sure it might be a hassle, but that hassle is well worth the money saved, especially when doing large orders. And I can guarantee that the $500msrp order wouldn't cost $300AUD to ship from here in California.
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 02:23:09
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Blood Sacrifice to Khorne
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Good thing my FLGS has a 30% discount on everything, or else I would have to scrap my Chaosy plans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 02:31:01
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
rainbow dashing to your side
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this isn’t the first time I've let out a sigh and put my wallet away after seeing a new wave of mini's from GW -.-'
really these are just terrible, those daemon engines look like robotic sloths with guns for arms and that dragon....oh god the dragon, still I suppose every 13 year old will be wetting themselves over it and screeching about how cool it looks :/
the maulers are just so, so bad I'm finding it hard to bring myself to even look at them, it's like a child went nuts with an oblit, the spawn kit and some GS
the upgrade packs are a fething joke and I'm just happy I got my metal sonics before they became finecast
the sorc looks like a lazy conversion and the spiky tech marine, while very pretty, will be a pain in the arse to work with in finecast, same goes for the preacher which is a shame as I quite like those two
the raptors are very pretty indeed but I have no use for them. the phrase "staggeringly dynamic poses" made me laugh as all I see is the dynamic entry, this way to the beach, hugz, moar hugs and the thriller poses :/
the plastic chosen is useless and would have been much better replacing one of the bolter twins in the DV box
so yeah, chaos might be playable now and that’s it....wooo
maybe I'll go drop an extra £20 on a codex with a silly cover, a letter saying how much money I spent and a ribbon so I don’t lose my place
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my little space marine army, now 20% cooler http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424613.page
school league:
round 1 2011 W/2 L/1 D/0 round 1 2012 : W/2 L/1 D/0
round 2 2011 W/3 L/0 D/0 round 2 2012 W/3 L/0 D/0
round 3 2011: W/2 L/0 D/1 round 3 2012 W/4 L/0 D/0
school league champions 2011
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 02:40:51
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Speed Drybrushing
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All while in full color too!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 02:43:44
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Preacher of the Emperor
At a Place, Making Dolls Great Again
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good god 60 dollars for a codex, i remember when the hard cover rule book was 75
which is why i never owned one
I mean if this is the stunning awesomeness that the massive 3rd ed one was (abit only 30 back then, when most codex's were 20 and the mini marine ones were 15)
there's expensive and then there's ungodly expensive
the hobby was always expensive, now its ungodly so
and don't go yammering on how GW is a business, yes they are a business and as a costumer if I am gonna shell out 60 dollars for a book, I sort of want something worth my money, at least a little bit. and taking in GW's track record for crappily made codex's... I don't see that as a reality.
90 dollars for a flyer?!
and hey the starter set is up to 120 like it was in 3rd ed...though in 3rd ed you got the full rulebook with it, not a tiny one
ah memories
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Make Dolls Great Again
Clover/Trump 2016
For the United Shelves of America! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 02:44:33
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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So no cultists, no new specialist chaos marines, no plastic 'blits, no multipart Dread/Hellbrute...
But we do get 2 zoids.
Y'know, not interested this time. No interested at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 02:55:01
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Warpsmith and Apostle in Finecast:(...
no go for me, as much as i like the minis...
too bad they can't use a harder resin...
i really like the Mauler, especially in those Iron Warriors colors...
the new Raptors seem like the best of the lot here...
loads of bits, and plastic jump troops (as much as i love metal, the old Raptors always felt like an accident waiting to happen on small bases)...
grab these guys on a discount, and be stoked...
i quite like the Asp. Champ. model...
nice to see single sprue plastics...
being over $5 more than the WFB minis, makes him another discount retail purchase...
i'm might have to go with the digital codex here...
i love my iPad and it's huge library of novels...
i'm just not sure if i will enjoy a digital codex as much as I like the paper version...
this will be my trial run, but I have a feeling I will prefer the large format of a paper codex better...
i really like the photo features of the Space Marine iPad Codex samples...
it's definitely a lot more interactive than my ebooks and ezines...
cheers
jah
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Paint like ya got a pair!
Available for commissions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 03:02:53
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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50 for the codex hurts a bit...even with online retail discounting wont be long before we are just paying what used to be full GW price. Hopefully its atleast a decent quality book...but 50 bucks is still rough
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 03:15:18
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Slippery Scout Biker
BC
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I'm very happy about Kharne finally being put into finecast. It's been forever since I've seen a metal one anywhere, and I wanted to buy one.
The Warpsmith seems a bit pricey, but he's a chaos techmarine. You can bet I'm buying one.
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2000+ Exorcists
~4500 Bad Moonz & Goffs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 03:15:57
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So everything I want to get:: Warpsmith, Dark Apostle, Warp Talons, Heldrake, Forgefiend, Oblits, Codex, Night Lords conversion (for the Warp Talons) comes out to $307. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeez
Mesa gonna wait a while....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 03:24:27
Subject: GW Products/Codex on Website - Chaos
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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This topic is already addressed in another, very large and obvious thread that has had furious activity the past week or so... there is nothing new to discuss here.
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