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 DeathReaper wrote:
P.S. "country that can't spell or pronounce the element Aluminium" In the U.S. our dialect of English pronounces it differently than other parts of the world, and it is correctly pronounced in the U.S. as the English Language is evolving organism and not static.

BTW you really should visit the U.S. for the food alone. but there is also some scenery that is truly breathtaking.

Entirely off topic: It really was a gibb for the sake of a gibb to demonstrate how pointless it is arguing someones opinion. I actually do plan on visiting the US, not any time soon but one day. Essentially I hold the opinion I have based on whats presented before me, you have a different opinion on the same information. I am happy to play either variation without argument in a game of 40k, it doesn't change my opinion but I will play without complaint.


Back on topic:

HawaiiMatt wrote:
Sadly it's a halberd. Free buff to dreads with no drawback.
Makes dreads pretty dangerous really.

Now I'm sad I traded that bit away to a buddy who wanted a daemon prince with a giant halberd.

I did find the argument amusing though. Even though it's clearly a halberd, I'm going to call it a knife because of a piston grip. Well, I'm calling my bolters "pistols" in combat, because a few of my marines are 1 handing them.

-Matt

I modeled my mates Demon prince with an ultra marine for a weapon, it makes no difference to its profile or attacks. (Edit: my bad, ignore this I misread. lol)

Its not the handling of the weapon its the modeling of the weapon. the FLD and its Force weapon are one combined machine and comparitavly small when you consider scale. The pictures I posted are FLD's with force weapons are seperate to the arm and can be used two handed, they are comparitavly longer when you consider scale. They are clearly and without doubt halberds/pole arms.

Now I'm not questioning the weapon by itself looks like a halberd, but as its modeled on the vanilla FLD the weapon is part the arm as a whole and not at all long enough to be a halberd/pole arm. In my opinion (thought I'd specify that part for the 40 thousandth time)


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Though thinking about it, its not really a free buff to FLDs as the cost of the force weapon does not increase depending on type. You could model it with a force staff if you wanted to and it would cost the same. Much the same as, I mentioned earlier as a joke, Ironclads don't pay more for their chain fists (even though they ignore the unwieldy rule too)

Really isn't a common type of halberd nothing more than a knife on a pole? if you subtract the pole isn't what remains a 'knife' of some sort?

Most likely missed in the FAQ and will be deemed an unusual force weapon. As it stands however, a halberd/axe.

 Neorealist wrote:
Really isn't a common type of halberd nothing more than a knife on a pole? if you subtract the pole isn't what remains a 'knife' of some sort?

Technically a Halberd is an Axe head on a spear that also incorporates a spear tip.

A polearm(which a halberd is a specific type of) can have any number of things on the end.


It can have a scythe, axe head, giant weighted blade, etc...

All of the above would fall into the Axe catagory.

 DeathReaper wrote:
P.S. "country that can't spell or pronounce the element Aluminium" In the U.S. our dialect of English pronounces it differently than other parts of the world, and it is correctly pronounced in the U.S. as the English Language is evolving organism and not static.

That's not why you have different spellings and pronunciation. It was some nationalist thinker that wanted American English to have as little to do with the British English of the time. It was a state enforced change of spelling nothing natural or evolved about it. Similar to all state controlled languages like German etc.


If it looks like a poleaxe and it doesn't look like a sword then it's a halibard. The way a poleaxe and polearm are used to fight are the same, swords not so much.

Hell if you want to get technical lots of the space marine swords should be mauls as they are too bit to be cutting weapons and just bludgeons.

 liturgies of blood wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
P.S. "country that can't spell or pronounce the element Aluminium" In the U.S. our dialect of English pronounces it differently than other parts of the world, and it is correctly pronounced in the U.S. as the English Language is evolving organism and not static.

That's not why you have different spellings and pronunciation. It was some nationalist thinker that wanted American English to have as little to do with the British English of the time. It was a state enforced change of spelling nothing natural or evolved about it. Similar to all state controlled languages like German etc.


If it looks like a poleaxe and it doesn't look like a sword then it's a halibard. The way a poleaxe and polearm are used to fight are the same, swords not so much.

Hell if you want to get technical lots of the space marine swords should be mauls as they are too bit to be cutting weapons and just bludgeons.

Off topic:
Point of fact however it was not the original word for the element. Alumium was the first in 1807, then Aluminum then finally settling on Aluminium on 1812. The spelling Aluminum was part of its creative process and not strictly an evolution of the language, just part of the creation of a name. However the US and Webster's decided otherwise, yeah I like how they thought they knew better than the person naming it, so they used the Aluminum spelling. I will point out that chemists in the US used and continue to use the Aluminium variation as its the correct name of the element.


On topic:
That aside form that, a pole arm with a knife on the end of it is closer akin to a spear, which is not an axe under 40k standards. Its more like a lance, leading stab being the one with the most thrust followed by shorter less powerful stabs and swings.

Which marine swords are you refereing to BTW? Im curious now lol

Off topic:
I was more referring to Webster and his views on spelling reform and not the choice of the ACS to rename Sulphur to sulfer and to force aluminum as a standard in IUPAC.
Colour to color, centre to center sorts of things are his gift to the world.

On topic:
Some of the space marine blades look like they would only be used for Harnischfechten, using their concussive force to batter the hell out of an armoured opponent before stabbing them with the point. Most of the big chunky blades.

Not all swords were thin cutting impliments.

Broadswords and two handed swords were actually not supposed to cut their way through by being sharp, but actually because they were so heavy and had alot of force behind their wedge shaped blades. These swords would actually not have been sharp enough to cut much of anything on.

... That's his (l.o.b's) point...