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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 10:12:56
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Bryan Ansell
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Hook hands last appeal ends in failure.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19855380
Radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza is due to appear in court in New York to face terrorism charges.
He is one of five men who left the UK on two flights, hours after the High Court rejected their final appeals.
It has been confirmed Babar Ahmad and Tahla Ahsan have landed in the US. They will appear before a federal judge in Connecticut in connection with the alleged running of a pro-jihad website.
The home secretary said she was looking to speed up the extradition process.
On Friday judges ruled the five men - Abu Hamza, Mr Ahmad, Mr Ahsan, Adel Abdul Bary and Khaled al-Fawwaz - had not shown "new and compelling" reasons to stay in the UK.
Their decision came after the European Court of Human Rights backed successive UK courts in ruling for the extraditions after a legal process of more than eight years.
The men were on two planes that left a military airbase in Suffolk.
Abu Hamza faces 11 charges in the US relating to hostage taking, conspiracy to establish a militant training camp and calling for holy war in Afghanistan.
His lawyers had argued he was not fit to be deported on health grounds.
He is set to go before a judge within 24 hours of landing and will appear in an open hearing following his arrival at an airport in New York state......
Thank feth he has finally gone. I think there will be a review of why it has taken so long to get him out of the country.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 10:16:34
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Going through the legal processes takes time, though why it should take so many years is another matter.
Anyway, I wish him joy of his visit to the USA.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 10:30:54
Subject: Re:Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Imperial Admiral
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I suspect we'll give him the same welcome that any other foreign visitor to New York is likely to get.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 14:42:16
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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That's a long time to wait for a trial... Same with all those fellas down in Gitmo... Hmm. If only things worked like Phoenix Wright... One day of evidence gathering, and a trial the next day after that.
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If only ZUN!bar were here... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 18:56:19
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Killer Klaivex
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If there's one person I'm more than happy to see get the weight of harsher US sentencing, it's him.
Have fun with him guys! Try not to break too many of his teeth though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 18:58:54
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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It's about fething time this gak excuse for a human got whats coming to him.This whole case has been one long mockery of the british legal system and i hope our american friends throw the book at all of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 19:00:32
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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Ketara wrote:If there's one person I'm more than happy to see get the weight of harsher US sentencing, it's him.
Have fun with him guys! Try not to break too many of his teeth though.
I believe his new husband Bubba is getting greased up in anticipation as we speak.
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Be sure to use logic! Avoid fallacies whenever possible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 19:22:52
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Bryan Ansell
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Surtur wrote: Ketara wrote:If there's one person I'm more than happy to see get the weight of harsher US sentencing, it's him.
Have fun with him guys! Try not to break too many of his teeth though.
I believe his new husband Bubba is getting greased up in anticipation as we speak.
Bubba to Hamza.
"It's alright son, you wont be needing hands anyways"
ZIP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 19:31:03
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Oberstleutnant
Back in the English morass
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He will be solitary so he will have to settle for his own hook. Why this took 8 years is beyond me.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 19:52:28
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Hallowed Canoness
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Palindrome wrote:He will be solitary so he will have to settle for his own hook. Why this took 8 years is beyond me.
Didn't you hear? Solitary confinement is inhuman. We HAVE to let him out into the general population... you know of a federal penitentiary.
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
SoB, IG, SM, SW, Nec, Cus, Tau, FoW Germans, Team Yankee Marines, Battletech Clan Wolf, Mercs
DR:90-SG+M+B+I+Pw40k12+ID+++A+++/are/WD-R+++T(S)DM+ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 19:57:42
Subject: Re:Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Didn't you hear? Solitary confinement is inhuman. We HAVE to let him out into the general population... you know of a federal penitentiary.
Why yes. Yes it is. Solitary Confinement is inhumane for anyone name Abu....luck of the draw. General Pop. will welcome him with open arms....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 20:04:05
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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This is nothing to celebrate, it took eight years.
You should get two appeals, and then you get your balls nailed to a telephone book. Only take 30 days.
The fact that economic jihad is a docmented tactic, means we need to get tougher. This mother fether has cost us millions.
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We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 20:39:38
Subject: Re:Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Hallowed Canoness
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Jihadin wrote:Didn't you hear? Solitary confinement is inhuman. We HAVE to let him out into the general population... you know of a federal penitentiary.
Why yes. Yes it is. Solitary Confinement is inhumane for anyone name Abu....luck of the draw. General Pop. will welcome him with open arms....
Inhumane for guys named Bradley as well from what I understand.
Gotta agree with Matty though, our legal system (and apparently the U.K.'s) can have SERIOUS issues with appeals. I'm a big fan of a fair trial and I believe even the worst possible scumbag has the right to prove he's innocent of the charges brought against him but bloody hell there needs to be a limit.
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
SoB, IG, SM, SW, Nec, Cus, Tau, FoW Germans, Team Yankee Marines, Battletech Clan Wolf, Mercs
DR:90-SG+M+B+I+Pw40k12+ID+++A+++/are/WD-R+++T(S)DM+ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/07 00:09:15
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Completely agree. The fact that lawyers deliberately spin things like this out makes a mockery of due process. Of course there will always be some expense and some time involved, but it shouldn't have taken half of what it did.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/07 00:16:00
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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Well he's your problem now. Have fun
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men.
Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/07 00:58:50
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Hallowed Canoness
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Testify wrote:Completely agree. The fact that lawyers deliberately spin things like this out makes a mockery of due process. Of course there will always be some expense and some time involved, but it shouldn't have taken half of what it did.
I wouldn't be against something like say this: You get your trial. Bam guilty. You appeal, a second court finds you guilty. Go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200 dollars. For more serious punishments and especially death penalty cases the case then goes into a Judicial Review Queue where a couple lawyers who have not been connected to the case tear through both trials for ANY possible failure of legal procedure, bias, etc. If it they find something, re-trial, if it's clear carry on. Increases efficiency while keeping everything as fair and just as humanely possible.
Only place it could drag out is if you're found guilty, then found not guilty or vice versa as the Government can and does appeal criminal cases.
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
SoB, IG, SM, SW, Nec, Cus, Tau, FoW Germans, Team Yankee Marines, Battletech Clan Wolf, Mercs
DR:90-SG+M+B+I+Pw40k12+ID+++A+++/are/WD-R+++T(S)DM+ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/07 16:21:39
Subject: Re:Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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He really does look like a pirate. He has one eye, a hook for a hand and a straggly beard.
Anyway, good riddence to this prick.
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Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/07 16:34:49
Subject: Re:Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Squigsquasher wrote:He really does look like a pirate. He has one eye, a hook for a hand and a straggly beard.
Anyway, good riddence to this prick.
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We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 11:44:35
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Hulking Hunter-class Warmech
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shingouki wrote:It's about fething time this gak excuse for a human got whats coming to him.This whole case has been one long mockery of the british legal system and i hope our american friends throw the book at all of them.
Hopefully it'll be a very heavy book as well...
Also Matty, that comic is ace
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 12:01:53
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Fixture of Dakka
Manchester UK
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I'm sure he'll receive a completely fair trial and definitely won't end up in an offshore concentration camp being waterboarded to within an inch of his life. Of that I am certain.
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Cheesecat wrote:
I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 12:15:41
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Albatross wrote:I'm sure he'll receive a completely fair trial and definitely won't end up in an offshore concentration camp being waterboarded to within an inch of his life. Of that I am certain.
More's the pity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 12:36:40
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Frazzled wrote: Albatross wrote:I'm sure he'll receive a completely fair trial and definitely won't end up in an offshore concentration camp being waterboarded to within an inch of his life. Of that I am certain.
More's the pity.
I hope he winds up with hooks on both fething hands!
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We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 12:38:44
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Hahahaha i lol'ed. I would say its about time, but then i never could really be bothered to go and see what he did.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 14:12:21
Subject: Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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What I want to know is why if he preaches a belife in sacrificing ones life for the greater will of his god. Why is he fighting to stay out of a country that has no problem putting him to death for his actions? Seems to me his "Faith" isnt as strong as he says.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 15:10:19
Subject: Re:Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Fixture of Dakka
Manchester UK
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Just because:
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Cheesecat wrote:
I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 15:31:35
Subject: Re:Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 16:09:40
Subject: Re:Abu Hamza is finally extradited!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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As he's not British or from an EU country he should of been deported or extradited straight away. The human rights he was demanding are non existent in his country, so how come they apply to him when he's over here? Same with the other one that they want to send back to Jordan. They aren't British or EU nationals so tough whatsits, back you go. Don't care if they lock you away in a pit or torture you, you don't come to our country and break the law. If you're that dedicated to the cause then have the b***s to stay put. Just shows what a total load of "b******s" these fanatics preach. I bet they stir up the young men to strap bombs to them, but don't do any of it themselves, it's almost like a Blackadder sketch!!
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