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This is a very situational tactic to use against dark apostles, though I think it might be fun(ny).

Since all units within 6" "must" use his LD, you could use something like IG psykers to cause a LD2 bubble to appear in the middle of your opponent's army. Then sit back and laugh at all the scaredy marines running in all directions!

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and so you need to roll your psykic test, get focused witchfire, roll to hit, get past deny the witch. Then the apostle and his unit are still fearless.

Then you combine it with a Psyker using the Terrify power for epic lollage

 Grey Templar wrote:
Then you combine it with a Psyker using the Terrify power for epic lollage

Didn't even think of that. It'd be worse than Tau losing an Etherial!

And sure deny the witch and all of that makes it not foolproof, but you have to admit it'd pretty funny.

 Exergy wrote:
and so you need to roll your psykic test, get focused witchfire, roll to hit, get past deny the witch. Then the apostle and his unit are still fearless.

He is fearless, his unit is fearless, but all CSM units within 6" must use his leadership. They aren't fearless.

its pretty lol, but pretty situational

 Jihallah wrote:

 Exergy wrote:
and so you need to roll your psykic test, get focused witchfire, roll to hit, get past deny the witch. Then the apostle and his unit are still fearless.

He is fearless, his unit is fearless, but all CSM units within 6" must use his leadership. They aren't fearless.

its pretty lol, but pretty situational

yeah, it is not like anything else in the CSM book has fearless either....

Im taking allied guard for my cultists anyway. cheaper and better.

 Exergy wrote:

Im taking allied guard for my cultists anyway. cheaper and better.

I'm on the same page. AND it opens up options in FA and HS slots you may want. AND it gives you access to marbo (lol)

 Exergy wrote:
and so you need to roll your psykic test, get focused witchfire, roll to hit, get past deny the witch. Then the apostle and his unit are still fearless.

Incorrect. Weaken resolve only needs a psychic test to pass, and have a fail on deny the witch. There are no to hit rolls on Weaken Resolve. Therefore we cannot use fire points to use the power anymore :(

Glocknall wrote:

 Exergy wrote:
and so you need to roll your psykic test, get focused witchfire, roll to hit, get past deny the witch. Then the apostle and his unit are still fearless.

Incorrect. Weaken resolve only needs a psychic test to pass, and have a fail on deny the witch. There are no to hit rolls on Weaken Resolve. Therefore we cannot use fire points to use the power anymore :(

I realized that late lastnight. O well.


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 Jihallah wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

Im taking allied guard for my cultists anyway. cheaper and better.

I'm on the same page. AND it opens up options in FA and HS slots you may want. AND it gives you access to marbo (lol)

way ahead of you.

 Exergy wrote:

 Jihallah wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

Im taking allied guard for my cultists anyway. cheaper and better.

I'm on the same page. AND it opens up options in FA and HS slots you may want. AND it gives you access to marbo (lol)

way ahead of you.

I know right? better guns than cultists, easier to make them hang around than cultists (cheaper too, and doesn't suck up a HQ slot!), more tactical applications than cultists, gives access to valks, vendettas, LRBT's, artillery, Ogryns (lol), Marbo (lol?)...


why, oh why, would I take cultists?

 Jihallah wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

 Jihallah wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

Im taking allied guard for my cultists anyway. cheaper and better.

I'm on the same page. AND it opens up options in FA and HS slots you may want. AND it gives you access to marbo (lol)

way ahead of you.

I know right? better guns than cultists, easier to make them hang around than cultists (cheaper too, and doesn't suck up a HQ slot!), more tactical applications than cultists, gives access to valks, vendettas, LRBT's, artillery, Ogryns (lol), Marbo (lol?)...


why, oh why, would I take cultists?

I am going to take 1 unit of ccw pistol cultists and the rest auto/lasgun IG allies.
Thinking a platoon of 20 lasguns low cost long range specials(grenade launcher, autocannon).
A PCS with a bunch of flamers, perhaps in the vendetta
A vet squad with 3 meltaguns
marbo
vendetta
basalisk(I have one and like the look more than LRBT)
CCS with some minimal upgrades.
36 bodies for 700 points. Ill take it.

that's a fair bit!

I was going to go 20-30 bodies, no upgrades, commissar, maybe 2 blobs
PCS with either 4x melta or 4x flamer in chimera, as a mobile melta squad is great against deepstrike/pod shenanigans with hard targets, and 4x flamer is cheap and effective
Basilisk or LRBT, thinking more LRBT due to toughness and presenting a big fat target etc.
CCS for the obligatory HQ


get my hard tank, a horde of cheap bodies, and avoid flyers like a champ (non of my friends have AA yet ). The naked blob (blob with just a commisar) has worked well for my friend in the past, just as meat, so it fits the role of cultists except...better small things, like going to ground then getting back into the fight via orders.

 Jihallah wrote:
that's a fair bit!

I was going to go 20-30 bodies, no upgrades, commissar, maybe 2 blobs
PCS with either 4x melta or 4x flamer in chimera, as a mobile melta squad is great against deepstrike/pod shenanigans with hard targets, and 4x flamer is cheap and effective
Basilisk or LRBT, thinking more LRBT due to toughness and presenting a big fat target etc.
CCS for the obligatory HQ


get my hard tank, a horde of cheap bodies, and avoid flyers like a champ (non of my friends have AA yet ). The naked blob (blob with just a commisar) has worked well for my friend in the past, just as meat, so it fits the role of cultists except...better small things, like going to ground then getting back into the fight via orders.

feth i forgot commies

The cold war wasn't THAT long ago!