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 Chemical Cutthroat wrote:
Maybe the Japanese Sectorial forces were the first to deal with the Raicho in combat, therefor getting it it's name. Unless of course Raicho is the Morat name, where it would mean something completely different and just happens to be named like something that already exists in an Earth Language.

While not exactly, more or less you got it right.

Ok, shame on you all ! it's clear you didn't buy the books. Raicho's fluff is on Human Sphere book.
The Morat name is Raizot , but by "phonetic corruption", japanese troops of YuJing have made the term Raichô to become quite popular. Raichô, just like the Mythological firebird.
Btw, a funny tip: it is said half of a Raicho's weight is because of extra ammo rounds.

 The CF wrote:
I'm 80% sure that Rai is lightning in japanese (I've seen a little too much anime in my life, and in Pokémon Raikou is the legendary beast of lightning whilst Raichu is a... lighting-mouse).

I can confirm you 100% that Rai means lightning bolt or thunder in this word as well as in Raiden (or any of the Pokemons you named... ).

However that doesn't exactly mean Rai is "lightning" in Japanese. In Japanese language, words can be formed by kanji (pictograms from chinese origin that were imported to Japan around centuries III-IV a.C ) and kana (japanese characters that represent phonetic syllables). Kanjis have two ways to read them, a reading derivated from an old chinese form called "chinese reading", and the japanese reading. Each kanji has at least one "chinese reading" (but it can has more, most of the tims a pair, sometimes three) and it can has one or several japanese readings. When to apply the proper read is one of the things any student of the language must deal with, but in general when a kanji appears alone or accompanied with kana forming a word, the proper read is the japanese one. On the other side, when a word is composed by two or more kanji then 80% of the times the chinese reading is applied. In the case of Raichô the word is compounded by two kanji thunder/lightning bolt + bird. The japanese read for thunder/lightning bolt is "kaminari" and the corresponding one for bird is "tori", but instead of reading "kaminaritori" it is applied the "chinese reading" of each of kanji: RAI for thunder and CHOU ( ô = ou = long vowel sound ) for bird. My point here is that around little more than 2000 kanji are officially known and used in daily life and there can be more than one kanji sharing the same "chinese reading" . As far as I'm concerned there are around 3-5 common kanjis sharing the chinese reading RAI and only one means lightning/thunder, while in the case of CHOU there're are 20-30 commonly used kanji easy.

Janzerker wrote:
it's clear you didn't buy the books.

With that slander settled, I'd say in my defence that the obvious place to look for the fluff on a unit in the main rulebook is in the main rulebook and some of the almost cursory fluff segments in the first rulebook (such as the Raicho has) are not expanded until the unit reaches the website (Irmandinhos, for example). In short, the fact I missed the fluff passage in HS because my search wasn't 100% sure it'd be there - it's not in anyway improbable.

I would still stand by my earlier statements about the Japanese myth - it really doesn't seem to be a major one, and thus an unlikely source of naming.
If I go and search "mythological salamander" on Google, I get lots of pictures and stories. If I search Google Japan for "mythological Raicho" or reasonable variants (using my very limited knowledge of Japanese, I admit), I'm not turning up good hits in images, wikipedia... anywhere I looked. The name in common use seems to almost always refer to the Ptarmigan.

Also, there are phonetic corruptions that would seem more likely - unless Japan's culture doesn't stretch to using given names as slang/naming for weapons (as is common in western culture - see: Archie, Big Bertha, Bouncing Betty, Dora, Little David, Karl-Gerat, Schwerer Gustav....), I guess.

The clock is ticking!

We're getting closer...

...and when Thanksgiving arrives, we'll have something to truly be thankful for!

You are just so excitable!

I'm going to paint mine yellow and brown with big black ears and a white tummy just for you. Maybe give it the tail too.

I was actually avoiding CA for a while, but I started to check out more of the models and I decided building a Morat force would be pretty awesome. Now my Raicho excitement also ramps up! We'll see if I can get this paint scheme to work... Not the yellowbrown one...

And the winner of this month's "Get Out of Jail Free Card" is...

KANLUWEN!

 Kanluwen wrote:

Lololol, good one
Although we can't see much, he does look pretty cool though. At least pose-wisr and by seemingly being quite big. I think.

Who the what now?

It might just be some photoshop trick to fool Alph =P

He's so Raicho crazy and I've yet to see his Jotum.

...not a euphemism.

It would be so sad if the mini didn't hit his expecttions.

 -Loki- wrote:
It would be so sad if the mini didn't hit his expecttions.

Sad and yet poetic...

Just proxy a dreadknight...

Its going to be awesome. I know it.


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Edit, anyone who posts in this thread is obligated to buy one, paint it, and then post it in this thread.

I'm not obligated to do that. I'm just the messenger, bearing the news for Alpharius to be happyface about the Raicho.

Next month though, I'm starting the "Where's the Gecko?!" thread.

The Gecko does sound fun. From what I interpret... I'm betting it's a TAG that fits on a standard Infantry base, rather than a 40mm base.

How cool would that be?

I think it'll be a 40mm base, but it's definitely sounding more like "Powered Exoskeletal Battle Armor" ala the "Grey Death Standard" from Battletech rather than the larger TAGs we all know and love.

 Chemical Cutthroat wrote:
The Gecko does sound fun. From what I interpret... I'm betting it's a TAG that fits on a standard Infantry base, rather than a 40mm base.

How cool would that be?

You mean like Achilles?

Actually I'm really looking forward to the Gecko as well ! Although presumably we won't have anything like the wait for it - The guy on the O-12 podcast the other week was talking about waiting for the Raicho for 6 years - I just hope beyond hope that we don't end up with the situation of someone linking the Darth Vader-meme 'Nooooo' soundbite onto this page...

Massive multiple quote stream - LAUNCH!

Von Skyfury wrote:It might just be some photoshop trick to fool Alph =P

Let's hope not!

Chemical Cutthroat wrote:He's so Raicho crazy and I've yet to see his Jotum.

...not a euphemism.

That's what sh... OK, never mind!

And yes, I am a VERY slow painter - but in my defense, we just bought a house, and I've finally got the "Man Cave" section of the basement just about ready - pictures to follow!

-Loki- wrote:It would be so sad if the mini didn't hit his expecttions.

It will be awesome - I've NO doubt!

Kanluwen wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
It would be so sad if the mini didn't hit his expecttions.

Sad and yet poetic...

"Get Out of Jail Free Card" revoked!

Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Its going to be awesome. I know it.

Yes!

Kanluwen wrote:I'm not obligated to do that. I'm just the messenger, bearing the news for Alpharius to be happyface about the Raicho.

Next month though, I'm starting the "Where's the Gecko?!" thread.

"Get Out of Jail Free Card" reinstated!

Also, that might have to be my new Infinity obsession - the Gecko! Still bummed that it didn't get 'climbing +'!

 Pacific wrote:

Actually I'm really looking forward to the Gecko as well ! Although presumably we won't have anything like the wait for it - The guy on the O-12 podcast the other week was talking about waiting for the Raicho for 6 years - I just hope beyond hope that we don't end up with the situation of someone linking the Darth Vader-meme 'Nooooo' soundbite onto this page...

Has the o-12 Podcast improved?

I haven't listened to it since the start - as it was too painful to do so...

I'm okay with the Gecko not having Climbing Plus, since it gets Zero-G Terrain instead.

I'd say get your Gecko talk out of my Raicho thread but...

...help me out!

How is Zero-G better than Climbing Plus?

 Alpharius wrote:
I'd say get your Gecko talk out of my Raicho thread but...

...help me out!

How is Zero-G better than Climbing Plus?

Opens up some really interesting avenues when playing with the Zero-G Terrain rules.

Bear in mind:

Zero-G Terrain: This is where gravity force is very weak or non-existent, requiring a different sense of direction and movement. Zero-G Terrain includes zones with atmosphere and pressure and also exterior vacuum. Possible Zero-G scenarios would be freight zones of great spacecrafts, the exterior rings of space or orbital bases, the corridors of spaceships or bases with disabled artificial gravity, etc.

Zero-G Terrain is "Impassable" for anything which does not have the ZGT rule...which applies to a very large amount of Corregidor models.
Hellcats, Tomcats, and Wildcats all have ZGT. Zondcats have ZGT as well. Intruders and the Transductor Zond both have Multiterrain, allowing for them to pick ZGT if they know the rule will be in effect.

Given how often you're going to run into Zero-G terrain, I'm definitely certain that Climbing Plus would have been better!

 Alpharius wrote:
Given how often you're going to run into Zero-G terrain, I'm definitely certain that Climbing Plus would have been better!

Point.

But it does make the Gecko fit in a bit better with the CJF and the supposed role it plays in boarding actions, etc.

If it were me, I would have gone Multiterrain and Climbing Plus.

Studio Giraldez wrote:506likes........ Let`s go to 550 and I will make the article with airbrush for the Raicho

Kanluwen wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Given how often you're going to run into Zero-G terrain, I'm definitely certain that Climbing Plus would have been better!

Point.

But it does make the Gecko fit in a bit better with the CJF and the supposed role it plays in boarding actions, etc.

If it were me, I would have gone Multiterrain and Climbing Plus.

That certainly would have been more useful but, as you mention, possibly not 'Fluff True'!

Casey's Law wrote:

Studio Giraldez wrote:506likes........ Let`s go to 550 and I will make the article with airbrush for the Raicho

Not too long now then!

 Alpharius wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Given how often you're going to run into Zero-G terrain, I'm definitely certain that Climbing Plus would have been better!

Point.

But it does make the Gecko fit in a bit better with the CJF and the supposed role it plays in boarding actions, etc.

If it were me, I would have gone Multiterrain and Climbing Plus.

That certainly would have been more useful but, as you mention, possibly not 'Fluff True'!

Can you understand why I like CB so much now?

They're at 537 now.

Up to 542 now! Just added my like

Alpharius - I thought the O-12 podcast wasn't that bad, although I have only listened to the most recent couple. A couple of the guys are pretty light-hearted and funny, one of them not so much and perhaps a bit too serious (although that plays them well off of each other). I usually have it on in the background when I'm doing something else!

I think they'd benefit from an editor too - what's the length of these podcasts again?

 Alpharius wrote:
I think they'd benefit from an editor too - what's the length of these podcasts again?

Too long, IMO.

I want to like them. I really do. But they are a bit lengthy.