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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 14:36:57
Subject: Trying to trim a 1500 tau + eldar list need help
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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This is my first time playing Tau and first time playing Eldar so going by pure theory I've come up with:
Shas’el – 50 +shield drones 15 +15 shield drone + 20 plasma + 12 (missle) + target lock 5
Elites –
Shas’ui 25 + 5 (multi-tracker) + 20 plasma + 12 missle = 65
Shas’ui 25 + 5 (multi-tracker) + 20 plasma + 12 missle = 65
Shas’ui 25 + 10 (target array ) + 20 plasma + 12 missle = 75 + 18 +30
(team leader +5) + 15 shield drone + 15 shield drone + Hard wired target lock 5 + HW blacksun filter 3 + HW multi-tracker 5
Troops
FW – 10 (x7) + 10 team leader = 80 +3 bsf
FW – 10 (x7) +10 team leader = 80 +3 bsf
FW – 10 (x7) +10 team leader = 80 +3 bsf
D-fish
80 + 5 (d.pods)
Heavy
Broadsides
218
Multi-tracker
2 shield drones 30
BSF + HW target lock = 8
Hammerhead x2
Rail + burst cannons +bsf + disruption pods = 160
Rail + missles + bsf + disruption pods + multi-tracker = 180
Eldrad 210 (basically replacing my marker lights and giving me psy protection as well as some barebones counter CC unit)
Pathfinders x5 = 120
Aegis – 100 (with quad gun)
I'm trying to trim this down to 1500 but not sure where to go with the above. As above, it's sitting at 1700 even. Help me dakka!
more crisis suits? markerlights? less hammerhead? rangers instead of pathfinders? get rid of eldrad?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 15:34:34
Subject: Trying to trim a 1500 tau + eldar list need help
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm going to say something really controversial here. If you need to trim some points, why not drop Eldrad and instead take a Farseer with Runes of Warding and Spirit Stones (here comes the flaming) with the 2 powers that you want most. That should save you some points.
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-Tom Leighton
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-Former 17 year old intro welcomer for dank post count. Pls forgive me <3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 17:18:38
Subject: Trying to trim a 1500 tau + eldar list need help
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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agree with rampage also if you are going to take eldar and a quadgun throw in a fire dragon squad with crackshot/tankhunting exarch for 112 pts more...ignores cover and reroll to pen and reroll wounds = awesome have him man the quad gun and watch the tears from your opponent flow. I know nothing about tau but if you could fit in some guardian jetbikes you will be happy and also try to get at least 3 war walkers with 2 shuricannons in there adding all of this would add 1 elite 1 troop and 1 heavy support but a lot more mobility and dakka for like 300 or so points more...drop some tau to make room for it and you will not be sad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 21:36:58
Subject: Re:Trying to trim a 1500 tau + eldar list need help
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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hrm.. interesting ideas. I was going to have eldrad on the quad gun but I can see some benefit in the crackshots being used. The reason for eldrad is mostly because I need to cast 2 divination buffs on different units and for similar, I'd need 2 farseers as far as I know only eldrad can cast 2 of the same powers at the same time.
The list isn't really all that mobile in the current phase I think but was hoping to just camp my side objectives so wanted more guns to stay far far away.
The fire dragons would probably be out of range of everything for the entire time other than quad gun management I'd imagine in that scenario.
Warwalkers would be competing with broadsides and hammerheads. I'm honestly not sure which way to go here. (I can always sub in some dreads for the walkers I suppose) Less anti-tank but alot more anti-infantry.. hrm.. tough call I'll have to math it out. Also might be good at throwing up enough bullets to threaten necron fliers?
I really don't expect to see more than 3 fliers at 1500's for most games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 22:28:24
Subject: Re:Trying to trim a 1500 tau + eldar list need help
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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sudojoe wrote:I'd need 2 farseers as far as I know only eldrad can cast 2 of the same powers at the same time.
Nope, 1 Farseer with Spirit Stones casts 2 powers per turn.
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-Tom Leighton
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/15 03:17:41
Subject: Re:Trying to trim a 1500 tau + eldar list need help
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Nope, 1 Farseer with Spirit Stones casts 2 powers per turn.
but not same power however. Eldrad can. I see it as buffing the shooting of 2 seperate units instead of markerlighting something. (also providing some psy protection vs chaos/nids/ GK/ SW/other eldar)
Maybe I'm just overthinking this and just throw down more crisis suits?
I own about 4 broadsides, 2 hammerheads with rail guns (one with missles, the other with burst cannons)
as well as 30 fire warriors, 1 d.fish, 13 crisis suits of various equipments.
Also sniper drone team as well as a buttload of gun/shield drones
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/15 04:22:40
Subject: Trying to trim a 1500 tau + eldar list need help
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Acolyth
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If it's a BRB power, and you have enough charges, I think you can cast the same power twice. I rarely ever get rid of my fortune though so maybe not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/15 06:56:59
Subject: Trying to trim a 1500 tau + eldar list need help
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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kalcan wrote:If it's a BRB power, and you have enough charges, I think you can cast the same power twice. I rarely ever get rid of my fortune though so maybe not.
The eldar codex under farseer pag 26 I think, under spirit stones: "A farseer cannot use the same psychic power twice in the same turn"
While eldrad Page 51 says under Staff of Ulthamar "If Eldrad is not in an assault, it can allow Eldrad to use a thrid psychic power per turn, which may be a psychic power he has already used that turn"
His divination power of repositioning things in the army can also be useful when I go first or to save on a jump shoot jump position movement.
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