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IIRC Chaplains are the priests of the space marine chapters. And Grey Knights are a chapter of super religious psykers. So why dont They have any chaplains? Am i missing something? Please explain this to me.

Depends on your choice of source material. Grey Knights by Ben Counter would indicate the Chaplains rarely take the battlefield, much like prognosticars. Alternatively, they are so sure of themselves and their purity that they have no use for chaplains. Remember, the Chaplains are there to keep marines in line. The Grey Knights may believe that it's unnecessary for them.

Ruleswise, who knows. Maybe Ward wanted the Brotherhood Champion to work and couldn't figure out a way to have both in the codex without being totally redundant.

Canonically, the Grey Knights do not have Chaplains at all, since the purpose of a Chaplain is to oversee the spiritual well-being of the chapter (e.g. monitor the chapter's psykers for chaos influence, uphold morale, etc). Since the Grey Knights are a chapter made up entirely of some of the most highly trained psykers in the Imperium, they really have no need for a Chaplain position. That is, they are fully capable of watching over themselves, a notion that is backed up by the fact that no GK has ever fallen to chaos (which has been one of the central GK fluff bits for awhile now).

That they could have them is still possible. As GreyHamster said, they might not be around much, preferring instead to remain on Titan (perhaps for the training of new recruits, who would need to be watched carefully).

It's also possible that their role is simply included in the duties of a Grand Master or Brother-Captain, if the need arises.

Though again, if you're a strict canonist, Chaplains do not appear in the GK chapter organization (as far as we know) because the GK's are "immune" to chaos and therefore have no need for them.

Lexicanium wrote:
Chaplain
Grey Knights Chaplains fulfil the same functions as in other Marine chapters, albeit on a much higher level, as they have to minister to the spiritual needs of soldiers destined to fight the most horrible of foes. They are rare specimens indeed, and the Chapter has precious few of them. Yet, thanks to them, not one Grey Knight has fallen to Chaos.

I would think that perhaps this is due to Inquisitorial influence on the Chapter. One of the major duties of the Chaplains is to inspire their charges with the communal spirit of the Space Marines and establish some sort of "Astartes identity", is it not? I would think it is safe to say, however, that the Ordo Malleus would prefer to drive a wedge between the GKs and their fellow Brother Marines, if only because they may some day fight one another on nothing but some Inquisitor's orders. Making the GKs think they are part of something larger than the Inquisition may be regarded as counter-productive.
Just a thought, though. My own expertise in this field is fairly limited, so take with a grain of salt.

Also, obligatory "there is no canon in 40k" remark, hence all the books telling you something different. Roll with what you prefer, either based on content or origin (the GW studio, some favoured BL author, ...).

And please keep in mind that Lexicanum, too, is in the end just a wiki edited by the same kind of fans that are posting in this thread.

Because they're all heretic psyker sorcerers, of course.

At least, that's the fluff justifying why my Blood Angels fight them every other week.

 prophet102 wrote:
IIRC Chaplains are the priests of the space marine chapters. And Grey Knights are a chapter of super religious psykers. So why dont They have any chaplains? Am i missing something? Please explain this to me.

Rulewise, the brotherhood champions act similar to chaplans. Fluffwise, there are chaplans, but they just kind of chill on Titan doing their own thing.


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 Mannahnin wrote:
Because they're all heretic psyker sorcerers, of course.

At least, that's the fluff justifying why my Blood Angels fight them every other week.

Ah, but perhaps the fact that you keep fighting them is a sign that your Blood Angels are, in fact, the heretic psyker sorcerers...

Nonsense!

My Blood Angels rarely bring psykers nowadays, preferring to rely on the mighty psychic defenses of our faithful Eldar allies, to explode the brains of the evil heretic psyker sorcerers, as well as those of the Tyranid Menace (tm).

We're not heretics! Just ask our trusty Xenos allies!

Is a GK player actually complaining about not having a unit given to the other MEQ? What's next? Storm shields?

How about you just celebrate the most OP dex possibly ever? It's right there with 3rd Ed CSM for crying out loud.

 Lobukia wrote:
Is a GK player actually complaining about not having a unit given to the other MEQ? What's next? Storm shields?

How about you just celebrate the most OP dex possibly ever? It's right there with 3rd Ed CSM for crying out loud.

Perhaps you should calm down and realize he's asking about why a religious specialty appears absent from an apparently devout Chapter. Your whining is unnecessary in a lore-oriented discussion.

Thought GK had chaplins. The BL book or Omnibus had that chaplin showing up all over the place.

 sudojoe wrote:
Thought GK had chaplins. The BL book or Omnibus had that chaplin showing up all over the place.

Chaplain Durendin, courtesy of Ben Counter. He was a secondary character throughout parts of Ben Counter's Grey Knights series, and the source of some consternation amongst fans who thought Counter was taking too many liberties with the established canon of the time. (Remember, this was pre-5th edition Daemonhunters, not the GK's of today).

Nowadays, I imagine people probably don't care nearly as much if you choose to model some of your Grey Knight characters as "chaplain-esque," on account of there being other far more... questionable fluff decisions present in the new codex.

 Lobukia wrote:
Is a GK player actually complaining about not having a unit given to the other MEQ? What's next? Storm shields?

How about you just celebrate the most OP dex possibly ever? It's right there with 3rd Ed CSM for crying out loud.

Boring.

 Xca|iber wrote:


Nowadays, I imagine people probably don't care nearly as much if you choose to model some of your Grey Knight characters as "chaplain-esque," on account of there being other far more... questionable fluff decisions present in the new codex.

Well, if the new Grey Knight Codex does make hobbyists more creative and loosens their slavery to fluff-lawyers, than it surely must have succeeded in the first and most important task of any hobby supplement: Getting people creative!