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HQ:
WL, TWM, SS, TH, RA,2xFW, SoTB
280pts

RP, CoTS
110pts

T:
10x GH 2x PG WS Rhino
10x GH 2x PG WS Rhino
10x GH 2x MG WS Rhino
9x GH FL WS Rhino
1000pts

Fast:
4xTWC, 4xSS, 1xPF
350pts

Heavy:
6x LF 5x ML 140pts
6x LF 5x ML 140pts
6x LF 5x ML 140pts

So this is my hard hitting SW list, its also all the stuff i like so its a fun list too. i dont know if 4 troop units is enough but im hoping the TWC and WL unit will kill a lot of stuff or at least soak up fire power from the enemy. the WL and TWC unit is alot of points, i understand that but i really like the WL fluff and i want a unit to be feared on the table. so deathstar unit, psyker defense, anti-infantry, anti-tank, troops....am i missing anything, oh yeah AA

did you think of using drop pods? insterad of rhino's

List is real solid , played correctly you will win a lot more than you lose ,

I would go with 1 less LF unit and maybe add a bunch of FW to soak up wounds for TWC

first off- i forgot that i had MoTW in 3 of the GH units.

Drop pods-i get this alot when i make list and i usally have 1. in 5th i played an all DP list and i did ok with it. but that was 5th, so new edition. the main reason i use rhinos over more pods is keeping everything on the table and supporting one another. if i use pods, i block OS on my LF and theres no telling when the other pods come in. also if i go against another DP list i can protect the LFs and the GH by using the rhinos as cover.


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to mk2, i thought long and hard about that! i think it would fit the theme perfect. how many do you think i should use?

Personally, I'd drop a Thunderwolf and Stormshield along with the Chooser to grab and Aegis line for the cover and quad gun.

I figure the Rune Priest will be running Divination no matter what so I don't see why you'd bring the chooser. The 4th Thunderwolf is alright; however, I'd want to guarantee a 4+ cover on those Long Fangs no matter what.

No the RP would be running with the GH to help support them and the TWC. everybodies doing this whole RP and LF diviation combo. you lose out on a big value with keeping him in the backround

Never said to attach him to the Long Fangs...I figured he'd be pushing up the middle and you'd want Divination on him because re-rolling to hit Thunderwolves sound much better than a few Missile Launchers.

Sorry to say most of the community is so short sighted that they're still trying to make missile spam work when it just doesn't do the job it once did.

how do you figure missile spam doesnt work? MLs are still one of the best weapons in the game. if not those, what other heavy weapon would you suggest for SW?

Missile Spam suffers from a shift away from vehicles to more infantry centric lists. Immediately, you can see how Heavy Bolters and Plasma Cannons get a new lease on life.

I've usually run 1 unit of 2 PC 2 ML Long Fangs and they have always served me well. Recently, I went with a 4 Heavy Bolter unit that subsequently chewed through Warrior Squads and forced so many saves on my buddy's Deathwing that he gained respect for them.

In your case I would grab maybe a pair of Plasma Cannons and that would be about it. The missiles will still have their place for Vehicles amd Infantry but the Plasma will help soften Terminators and deny some units Feel No Pain that would otherwise be an annoyance.

thanks for all the input. im surprised know one said anything about the amount of points i put in the WL, but like i said its a themed list. how do you think it would do in most regular games and local tournament settings?

 esolo2200 wrote:
thanks for all the input. im surprised know one said anything about the amount of points i put in the WL, but like i said its a themed list.

Ha, if you are bringing a Wolf Lord, bring a real one. Keep the cheap lords at home. Otherwise, I think the list looks good.

cool, i look forward to running it soon

Would you pm if and when you put up a battle report please? Cheers

IMO the rune priest should stick with codex powers - Jaws for one to help with necrons, monstrous creatures, and anyone with a low I. I use 2 long fang squads and they do well since they can still use a blast template. That meta has not shifted yet. The wolf lord is really close to how I run mine...he is awesome. The big difference between you and I is that my GH lists are 5 man squads because they usually don't make it into combat with the new assault rules, vehicle rules, over watch, and the random length.

so, is this enough troop units at this point level? is it ok to put over 600points into the TWC unit?

 esolo2200 wrote:
so, is this enough troop units at this point level? is it ok to put over 600points into the TWC unit?

Yes, it is fine troops wise. I like one more unit but I don't run Twolves. I do not like TWC due to their point cost, not worth it IMO. But they are good, it's a preference thing.

AA is a definitely problem for you but you could take a skyshield instead of the a line so you have better LOS and a 4+ inv.

I do think though that the quad gun would be helpful to you.

rethought the list:

HQ:
WL, TWM, SS, TH, 2xFW, RA, SoTB
280pts

RP, CoTS
110pts

T:
10x GH 2x PG WS Rhino
10x GH 2x PG WS Rhino
10x GH 2x MG WS DP
9x GH FL WS Rhino
790pts

Fast:
4xTWC, 4xSS. 1xPF
350pts

10xFW

Heavy:
6x LF 5x ML 140pts
6x LF 5x ML 140pts
6x LF 5x HB 115pts

so i took the MoTW away, not sure if its really worth the 45 pts in this edition, i also made the on eLF unit HB and added a pack of FWs to fit with the theme. so hows this instead?

Could you get plasma cannons instead of heavy bolters. The plasmas are at least threatening to vehicles as they are ap 2 and higher strength. Heavy bolters are just very mediocre.

i could take the FWs out and change the HB to PC, do you think that would be better? do i really need MoTW on the GH? there pretty choppy without it.

I personally like it expecially with the banner.

I prefer the plasma because ap 2 is important this ed.

Heavy bolters dont kill marines or most transports reliably and are a joke vs monsterout creatures and terminators.

Only downfall is they cant shoot flyers.

But any good flyer (not all i know but alot) have av 12 so the h bolters could not hurt them anyways.

Overall, I liked the first iteration better. To me bringing Fen Wolves is just like putting more points into the TWC.

The single Heavy Bolter unit is nice though. I only take MLs or HB with my Devs/LFs. I don't like paying the premium for PCs.

To be honest, the Fenrisian Wolves really aren't doing anything other than netting an easy kill point. The only time I run a big unit of them is if I am taking 2-3 Lords and putting them in a unit of Fenrisian Wolves.