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I've got about 1600pts of old metal grey knights, maybe 15 or so with a few special weapons in power armour, 7 terminators 2 with psycannons and a converted apothacary, a converted brotherhood champion, a nicely converted dreadnought with power fist w/flamer and TLLC, Borther Capt. Stern, a vindicare assasin and finally Draigo.

Not really enough for a decent list but I'd like to get some use out of these great models by adding a small detachment to my marine army.

Wondering what you guys think of this idea, bring in draigo as mandatory detachment HQ, a solo-din covers the troop choice and then a vindicare assasin fills the elite squad.

For 465pts I get a solo-din back field objective camper, a CC monster beatstick in the form of Draigo and a badass vindicare assasin.

What I would lose at 2k pts is a full TAC termi squad with 2 ACs and 2 chain fists.

Is this just totally insane or practical in any way.

I've looked at other options to get the vindicare assasin into my army, like a cheapo but rather lacklustre brotherhood champion and a 5 man strike squad with a psycannon but it doesn't seem quite as appealing.

I don't care how tough Draigo is. 465 points for 3 infantry models is NUTS and you will find yourself sorely outnumbered. Take it from a guy who runs all jumppacks and is always outnumbered as a result...

If you just want the assassin in, take a cheap Brotherhood Champion with a normal unit of PA or Termies to keep the cost down.

coteaz is technically cheaper and can take like 12 points of henchmen.

The normal inquisitors are stuck at a strike squad price.

consider a storm raven though if you are set at using 400 points. It could bring alot to the table for you.

 sudojoe wrote:
coteaz is technically cheaper and can take like 12 points of henchmen.

The normal inquisitors are stuck at a strike squad price.

consider a storm raven though if you are set at using 400 points. It could bring alot to the table for you.

That would mean buying new models which goes against the whole point of getting some use out of the great GK models I already have.

Anyway I've completely re-worked my SM list to fit in a more useful GK detachment, with 5 termies, draigo, the assasin and a the dread.

You should simply just take any HQ, some troop terminators, and then your vindicare. Draigo and paladins are the "shiny" in the codex, the sooner you learn to play without the shiny parts, the better you will be as a player.

The vindicare stinks. Have fun watching him get insta popped in almost every game. If you are going to take draigo take some things that will make use of his grandmaster abilities (scoring th/ss anyone?)

I disagree with the Vindicare sucking - stick him in decent cover and you have a good chance of taking out a couple of choice targets before he's removed. The ability to place all his shots is fantastic in 6th - it's all too easy to pick off squad leaders, possible challengers, special weapons etc.
Sure, he might get a lot of attention but that's what the cover's for. Not just the save - line of sight blocking too.

 juraigamer wrote:
You should simply just take any HQ, some troop terminators, and then your vindicare. Draigo and paladins are the "shiny" in the codex, the sooner you learn to play without the shiny parts, the better you will be as a player.

Again this comes down to the models I have, my old metal termies are set up as a paladin squad with 2 heavies and the apothacary, I think I have the extra models to make them a standard termi squad though, I read something about pallies losing their look out sir! so they're probably no longer worth the extra points with no allocation wound tricks, although sticking draigo at the front with T5 2+3++ and EW to shrug off incoming fire like I do with my TAC termies and lysander could still work.

 Super Ready wrote:
I disagree with the Vindicare sucking - stick him in decent cover and you have a good chance of taking out a couple of choice targets before he's removed. The ability to place all his shots is fantastic in 6th - it's all too easy to pick off squad leaders, possible challengers, special weapons etc.
Sure, he might get a lot of attention but that's what the cover's for. Not just the save - line of sight blocking too.

Every time I've had them used against me they've posed a real threat to my vehicles and they're almost always receiving a 2+ cover save making them tough to kill.

Being realistic I don't think I'm going to be able to work in a worthwhile detachment in games under 2k with what I have in terms of models, being as both armies are on the higher end of the points cost scale.

Have you considered trying this the other way round? Fielding a GK army with Marine allies...?

 Super Ready wrote:
Have you considered trying this the other way round? Fielding a GK army with Marine allies...?

I hadn't thought of that, but with what I have I'm not sure I could make a cohesive GK list or whether bringing in some SM would do anything to make it more effective.

Most of the stuff I have I used to run as allies back in 4th edition so it's a bit of an odd mix for trying to build a more up to date list.

Mike712 wrote:

 Super Ready wrote:
Have you considered trying this the other way round? Fielding a GK army with Marine allies...?

I hadn't thought of that, but with what I have I'm not sure I could make a cohesive GK list or whether bringing in some SM would do anything to make it more effective.

Most of the stuff I have I used to run as allies back in 4th edition so it's a bit of an odd mix for trying to build a more up to date list.

You should post what models you have in the army list forum and see what people can help you come up with.