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Well,I don't really see a great deal of difference between a cult and a religion. Both have organised worship and beliefs that may or may not be directed towards a god. Both generally deal with matters of the spirit. Both can require dressing up in funny clothes

The basic fundamentals of a religion and a cult are the same as far as I am aware. The only difference really is a religion has gotten to a size where it can force people to stop calling it a cult.

Not sure how "kid of presidential candidate" turned into the Atheists v. The World thread, but I'm just going to leave this here:

Yeah, that's probably a good end to the atheism vs. religion off-topic digression.

So to drag this kicking and screaming back on topic - speaking as a foreigner with no bias towards either party, how the feth is Romney getting away with this? I know it was his son that actually did it, but either way it looks incredibly shady....

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
....well I suppose if you count protestant as a form of Catholic that's correct.

Wait what??

KalashnikovMarine wrote:....well I suppose if you count protestant as a form of Catholic that's correct.

There's been two Roman Catholic Presidents and we shot both of them.

(Lincoln and Kennedy)

There has only been one Roman Catholic POTUS.

 AustonT wrote:

KalashnikovMarine wrote:....well I suppose if you count protestant as a form of Catholic that's correct.

There's been two Roman Catholic Presidents and we shot both of them.

(Lincoln and Kennedy)

There has only been one Roman Catholic POTUS.

Yeah I got corrected on that else where, not sure why I thought Lincoln was Catholic.

Because Vampire Hunters are Catholic?

 AustonT wrote:
Because Vampire Hunters are Catholic?

Only the good ones.

 Alfndrate wrote:
Ohio is always important.... Idk why, though it only takes like 9 counties out of like... 83? to turn the state from Republican to Democrat... Other than that, we are a red state.

Ohio is important because if you give the Republicans all the states they will win in a presidential election where they're somewhat competitive (so basically what McCain won plus Indiana and North Carolina) then you get to 197 votes. From there you have to start figuring out different ways to get the other 73 votes needed to carry the Whitehouse, and if you don't include Ohio then not many of them make much sense. So, for instance, it isn't that unlikely that in an election the Republicans might win states like Ohio and New Hampshire... but to suggest they might win them in an election where they couldn't manage to win Ohio doesn't make a lot of sense.

The Democrats actually have some plausible ways to win the election without carrying Ohio, but it means they basically can't put a foot wrong elsewhere.

I mentioned this on another thread, but maybe the USA could look to Chavez on how to run an election - observers had said it is one of the best run, and corruption free elections they have ever seen. And yet, Chavez is a dictator to most sections of the USA. No wonder I'm always confused

Land of the free = election problems

Evil 3rd world Joe Commie tyrant = model election

I can't criticise the USA that much, because UK elections have been dogged by problems as well. But for the son of a candidate to have influence over a company providing vote counting machines... What the feth!!

Still, looking forward to November.