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Which primarch do you think will be most difficult for forge world to make?
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Rules or just model wise?

Sorry should have been more specific, model wise.

I'd say Sanguinius, FW does do some epic wings. This guy would have to be on a completely different level though.

The issue with Sanguinius would be the wings being stupidly fragile. Definitely would be him.

I think Alpharius Omegon would be pretty hard to make him look different in comparison to a normal marine, if we're going by HH fluff. They're supposed to blend in with their legion if I recall correctly. I suppose giving them 'fancier' armour for the sake of differentiation would help.

I would be more skeptical of some but after seeing Angron. Ya I think they will look just fine. My only complaint is how long do I have to wait till my primarchs come out?

Not a Primarch.. but the Emperor will surely unleash lots of controversy.

How do you make him stand out, even against the Primarchs, and not go down some silly Christmas-tree route that most third-party makers seem to favour. Or if they do a Christmas-tree-bling-Emperor, I'll probably not like it.

I guess, to a lesser degree, all loyalist "main-stream" Primarchs (Guilliman, Dorn, Lion, etc..) run the danger of falling to the silly Christmas-tree symptom.

 Zweischneid wrote:
Not a Primarch.. but the Emperor will surely unleash lots of controversy.

How do you make him stand out, even against the Primarchs, and not go down some silly Christmas-tree route that most third-party makers seem to favour. Or if they do a Christmas-tree-bling-Emperor, I'll probably not like it.

I guess, to a lesser degree, all loyalist "main-stream" Primarchs (Guilliman, Dorn, Lion, etc..) run the danger of falling to the silly Christmas-tree symptom.

What's Christmas-tree syndrome? Just too much bling? They're Primarchs, the most decorated generals and warriors of the Imperium and the Emperor's sons. They'd have to be pretty blinged out.

I think the hardest would be Alpharius/Omegon, because in the fluff they're supposed to be able to go in cognito as Alpha Legionnaires, so making them subtle and distinct enough to retain that while still remaining visibly as Primarchs will be most challenging.
Also Magnus will be very hard. But I suppose it would finally address whether the great eye of Magnus is really just him being a cyclops, missing an eye with a visible scar, or missing an eye entirely, or with a third eye on his forehead. And finally, Jaghatai Khan, because I cant imagine him without a jetbike so that'd have to be pretty blinged out too.

I just hope they don't do Jaghatai like he appears in the CCG art and Heresy artbooks. No primarch should wear knee high leather, high heeled boots and a vest.

You know, this one:

Magnus after the battle of Prospero. He's made entirely of psychic energy.

I'd agree with Sanguinus although I imagine he will be the best looking model by far.

I imagine that Ferrus Manus could also be difficult, while there are a lot of ways they could do this I can see this being a real marmite moment to Iron Hands fans, those arms/hands will be tricky I'd think although like Sanguinus, awesome if they pull it off.

The only other ones that would be tricky would be the likes of Dorn, The Lion, Guilliman etc. Although not because they have tricky components or looks, more in the fact that you have to make them stand out / different.

I tend to think FW will have a fair amount of difficulty when they do the daemon prince forms of the various chaos primarchs. They'll have to contend with making the daemon prince both radically daemonic, but with enough details tying them back to their original forms. Each daemon prince will also require unique daemonic physical attributes that further distinguishes each from each other. They will also be physically larger models.

Alpharius/Omegon should be a single standard FW Marine and cost $50. No difference =)

The Emperor is going to be a difficult one, in all the fluff where He appears, it's said that although every detail of his person is visible and blinding in it's radiance, his face can never be seen with any detail.

And an extension on that, Lorgar is billed as the one primarch who looks the most like the Emperor. And is said to generally avoid decorative armour. So apart from the "golden skin" which would have to be up for the painter really, he would basically be a large marine, maybe a bit of bling, with a fancy crozius. In a similar vein to Alpharius/Omegon.

I feel like from the art examples the emporer will be the easiest. I feel khan or ferrus manus with be the hardest. Because there isn't a ton of good artwork for them to go off.

 rems01 wrote:
I just hope they don't do Jaghatai like he appears in the CCG art and Heresy artbooks. No primarch should wear knee high leather, high heeled boots and a vest.

You know, this one:

I like that Khan.
Khan just better have an epic bike.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I like that Khan.
Khan just better have an epic bike.

In the same way some of the Chaos Primarchs will have a Pre-heresy mini and then a second daemon-prince mini... I wouldn't be surprised if they do something like that for Khan and a few of the other loyalist primarchs to maybe balance things.

 rems01 wrote:
I just hope they don't do Jaghatai like he appears in the CCG art and Heresy artbooks. No primarch should wear knee high leather, high heeled boots and a vest.

You know, this one:

I hope they keep all that, and crank it up to eleven. 40k is baroque, huge, and ridiculous. That art covers it better than anything.

I'm thinking Horus will be hard to do. I don't say this because he will be technically harder than anybody else to sculpt, but because if the slightest thing isn't right about him, everyone will jump on it since he's such an important and well-known character.

I think that any of them (albeit particularly Horus or the Emperor) will be pounced upon if not done right. And with 19 (and variants) to do, I suspect at least 1 will indeed receive a duff sculpt. Although - like many others - I was pessimistic of the idea of Primarch rules and models, but so far they seem to have done a great job.

I think Horus will be relatively easy as he's been so frequently depicted and described, ultimately he's s big bald dude with a lot in common with Abaddon. I think he'll probably be one of their best sculpts to be honest. That said, I can't wait to see Mortarion.

I think Sanguinius and Alpharius/Omegon will be difficult for the reasons described above, but I think Magnus will be the most difficult to get right due to how much of his appearance is due to psychic energy, something that would surely be hard to portray on a model.

Either way, I can't wait to see more models.

Model-wise, I think their most difficult task is going to come from the less well-covered Primarchs. Those whose descriptions have been given or displayed, but only rarely or a long time ago. Something that a trivia-maniac would know, but not a sculptor (not even the writers pay attention to the game's history, you can't expect some sculptor to).

Those will create a divided reaction. For example, if Magnus' eye isn't in the middle of his face, it won't be Magnus. He wasn't missing an eye from one side, it was never there. He only had one in the middle.

I think Sanguinius and Guilliman, because between the two they have such a radical fanbase that one tiny thing wrong could cause a full scale riot


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 rems01 wrote:
I just hope they do Jaghatai like he appears in the CCG art and Heresy artbooks. EVERY primarch should wear knee high leather, high heeled boots and a vest.

You know, this one:

Fixed this for ya

 rems01 wrote:
I just hope they don't do Jaghatai like he appears in the CCG art and Heresy artbooks. No primarch should wear knee high leather, high heeled boots and a vest.

You know, this one:

I hope they stray further and further away from John Blanches scribbles. If they kept working with his designs in mind the Primarchs will come out looking more and more stupid.

Have you seen his Alpharius?! Stupidest looking 40k art ever.

You mean this one?

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Model-wise, I think their most difficult task is going to come from the less well-covered Primarchs. Those whose descriptions have been given or displayed, but only rarely or a long time ago. Something that a trivia-maniac would know, but not a sculptor (not even the writers pay attention to the game's history, you can't expect some sculptor to).

Those will create a divided reaction. For example, if Magnus' eye isn't in the middle of his face, it won't be Magnus. He wasn't missing an eye from one side, it was never there. He only had one in the middle.

The cover of A Thousand Sons shows him missing an eye, and it's implied he sold his eye to Tzeentch to stop the flesh change.

the color purple wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Model-wise, I think their most difficult task is going to come from the less well-covered Primarchs. Those whose descriptions have been given or displayed, but only rarely or a long time ago. Something that a trivia-maniac would know, but not a sculptor (not even the writers pay attention to the game's history, you can't expect some sculptor to).

Those will create a divided reaction. For example, if Magnus' eye isn't in the middle of his face, it won't be Magnus. He wasn't missing an eye from one side, it was never there. He only had one in the middle.

The cover of A Thousand Sons shows him missing an eye, and it's implied he sold his eye to Tzeentch to stop the flesh change.

Yes, and it's wrong. Or at least it's inconsistent with the 40k canon. The Abnett-verse is its own canon.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Model-wise, I think their most difficult task is going to come from the less well-covered Primarchs. Those whose descriptions have been given or displayed, but only rarely or a long time ago. Something that a trivia-maniac would know, but not a sculptor (not even the writers pay attention to the game's history, you can't expect some sculptor to).

Those will create a divided reaction. For example, if Magnus' eye isn't in the middle of his face, it won't be Magnus. He wasn't missing an eye from one side, it was never there. He only had one in the middle.

Magnus should look like this!

For a time at least.

Alpharius and Omegeon could be quite interesting to do actually, one could be in full power armour as the legions head figure (wasn't there in a line in the Alpha legion BL book to the effect of Omegeon enjoying being Alpharius when dealing with the other Primarchs?) The second could be in more... non descript clothing, there was an example of one of the twins going around in pretty much heavy rags and robes, almost pretending to be a combat servitor or some such.

 -Loki- wrote:
Magnus after the battle of Prospero. He's made entirely of psychic energy.

That would be easy.

Translucent blue resin would make a nice looking psychic entity.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

Yes, and it's wrong. Or at least it's inconsistent with the 40k canon. The Abnett-verse is its own canon.

Graham McNiel wrote A Thousand Sons. Magnus having just one eye has been retconned. The Heresy books consistently depict him as having one eye in it's normal place and a puckered scar where the other should be. It was part of the bargain struck to save his legion. That's now the canon.

What do you have against Odin anyway DE?