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Sad but true loki

Talia looks much better than I would have thought.

The thing about this game is ... I'm not sure it's really better than playing Arkham City.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Most people involved in Batman & Robin would like it to be forgotten

Whoa whoa whoa.

Not everything ...

I'd love some Entrigan too, but I meant Ra's al Ghul.

In Comic Book land, his name has been translated as "The Demon's Head" or some such.

And you know we'll be getting Ra's eventually...

I'm still waiting for the Arkham version of Azreal!

 Alpharius wrote:
I'd love some Entrigan too, but I meant Ra's al Ghul.

In Comic Book land, his name has been translated as "The Demon's Head" or some such.

And you know we'll be getting Ra's eventually...

I'm still waiting for the Arkham version of Azreal!

Not just in comic book land: "Hamil Ra's Al-Ghul" () is the Arabic name for the constellation Perseus, roughly "Bearer of the Demon's Head".

 -Loki- wrote:

 Empchild wrote:
I would say more didn't want to as opposed to couldnt. They are a business and want people to buy their stuff not hate it.

Oh I'm sure there's people who would buy them for comedic reasons.

Or "ironically".

Order sent and i will be posting all of this to our webstore later for those wanting to order what we have. Nornally i wouldn't dothat but the supply and demand has been big.

 Manchu wrote:
The thing about this game is ... I'm not sure it's really better than playing Arkham City.

Only if you can get your hands on the patch! Didn't get it on Steam so can't patch there, GFWL just sends me to an X-box site and I don't own one, can't find one outside of that, so am stuck battling Ra's as it won't give me the reverse batarang to defeat him! I'm sure that won't happen in the miniatures game!

 Manchu wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Most people involved in Batman & Robin would like it to be forgotten

Whoa whoa whoa.

Not everything ...

Hubba hubba. why is it that I HAD forgotten that diamond in the rough!

TBH, she's a good actress who mailed it in on this one. But it's worth it nonetheless. And don't you think the outfit actually fits the Arkham City aesthetic?

It actually does - though sadly I doubt we'll see her in model form.

I'd bet we get a more modern incarnation of Batgirl though - and that would be OK!

Perhaps they'll do a fan favorites line. One can only hope.

Maybe one of our Spanish speaking users can do a little digging on the whole English rules availability question?

 Alpharius wrote:

I'd bet we get a more modern incarnation of Batgirl though - and that would be OK!

Well, tabletop wise, it'd probably be more useful than an Oracle model. - Although, that'd be a pretty good collectors piece...

Is there an Oracle in the New 52?

From my understanding, there is. sort of... Bab's was Oracle for 6 months or so but 'got better.'

However, she still is in the Arkham-verse

 Manchu wrote:
TBH, she's a good actress who mailed it in on this one. But it's worth it nonetheless. And don't you think the outfit actually fits the Arkham City aesthetic?

She never has been a good actress, esp. not in this weird movie. And a blonde niece of Alfred with an eye mask has nothing to do with Batgirl (red headed daughter of commissioner James Gordon with bat ear mask), not even when wearing leather fetish clothes.

 Alpharius wrote:
Is there an Oracle in the New 52?

No and good riddance.


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 Kroothawk wrote:
She never has been a good actress

As if!

 Manchu wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Is there an Oracle in the New 52?

No and good riddance.

WTF, Manchu?

Babs doesn't need to be imprisoned in a wheelchair when other heroes aren't stopped by death. I despise the special interest group argument that DC needs to keep her in the chair to show that "handicapped people can be superheroes too." As Oracle, Babs was basically a high powered secretary -- NOT a superhero (unless you count comic adventures that occurred purely in virtual reality). If DC or anyone else was actually serious about depicting handicapped people as superheroes they would handle the topic with an A-lister rather than putting another B-list or lower female character "in a refrigerator" and pretending the result is poignant. That's WTF.

 Manchu wrote:
Babs doesn't need to be imprisoned in a wheelchair when other heroes aren't stopped by death. I despise the special interest group argument that DC needs to keep her in the chair to show that "handicapped people can be superheroes too." As Oracle, Babs was basically a high powered secretary -- NOT a superhero (unless you count comic adventures that occurred purely in virtual reality). If DC or anyone else was actually serious about depicting handicapped people as superheroes they would handle the topic with an A-lister rather than putting another B-list or lower female character "in a refrigerator" and pretending the result is poignant. That's WTF.

I never really thought of Oracle as a "high powered secretary"...
By the same vein of her "not being a superhero", I consider Batman to be the same thing.

They are individuals whose true power lies not in their fists but their intellects.

 Kanluwen wrote:
They are individuals whose true power lies not in their fists but their intellects.

Uh no. Please look at any Batman comic, movie, game, etc, and you will see him jumping all over the place and doing bat-fu.

I don't have many red button issues but the idea that Babara Gordon should be kept in a wheelchair is one of them.

I wouldn't call Prof X (wheelchair) or Daredevil (blind) B-list. Both are Marvel though.

Well, I certainly wasn't calling either of them B-list.

Doom Patrol's Chief is also in a wheelchair, Doctor Mid-Night is (in some incarnations) blind, both DC characters.

I've always been fond of Oracle, but at the same time the ease with which various people bounce back from injury was always at odds with Babs' paralysis (Selina Kyle had her heart cut out and replaced and went back to her job as an acrobatic burglar).

Edit: to be somewhat on topic, any pictures of these models in the wild? How are they cast, what is the scale comparison, so on?

Kroothawk wrote:I wouldn't call Prof X (wheelchair) or Daredevil (blind) B-list. Both are Marvel though.

Manchu wrote:Well, I certainly wasn't calling either of them B-list.

No?

Manchu wrote: If DC or anyone else was actually serious about depicting handicapped people as superheroes they would handle the topic with an A-lister rather than putting another B-list or lower female character "in a refrigerator" and pretending the result is poignant.

 Kroothawk wrote:
No?

No.

But it is interesting to see how you actually read my posts ...


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 Buzzsaw wrote:
any pictures of these models in the wild? How are they cast, what is the scale comparison, so on?

Best I can find:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RiKQnaU7sv0/ULuUCzOmDaI/AAAAAAAAG7g/1DzOrK3W9zo/s1600/batmancomparison.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8KWiahiHFYQ/ULuZnV1u5LI/AAAAAAAAG9Q/AaXm3RQjNSs/s1600/5756027.jpg

I'm sure there's a better place to debate that topic - every new post in here makes me think the English rules have finally been released!

@alpharius - that's what i keep popping back in to check on in this thread. Every new update i come and hope to see some rules.
The minis are nice, but i don't want to commit to filler models for gangs until i see some rules.

vinsal wrote:
@alpharius - that's what i keep popping back in to check on in this thread. Every new update i come and hope to see some rules.
The minis are nice, but i don't want to commit to filler models for gangs until i see some rules.

Probably the best way to go for now - stick to the personalities, and wait (and hope!) for the best!

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm sure there's a better place to debate that topic - every new post in here makes me think the English rules have finally been released!

Why tell me that because now i just want to be sadistic. Does anyone have a link to the spanish rules. I have time so at this point i will just do a rough English version.

 Kroothawk wrote:

That's a little too cartoony for Arham City.

Weirdly though I've played the game so much that I know where in the city that is...