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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 12:53:35
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Crazed Troll Slayer
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I personally will buy anything they put out from the animated series, whether I even liked the character or not. It's some of my favorite animation of all time, and I cannot wait to get to paint these.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 13:01:45
Subject: Re:Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Here are the other releases this month. Also wonderland gang tokens.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 13:03:47
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Ok, Black Manta is an interesting choice... Must be gearing up for the supers game... Katana I might need to see from some other angles, looks a bit off at the moment but that might just be the pic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 13:05:52
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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And it's the original animated characters, not the redone versions that came about around the 3rd or 4th season (I think!). That's nice.
Riddler's mech is pretty cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 13:08:29
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Serious Squig Herder
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Looove the Animated Batman/Catwoman. *sigh* - I will be having to buy all of these now I suppose.
I wonder if they we be doing the whole "gangs" approach and everything for the animated line?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 13:16:21
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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I think Katana is the most interesting this month. The BTAS releases are nice but I'll wait until there is enough of them I can do gangs all in that style. Otherwise it's breathing room to catch up with all those earlier Joker releases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 14:03:43
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Crazed Troll Slayer
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I really like the Riddler mech, but if you look at the bottom of that picture to its base... it looks like it will be really annoying to base and play with that thing. I could be wrong, but it just looks like a piece that they are cramming on a 50mm base and should probably be on something more like an 80mm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 14:18:02
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
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H.B.M.C. wrote:And it's the original animated characters, not the redone versions that came about around the 3rd or 4th season (I think!). That's nice.
Actually I think it's mixed. Catwoman is the one from the first three seasons, but Batman is from the last season. The key differences are that the bat symbol in the first three seasons is set against a yellow oval and the cape is has a blue interior.
Out of all the characters in the series Batman changed the least during the last season so you could probably paint him either way, but I really hope the rest of the characters are from the first three seasons. The aesthetics were far superior.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 15:31:31
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Pugnacious_Cee wrote:I really like the Riddler mech, but if you look at the bottom of that picture to its base... it looks like it will be really annoying to base and play with that thing. I could be wrong, but it just looks like a piece that they are cramming on a 50mm base and should probably be on something more like an 80mm.
This has been discussed before, with many models. Swamp Thing, Titan Joker, Titan Bane, The Butcher--they're all very large for a their bases. But, Knight models keeps all Large models on the same base for "gaming purposes."
Not a fan of it personally, but I get the context.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 17:53:50
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Fixture of Dakka
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I was watching the Animated Series recently.
I really, really disliked the 'Adventures of Batman & Robin' designs - I thought they had become WAY too exaggerated.
Which is kinda why I think The Catwoman model looks like she could belong in a 'typical' force.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 19:27:51
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Wing Commander
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Unix wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:And it's the original animated characters, not the redone versions that came about around the 3rd or 4th season (I think!). That's nice.
Actually I think it's mixed. Catwoman is the one from the first three seasons, but Batman is from the last season. The key differences are that the bat symbol in the first three seasons is set against a yellow oval and the cape is has a blue interior.
Out of all the characters in the series Batman changed the least during the last season so you could probably paint him either way, but I really hope the rest of the characters are from the first three seasons. The aesthetics were far superior.
Which is to bad, I prefer the original BTAS Batman, but that was also based on the comic costume I grew up with so....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/05 00:07:15
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Serious Squig Herder
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wow - seeing them side by side like that the original batman looks a little pudgy compared to the JLU Batman.
I feel like the middle Batman is the sweetspot there. The "just right" porridge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/05 00:12:12
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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By the way, the cards for all of these are on the KM site. Not got time to link them right now, but suffice to say, Black Manta is looking pretty brutal. I thought they'd be saving him for the supers game, but he's definitely in the upper levels of power in BMG.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/05 05:04:23
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Unix wrote:Actually I think it's mixed. Catwoman is the one from the first three seasons, but Batman is from the last season. The key differences are that the bat symbol in the first three seasons is set against a yellow oval and the cape is has a blue interior.
I was talking about Catwoman, but yeah you're right. That isn't quite the original Batman.
That said, there are multiple designs of Batman that would work with this. The Catwoman from later in the show was very simplistic compared to this one, and probably would have been harder to do. I wonder which Penguin they will do, the first one that was very Batman Returns inspired, or the latter one where he was less monstrous and more gentlemanly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/06 00:58:53
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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No Interest in the Mantra. Tempted by the Brute and Katana though. Katana mostly in that it should give me more Arrow Crew options.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/06 01:51:37
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Camouflaged Zero
Maryland
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A full BTAS crew is really tempting, but a Batman Beyond crew would be an auto-buy.
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"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." -Napoleon
Malifaux: Lady Justice
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/08 01:06:39
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Yu Jing Martial Arts Ninja
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Unix wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:And it's the original animated characters, not the redone versions that came about around the 3rd or 4th season (I think!). That's nice.
Actually I think it's mixed. Catwoman is the one from the first three seasons, but Batman is from the last season. The key differences are that the bat symbol in the first three seasons is set against a yellow oval and the cape is has a blue interior.
Out of all the characters in the series Batman changed the least during the last season so you could probably paint him either way, but I really hope the rest of the characters are from the first three seasons. The aesthetics were far superior.
Kind of what I said before. They picked the Batman with the least definition. The first suit is the iconic TAS image. They should have used that one. I'm much less excited now that I've seen this model...
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Is that a natural 21?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/08 17:49:39
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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My eaglemoss order came today. Thought you guys might wanna see how some of the batmobiles scale with the models.
Sorry about the bane photo. Didnt realise how unclear it was until I uploaded it. Will retake that one later.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/09 04:55:59
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Those look cool...except the tumbler. That looks like a tiny ridiculous clown car.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/09 08:39:56
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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Yeah I agree the tumbler is just too small compared to the others. Might still use it as scenery though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/09 08:42:25
Subject: Re:Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
Berlin
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Strange my Tumbler was bigger!
Is the camo Eaglemoss smaller???
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/09 19:04:24
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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Maybe. I don't have both so I cant compare them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/18 02:57:37
Subject: Re:Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Found a pretty good selection and prices for models here:
http://www.tabletopnow.com/search?page=1&q=knight+models
Free shipping over $75 and $10 off orders over $75 with XMAS2015 discount code.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/18 16:05:03
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Knight Models just announced the first group sets for Marvel. Spider-Man and Goblin cult sets will be released next month.
On my phone or I would post pics.
Models have their rule cards at Knoght Models website. And there is a PDF extension of rules from he Batman game to be used for the Marvel models.
Looks like some high point models, with Superior Spider coming in at 200; the highest point model in BMG conversely is 150.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/18 17:04:20
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Pics:
Also on the Spidey page are the classic Spidey (no idea why the led with Superior, to be honest), Daredevil and Punisher.
In all honesty, I'm struggling to see the reasoning behind these releases. I've not read a huge amount of Spidey stuff, but I don't recall the Green Goblin ever having actual 'goblin minions' or Spiderman having spider-henchmen. More generic goons and cops respectively would have been a far better choice, I feel...
Some unusual rules choices in there as well. I like the Strength 2+ on the superhuman characters, and the higher cost caps, but things like giving Spidey a 1/6 auto-fail on any kind of web attack seems a little overdone. His webshooters don't break that often! Automatically Appended Next Post: Also possibly the worst-translated rule I have ever seen on Superior Spidey:
Maximum Efficiency: If this hero don't obtain by himself almost 3VPs by the end of the game, you lose one VP.
Usually I'm willing to give KM the benefit of the doubt on the translation front, but that's just a mess. Automatically Appended Next Post: Holy crap... Venom has 1+ Strength... That makes very little sense to me in a system where Swamp Thing only damages on a 2+... Either these rules are being deliberately made on a totally different level to the BMG ones, or this whole thing just hasn't been thought through...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/18 17:31:37
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Dakka Veteran
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Can't say those appeal to me much but then KM release schedule feels random to me most of the time.
Paradigm wrote:Holy crap... Venom has 1+ Strength... That makes very little sense to me in a system where Swamp Thing only damages on a 2+... Either these rules are being deliberately made on a totally different level to the BMG ones, or this whole thing just hasn't been thought through...
How many Marvel heroes and villain are the around same strength as the Venom or Spiderman? If that's going to lead to a large amount of characters having 2+ or better strength it might be worth them rescaling it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/18 17:37:05
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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durecellrabbit wrote:Can't say those appeal to me much but then KM release schedule feels random to me most of the time.
Paradigm wrote:Holy crap... Venom has 1+ Strength... That makes very little sense to me in a system where Swamp Thing only damages on a 2+... Either these rules are being deliberately made on a totally different level to the BMG ones, or this whole thing just hasn't been thought through...
How many Marvel heroes and villain are the around same strength as the Venom or Spiderman? If that's going to lead to a large amount of characters having 2+ or better strength it might be worth them rescaling it.
It basically precludes them from doing anyone stronger than Spidey, Wolverine, maybe Cap and Iron Man... What really makes no sense to me is Venom's 1+ Strength, that's just mental and out of place; he's stronger than Spiderman, but not that much stronger! With Spidey having Attack 3 and Strength 2+, and Venom being Attack 5 and Strength 1+, the difference between then is just insane. Venom can basically wipe out almost anyone in either game in short order, and is still cheaper than Green Goblin and only a tad more expensive than the likes of Titan Bane, AK Batman and Swamp Thing, and he really needn't be that good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/18 18:05:31
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm hearing the band rep limit is intended to be in the 500 range for this line.
The Cult and the Spidey henchmen definitely make it feel like a forced offshoot of the Batman game. The will be bands where this makes sense, like Hydra and Shield, but if I have to take minions all the time, that's not going to look good with avengers, Xmen and Fantastic Four; very odd since each of those groups already have models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/18 18:11:22
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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The Goblin Minions are from a somewhat recent storyline in which the Goblin had an army of Goblin-esque villains and...yes...minions.
It was at the same time that Dr. Octopus had taken over Peter Parker's body and was calling himself the Superior Spider-Man.
And he had a high tech lab at his disposal, built robots to help him patrol more efficiently and...yes...had minions too, to help him round up the crooks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0052/12/18 18:24:12
Subject: Knight Models: Batman Miniature Game
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Swamp Troll
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Alpharius is absolutely right. I hated that story arc.
It's worth noting that this is not being put out as Marvel Miniatures Game etc. They presented this on FB as the Spider-Man Miniatures Game. So starting from his more close knight group of street heroes, there's a lot more similarities to the BMG.
Even still though, Spidey deals with a LOT of powered bad guys and heroes to boot.
I would imagine we'll see the Maggia, The Hand, Wild Pack, and maybe the Sinister Six.
I would also imagine we'll see Kraven, Stilt Man, Madame Web, and ooh.. Maybe Jackal.. that could be interesting. There could also be Smythe and the Spider Slayers but I don't know if that would be a standalone gang or what.
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