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“Heello ‘umanz! Wot do ya fink if I teel ya that I am from Ghazkull and Grotsnik team band?!
Well you can look to diz list of our army. Ma boss told that me can't show it to enemiz. Wont ya tell to him?! Or I krump your skull!”

I would appreciate your comments about below list idea.

HQ
Grotsnik 160pts
Ghazkhull Thraka 225pts

Troops
20 Shoota Boyz +NOB (PK, BP) 160 pts
20 Shoota Boyz +NOB (PK, BP) 160 pts
12 BurnaBoyz +Truck 225 pts (including points for Truck)
3 Meganobz+Truck 165 pts (including points for Truck)

Elites
9 Lootaz 135 pts
10 Commandos (2 Burna) +Snikrot 205 pts
6 Nob Bikerz(2PK, BP, Cyborg)Painboy 385 pts

Heavy
3 BigGunz(Kannon) +6 extra grotz 78 pts
3 BigGunz(Kannon) +6 extra grotz 78 pts
Battlewagon 130 pts
Battlewagon 130 pts

Fast attack
Dakkajet 135 pts
Dakkajet 135 pts

Total 2506 points

Two battlewagonz with shoota boyz comes from one route and truck with Burna boyz and 6 nob bikerz comes from alternative route. I guess it could bring more chances to reach the enemy with less losts.
Ghazkull with 3 Meganoobz in Truck will sit in reserve until 3rd turn. And then they try to get lucky to become a fast surprise
At the same time Grotsnik with Commandos will try thier chances to come from enemy side of the table - to attract their attention.
And you can see Dakkajets for air support and biggunz (kannonz) and Lootaz for mooore dakka!

grotsnik is not an HQ



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wots on the Battlewagon

Grotsnick is a HQ choice just checked my dex it looks pretty good man lots of target saturation

Drop kommandos as they cannot assault out of reserve, so when they come in you have 11 expensive orks that just get shot to hell and have to take it till your next turn. Replace with more lootas. Oh and burna boyz cannot take a trukk, its a looted wagon or BW fer dem.

Burna boyz can take a trukk sure.. but the armor on the trukk just makes it less safe.. looted wagon is cheap if you want one more armor but.. you got that ¨DONT TOUCH DAT¨.... wait a sec...that might be good if you wanna charge ahead... it doesnt stop untill it hit anything anyway!

Burna boyz are elites so your probably gonna want to drop the kommandos and then max out your loota squad and or boyz squads. Other than that the list looks pretty solid. Best of luck to you!

burna boyz can't buy a dedicated trukk for themselves. You have to have a mob of nobz/boys (no mobz bigger than 12 either!) to purchase a trukk for the burna boyz....


burna boyz cant start game inside that trukk either. they have to embark/zoom into sunset on T1 (as the transport is a dedicated transport for another unit...)

if you bought a heavy support battlewagon or looted wagon, they could start the game in that though.

Thank you all for comments.
I really like the idea to have something that can really hurt if your dice got lucky.
So if commandos not so effectife in 6 edition - mayibe it is better to remove them and change Grotsnik on Warphed.
The idea is to put Warphead into one mob of 30 shoota boyz and try chances to get "here we go"

Another alternative is to take BigMek with SAG inspide of Grotsnik. It is also fun to shoot with those grots comming from WARP.

I should think for a while and then wride down another list in this thread.

 4osen1 wrote:
“Heello ‘umanz! Wot do ya fink if I teel ya that I am from Ghazkull and Grotsnik team band?!
Well you can look to diz list of our army. Ma boss told that me can't show it to enemiz. Wont ya tell to him?! Or I krump your skull!”

I would appreciate your comments about below list idea.

HQ
Grotsnik 160pts
Ghazkhull Thraka 225pts

Troops
20 Shoota Boyz +NOB (PK, BP) 160 pts
20 Shoota Boyz +NOB (PK, BP) 160 pts
12 BurnaBoyz +Truck 225 pts (including points for Truck)
3 Meganobz+Truck 165 pts (including points for Truck)

Elites
9 Lootaz 135 pts
10 Commandos (2 Burna) +Snikrot 205 pts
6 Nob Bikerz(2PK, BP, Cyborg)Painboy 385 pts

Heavy
3 BigGunz(Kannon) +6 extra grotz 78 pts
3 BigGunz(Kannon) +6 extra grotz 78 pts
Battlewagon 130 pts
Battlewagon 130 pts

Fast attack
Dakkajet 135 pts
Dakkajet 135 pts

Total 2506 points

Two battlewagonz with shoota boyz comes from one route and truck with Burna boyz and 6 nob bikerz comes from alternative route. I guess it could bring more chances to reach the enemy with less losts.
Ghazkull with 3 Meganoobz in Truck will sit in reserve until 3rd turn. And then they try to get lucky to become a fast surprise
At the same time Grotsnik with Commandos will try thier chances to come from enemy side of the table - to attract their attention.
And you can see Dakkajets for air support and biggunz (kannonz) and Lootaz for mooore dakka!

this list needs 1 more troop choice to be legal on DFOC as burna boyz are elites not troops.

drop ghazkull
drop grotsnik
drop mega nobz
drop the burnas and their trukk
drop kommandoz and snikrot
drop big gunz
drop the trukk for the burnas
drop the BP from the nob bikers
drop your existing battlewagons down to a deff rolla, and 1-2 big shootas

add a warboss with warbike, cybody, PK, attack squig, and BP and run him with the nob bikers. he's a much more mobile beatstick than ghazkull with more saves and more dakka.
add a big mek with at least KFF to help the battlewagons
add 4 more nob bikers with cybodies to add a bigger punch to the nob bikers and to allow them to soak up more wounds
add another PK and a WAAAGH! banner to the nob bikers
add another mob of boyz at 20 strong with your load out
add 10 burna boyz and make 3 of them meks with big shootas and run them with the big mek in a battlewagon
add 1 more battlewagon with a deff rolla and 1-2 big shootas
add 16 lootas running them in sqauds of 8-8-9 or 12-13

run 2 mobz of boyz in battlewagons and run the burnas with the big mek KFF in the 3rd battlewagons and run them in a wall of AV14 as much as the table allows or strategy allows
the burnaz will be the spearhead taking all the hits as it can and then the big mek and the meks in the burnaz will heal the battlewagon with their mek tools because they wont be in range to burn anything till about turn 3 depending on who your facing. then when they do get in range, broadside an enemy unit with your 9 burna templates.

Thank you Gutstuf for detailed post.
I know that your option with lots of Nob bikers and battlewagons together with BigMek with KFF is more durable list than mine.
However the main idea is to try chances to get lucky with dices for one of four options below:
1. It can be BigMek with SAG (that can really hurt with proper dice value)
2. It can be Warphead (that also could rapidly drop arround units through warp directly to the enemy)
3. It can be Grotsnik with Commandos (but unfortunately it works bad in 6ed)
4. It can be Ghazkull Thraka with Meganobz on Truck in reserve until 3rd turn (Just imagine how your enemy will nervous if he new that there is missle in the reserve that could rapidly blow at any moment)

Do you think that some of this statements worth to spend points for?

Again – just think about how funny it can be to bring some unexpected sudden blow)))

in that case, take a big mek with SAG and old zogwort

The changes i would make, would be... Drop grotsnik, commandos and burna boys... are you just playing 1 FOC? I'll assume you are...

Would give you

Ghazgul (to make manz troops)
biker boss (to make biker nobs troops)

9 lootas

troops:
20 boys kitted nob etc
20 boys kitted nob etc
4 manz w/ trukk 3 kombi skorchas
6 nob bikers
12 boys w/ trukk (kitted nob too)
12 boys w/ trukk (kitted nob too)


jet x 2

battlewagon x 2

puts you at 2279~

leaving 221 to spend.... I would suggest 2 more squads of lootas between 5-10 strong... Or beefing the mega nob unit out to closer to 9 + ghazgull and give them a battlewagon and drop 1 squad of 20 boys down to 12 in a trukk.

Only 45 boyz in a 2500P ARMY i would go for more

 4osen1 wrote:
Thank you Gutstuf for detailed post.
I know that your option with lots of Nob bikers and battlewagons together with BigMek with KFF is more durable list than mine.
However the main idea is to try chances to get lucky with dices for one of four options below:
1. It can be BigMek with SAG (that can really hurt with proper dice value)
2. It can be Warphead (that also could rapidly drop arround units through warp directly to the enemy)
3. It can be Grotsnik with Commandos (but unfortunately it works bad in 6ed)
4. It can be Ghazkull Thraka with Meganobz on Truck in reserve until 3rd turn (Just imagine how your enemy will nervous if he new that there is missle in the reserve that could rapidly blow at any moment)

Do you think that some of this statements worth to spend points for?

Again – just think about how funny it can be to bring some unexpected sudden blow)))

I don't get the point of #4, I really don't. That just gives them the option to kill off your other stuff, and then pop the lonely trukk, which means the MANZ will take forever to reach where they need to go. Put them in a battlewagon, in my opinion. If you want random, grab 45-90 lootas and put them in battlewagons. That should give you a real nice random fix.

 4osen1 wrote:
“Heello ‘umanz! Wot do ya fink if I teel ya that I am from Ghazkull and Grotsnik team band?!
Well you can look to diz list of our army. Ma boss told that me can't show it to enemiz. Wont ya tell to him?! Or I krump your skull!”

I would appreciate your comments about below list idea.

HQ
Grotsnik 160pts Drop him not worth the points sink for what he does
Ghazkhull Thraka 225pts Good

Troops
20 Shoota Boyz +NOB (PK, BP) 160 pts
20 Shoota Boyz +NOB (PK, BP) 160 pts
12 BurnaBoyz +Truck 225 pts (including points for Truck) This unit is illegal 1st there elites 2nd they have no acsess to dedicated transports
3 Meganobz+Truck 165 pts (including points for Truck) Truck gone 1st turn nobs probably gone 1st or second turn get them a wagon and more friends or leave them home

Elites
9 Lootaz 135 pts Good
10 Commandos (2 Burna) +Snikrot 205 pts Drop
6 Nob Bikerz(2PK, BP, Cyborg)Painboy 385 pts Solid

Heavy
3 BigGunz(Kannon) +6 extra grotz 78 pts
3 BigGunz(Kannon) +6 extra grotz 78 pts
Battlewagon 130 pts Need to know what these have
Battlewagon 130 pts

Fast attack
Dakkajet 135 pts
Dakkajet 135 pts

Total 2506 points

Two battlewagonz with shoota boyz comes from one route and truck with Burna boyz and 6 nob bikerz comes from alternative route. I guess it could bring more chances to reach the enemy with less losts.
Ghazkull with 3 Meganoobz in Truck will sit in reserve until 3rd turn. And then they try to get lucky to become a fast surprise
At the same time Grotsnik with Commandos will try thier chances to come from enemy side of the table - to attract their attention.
And you can see Dakkajets for air support and biggunz (kannonz) and Lootaz for mooore dakka!

Here is a unit for you Big mek KFF Burna 12 burna boys with 3 meks Battle wagon with rolla armor plates grot riggers and a few big shootas. If your enemy does not blow it up or wreak it it will most likely never die with the 4 meks inside and if something charges the BW you get 13D3 over watch hits vs it

your nob bikers should be 15 more points.... You forgot a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgh banner... which is a MUST!