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Oh hello there! That popped up quick, your creative vent has an insatiable thirst for plastic. I'm guessing a big Orky face is about to materialize itself on that ramp? That would be wonderful.

Plant shears? That is what the styrene cutters look like. I never thought to use those for the hobby. Great idea. I wonder if I could use tin snips...

Ooo exciting looking project, I love the mad stuff you can do with orks.

EDC

Thank you all.

@ Guildenstern, Thank you , I am hoping to get some accurate measurements but to be honest I am not worried.
@ Zobo, Thank you
@ YnneadwraithMade, your post makes me really happy, glade to help.
@ Vik, Thank you sir.
@ Stonned, It does have a certain something..
@ LDD Thank you
@ dsteingass Thanks Dave, and very probably, definately something growing in my........um sorry.
@ Casey, you read my mind, just how close do you live?
@ Red I used to use them in a previous job working in PVC, these are really sharp, give a nice clean cut and have handy guides on the anvil. Link below to similar on ebay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MULTI-HEAD-PVC-CUTTER-SET-plastic-window-cut-trim-pipe-/361011323585?hash=item540df3a2c1:m:mv7GGdxHREhnFnN-MvtOKRg
@ EDC Thank you sir.

Did a little work today....


First lets talk about magnets a little. We all know they are available in many sizes and shapes. Tey are incredibly useful for offering options on models, and I use them alot during construction to enable a model to be made in sections. One of the problems you get is the polarity of the magnets, so I made a simple little guide...


This means as I work away from the body all my magnets on all my models have the same polarity. Also helps to stick magnets in place easier.
Now I am sticking a bunch of magnets on the roof, these will be to hold some static parts, that under most circumstance would end up snapping off, and also will enable the "arm shoulder" joints to be mounted later, and if I do it right, they should allow some movement of the arms.

Next I will put panels around them to keep them nicely in place and bury them. In this case I did not want them burried fully as I want the surfaces to have a slight gap.

You could fit the panels, or just drill into the plastic, I do many different methods myself, but here I chose to place the magnets, get them stuck down with superglue, and them start to build up a panel effect. One of the things here is drilling the holes. I have for some time used this...

Bought a set of hex drive drills ranging from 1mm to 10mm in 1/2 mm increments, did not cost a lot, also bout the hex drive micro chuck.So can handle drill bits down to 0.3mm. The drill is a screwdriver, and has very low rpm, but high torque and a brilliant battery life. Basically it is small comfortable, and easy to control, highly recommend. This one was about £40
So a few more panels on the roof and ..

And Casey I sware this was done before your comment...

Then there is this unit which will be the KFF...



Well folks, thank you so much for your comments, I cannot tell you how wonderful it was to open my blog just now and see all these wonderful words.

Only had a few hours today, hoping to get a full long day at it tomorrow.

Thoughts as always appreciated, thank you so much for looking.

Zog off!
I do my magneting the Orky Way!
Glue it in backwards, then stab at it until it comes out, and glue it to my finga!

Magnets? Bah! Have a bunch of them. Never used them. I probably should...

A rotary tool like that in which one could chuck a pin vise would be awesome. I can fit my pin vise into my drill chuck, but that is just asking for disaster... I can fit my bits into a collet on an attachment for my dremel, but the RPMs are too high. ( it goes no lower than 5000 rpm) I'm going to take a closer look at those screwdrivers. Hmm.

Nice work on the behemoth, too.

Looks a lot better than the original. Brilliant plasticard work, and I'm going to steal that magnetizing guide

@ Dave, oh yes those were the days...stopped that a while ago, and not looked back. Must be the Bloodaxe in me, conforming some of my methods.

@ Red, Magnets are really useful. Especially like this or for buildings, were you want the thing to stick together but you also want to be able to access the interior. I will always be able to pull this apart to look at the interior. Or you could have a building section removable for access or even to represent damage. Also see below for tool thingy whatsit...

@ CommisarKhaine, thank you sir, and great thats why I am here.

So I was saying about a bit thingy...

Available on the net....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-4-Hex-Shank-0-3-3-6mm-Keyless-Drill-Chuck-Screwdriver-Adapter-2016-HOT-BI156-/162142446272?hash=item25c07162c0

And here is a shot of the anvil of those cutters giving a guide to angles fairly accurate.


Back soon with model update. Please feel free to ask questions.

oooohhh... I need those cutters.

Oh no I've been rumbled! That rustling in the bushes is definitely not me...

Looks really nice, mate, and I always appreciate the tips, tutorials and tools.

these cutters are on my shopping list for years...but somehow i never allowed them myself ... yet....

the detail work is awesome...that moon and the face!!!

but as always...your tutorials and dare i say lifehacks is what truly makes ones day! i only truly ever used magnets...and that went down a wobbly lane...in the end i found my way...but you sow it can be done with brains...instead of frustration...

and yes...screwdrivers are for hobby purposes way better as a drill...i have that bit holder thingy for years and it is a most precious tool!!! i even use it to make wire spin into thick ropes (dunno if that came through the right way^^)

cheers, vik

Have to agree the detailing is top work mate, the moon really is top work really has that classic Ork feel to it ....... classic Ork that's like saying traditional modernism

The door hatch detail is great work nice and aggressive looking can't wait to see it painted.

As for the magnets good idea to work out a system for the polarity, I was following a build on FB and the guy had fixed some of the magnets the wrong way round not a happy chap plus he had sunk them within the model so it was not a simple pop it out and reverse job.

Thank you all.

@ Anpu, yep
@ Casey, Thanks bud.
@ Vik, Thank you, And does make sense, I use it that way too, just put 3 or 4 or more strands of wire in the chuck tighten it up and hold the other end with pliers, 30 seconds later you have a nice twisted wire.
@ LDD, thank you sir. Think twice I always say. And paint is coming,

Been doing a few more details. Want your opinion on the front legs here, wanted to make it more spider like, but not sure...







So as you maybe see, I have added rivets, some cabling few extra panels, and a pair of legs at the front. Next up will be paint.

As a quick note used this little blighter today and thought I would share, I use it all the time to cut styrene tube nice and neat...


Literally a couple pound gives a nice finish to the tubes with no clean up required.

Again thank you all so much for the wonderful comments, thanks for looking.

i got me that tube cutter after dave praised its use...but curiously i had difficulties with mine...somehow the blades wobbled and i often lost the "track" and cutted spirals instead...

and yes, you´ve described it way better than i did^^

and i see the spider...or maybe an ant...with big mandibles...

Nice work on both, building and making my shopping list longer.

Good details, I appreciate the wires/pipes underneath for the leg hydraulics.

When I used magnets on the Helbrute conversion I avoided the polarity issue by only using one magnet per join and a piece of metal in the other half. Was plenty to hold on weapons, but wouldn't do for heavier joins.

Looking good really pulling all together with the finer detailing (rivets of course) I forgot for a miniute it was on legs ha ha after all that.

Good idea with the cabling (wire) adds to the realism and mechanics, loving the two new front leg drills, metal raw plugs by chance.

@Vik it's not you mate mine did the same thing, when I use it the blade wobbles slightly and the cut comes out slightly angled. I bought a slightly more expensive version, it cuts spot on every time.

@Dr H I considered that if a metal strip on one side and magnet on the other would work as well ?

Someone's been lookin' at a lot of admech, Very dunecrawler-esque. The face is really well done and I can't wait to see it painted!

Feels a bit like the Luggage from Terry Pratchett's discworld got looted. ILovely

 lone dirty dog wrote:
...@Dr H I considered that if a metal strip on one side and magnet on the other would work as well ?

It's all a matter of the magnet's strength (and it's size), the weight of the pieces being held (and if they have additional support), and the distance between the pieces across the gap.

For all the weapons I made for the Helbrute, the magnets I used were strong enough if I kept the gap very small.
Best case is the have the magnet contact the metal, obviously. But I wanted a really clean finish to the "stump" and overlaid the metal pieces with the thinnest plasticard I had (0.25mm) so that there was no risk of them being pulled free of the model, any thicker and the magnet wouldn't hold. The magnets were puttied in and sanded over to a flat surface.

I'm really liking your walker build. It's appropriately Orky.

 Dr H wrote:

 lone dirty dog wrote:
...@Dr H I considered that if a metal strip on one side and magnet on the other would work as well ?

It's all a matter of the magnet's strength (and it's size), the weight of the pieces being held (and if they have additional support), and the distance between the pieces across the gap.

For all the weapons I made for the Helbrute, the magnets I used were strong enough if I kept the gap very small.
Best case is the have the magnet contact the metal, obviously. But I wanted a really clean finish to the "stump" and overlaid the metal pieces with the thinnest plasticard I had (0.25mm) so that there was no risk of them being pulled free of the model, any thicker and the magnet wouldn't hold. The magnets were puttied in and sanded over to a flat surface.

That's what my concern was with the metal too magnet set up that it would be a weaker bond, I think personally I would go magnet too magnet just for that extra reassurance but it's an option to consider.

 CommissarKhaine wrote:
Feels a bit like the Luggage from Terry Pratchett's discworld got looted. ILovely

You're right!

Also, if there's anywhere that the Luggage would fit in it's amongst 40k Orks...

 lone dirty dog wrote:
...That's what my concern was with the metal too magnet set up that it would be a weaker bond, I think personally I would go magnet too magnet just for that extra reassurance but it's an option to consider.

It will be weaker than magnet to magnet, but some cases don't require that much hold. You can always try out a piece of metal glued on and if it doesn't hold, pry it off and drill in a magnet.

The main reason I used magnet / metal on the Helbrute was to cut down on the number of magnets used. For two arms I had 10 main weapons. Those were attached using 2 magnets, rather than 12... That's just one model (there were other magnets for minor bits too), multiply that over an army and you have quite a saving in magnets.

That drill chuck, yes, I must get one. I had not idea that such a thing existed. The pipe cutter, these days they come in standardized sizes. I have for for 1/2" and 3/4" copper pipes. Very convenient. For plastics, a razor saw and a mini miter box work well for me. I'm quite used to using a miter box though.

It definitely needs a desert-esque paint scheme. Spider like? Add some chelicera. They might work underneath the gate on front. Also, lenses grouped on the front in a pattern similar to spider eyes.

 Casey's Law wrote:
Oh no I've been rumbled! That rustling in the bushes is definitely not me...

A Spring clean for the May Queen, perchance?

Thank you all, fantastic to see you all here.

Would like to reply to you all but a general Thank you will have to do.

@ Dr. and LDD, yes a strip of metal works well on many joints, and a lot of what I have done on this model you could probably get away without magnets at all. On the Ork jet I used metal strips on the wing mounted bombs. Works well. However any time you need a bit more security Magnet to magnet is best. On a slight not, I have also used ball bearings with magnets and they work really well.

So painting has started. This does not mean it is complete on the modelling side, I am just at a stage I want some paint on it. As I have said many times I am no painter, and much has been stolen from various sources, I am always a mess until I get near the end and tidy everything up.

Ok so a prime of black and white zenithal rattle can primer. Then a complete coat of Fiery Orange then a build up in the centre of all the panel centres.


Then a coat of an ancient yeelow ink wash.#


Then a airbrush to run around the panels etc in purple.


Then a repeat of the white to the centre of the panel


Yellow...


Then I gave it a go over with chainmail on the metallic parts.


Then went over the metallic sections with a blue metallic This paint is an antique,


Then it looks like this...bit crap but hey.

So results as it stands


Then with a black wash over the whole thing.



@ Red I will be bringing it into that ideas, Love the multi eye .

Well more later on. Thats in to trouble.

More painting....

Laid down a titanium and a silver over the metals....


Since then been working on bringing the yellow back up and washing the whole thing smooth.


Yellow is getting there...


And a little OSL for the interior light in the hold...


Thanks for looking comments welcome.

Looking great, don't give yourself such a hard time about painting. If you're not being judged on your technique then the point is to achieve a certain goal. I think your paint jobs are spot on, they bring the miniatures to life, isn't that the aim?

 Red Harvest wrote:

 Casey's Law wrote:
Oh no I've been rumbled! That rustling in the bushes is definitely not me...

A Spring clean for the May Queen, perchance?

Cam's wasn't made of led it just sank like it.

Looking promising! What colour will the skull on the front be?

Thanks guys.

@ Casey, I am happy enough, wish I was a bit better.
@ CK Thank you, and I do not know, trying to think on it at the moment. Suggestions accepted.

Well here is a couple pics of it together, I have been picking down on to the detail stuff. Please remember there are two very big arms to go on this thing yet as well as the other weapon systems, and I would like to add a few more details, as well as a crew.







And some of the detail..



Once I get this up to a point I will have to get the rest of it built and painted before weathering the whole thing.

Thanks for looking and really appreciate the comments guys.

I love it, all those little details, it's got buckets of visual interest. If I had to offer something more constructive than praise then I'd say it's very balanced and symmetrical. So maybe some kind of balcony/weapon platform haphazardly built onto one side would give it a nice asymmetry. I don't know, you probably have plans already.

Edit: I mean from the front and back, there is a nice asymmetry from the side.