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HQ EL MP, Plasma, Shield Gen, HW Multi, HW Blacksun, x2 SD = 140
Crisis x3 MP, Plasma, Multi = 186

HQ EL MP, BC, Shield Gen, HW multi, Stim Inject, HW Blacksun = 108
Crisis x3 MP, Burst Cannon, Multi = 150

Broadside x2 Plasma, Multi, x2 SD, HW Blacksun = 208
Broadside x2 Plasma, Multi, x2 SD, HW Blacksun = 208
IonHead Ion Cannon, burst, DPod, Multi, Blacksun = 135

Pathfinder x6 = 72
Dfish DPod, Flecette = 95
Pathfinder x6 = 72
Dfish, DPod, Flecette = 95

FW x10 = 100
FW x10 = 100
FW x9 = 90
FW x9 = 90

Being different than my normal setups, and an expansion to a higher point level I'm looking for input. Specificly in the shield gens, not used to putting them on the commanders. I know everyone loves the Iriduim armor for the 2+ and that feel no pain is "uselss" against melta, but Keeping my mobility and targeting melta squads carefully is more of a tradeoff that I can deal with. I'm used to running a commander in a stealth squad for the crazy cover saves and extra wounds, so, thoughts on worthwhileness? if thats a word.

Otherwise pretty straight forward

Pathfinders light up units that need to die... Everything shoots at it. Ionhead instead of rail because of the two groups of broadsides can handle heavyarmor, plus the ton of misslepods on the crisis suits for light armor.

Thoughts? Tweaks? I'd like to have more FWs or Team Leads in there for better leadership, but not seeing where to trim points easily.

So, perfect list then? no changes? Experinced Tau players out there give me a heads up on weakness I might want to look out for?

Rawrgyle wrote:
HQ EL MP, Plasma, Shield Gen, HW Multi, HW Blacksun, x2 SD = 140
Crisis x3 MP, Plasma, Multi = 186

HQ EL MP, BC, Shield Gen, HW multi, Stim Inject, HW Blacksun = 108
Crisis x3 MP, Burst Cannon, Multi = 150

Broadside x2 Plasma, Multi, x2 SD, HW Blacksun = 208
Broadside x2 Plasma, Multi, x2 SD, HW Blacksun = 208
IonHead Ion Cannon, burst, DPod, Multi, Blacksun = 135

Pathfinder x6 = 72
Dfish DPod, Flecette = 95
Pathfinder x6 = 72
Dfish, DPod, Flecette = 95

FW x10 = 100
FW x10 = 100
FW x9 = 90
FW x9 = 90
.

Here is an optimized list that you can actually win with once you get rid of all your gimmicks and toys.

HQ
Shas'el (103)
PR, CIB, TA, HWMT, HWBSF

Ethereal (50)

TROOPS
5x units of (9) Firewarriors (450)

ELITES
3x Crisis Suits PR, MP, MT & TLDR w/ BSF = (194)
3x Crisis Suits PR, MP, MT = (186) (HQ Joins Here)

FAST
2x units of (6) Pathfinder = 72
2x Devilfish w/ DP (170)
Pathfinder x6 = 72

HEAVY
2x Units of (2)Broadsides TLPR, MT & TLDR w/ BSF, HWTL, HWDC 1x SD = (396)
1x Railhead Railgun, 2x BC, DP, BSF (160)

1850pts

You now have:
5x Scoring Units > 4x
5x S10 > 4x
5x S10 Targets > 2x
11x S6 AP2 > 8x
Improved LD boardwide

neato, you're right I'm wrong, happy?

paidinfull wrote:

Rawrgyle wrote:
HQ EL MP, Plasma, Shield Gen, HW Multi, HW Blacksun, x2 SD = 140
Crisis x3 MP, Plasma, Multi = 186

HQ EL MP, BC, Shield Gen, HW multi, Stim Inject, HW Blacksun = 108
Crisis x3 MP, Burst Cannon, Multi = 150

Broadside x2 Plasma, Multi, x2 SD, HW Blacksun = 208
Broadside x2 Plasma, Multi, x2 SD, HW Blacksun = 208
IonHead Ion Cannon, burst, DPod, Multi, Blacksun = 135

Pathfinder x6 = 72
Dfish DPod, Flecette = 95
Pathfinder x6 = 72
Dfish, DPod, Flecette = 95

FW x10 = 100
FW x10 = 100
FW x9 = 90
FW x9 = 90
.

Here is an optimized list that you can actually win with once you get rid of all your gimmicks and toys.

HQ
Shas'el (103)
PR, CIB, TA, HWMT, HWBSF

Ethereal (50)

TROOPS
5x units of (9) Firewarriors (450)

ELITES
3x Crisis Suits PR, MP, MT & TLDR w/ BSF = (194)
3x Crisis Suits PR, MP, MT = (186) (HQ Joins Here)

FAST
2x units of (6) Pathfinder = 72
2x Devilfish w/ DP (170)
Pathfinder x6 = 72

HEAVY
2x Units of (2)Broadsides TLPR, MT & TLDR w/ BSF, HWTL, HWDC 1x SD = (396)
1x Railhead Railgun, 2x BC, DP, BSF (160)

1850pts

You now have:
5x Scoring Units > 4x
5x S10 > 4x
5x S10 Targets > 2x
11x S6 AP2 > 8x
Improved LD boardwide

I like it, my question now is what would you add/take away to make this list 1750 or 2000?

 Guilldog wrote:
I like it, my question now is what would you add/take away to make this list 1750 or 2000?

My apologies on the late response.
A couple questions.
Is FW allowed in your meta or at the tournament? If so, 2x tetra are almost an auto-include. I find that it's best to pretty much stay around the 12-14 markerlight count. Enough for a great alpha strike and sustainable through a couple of turns before they're shot to ribbons.

I think the easiest thing to drop to go to 1750 would be a unit of fire warriors, or if you'd prefer, you could drop the unit of Fire Warriors and the Ethereal, but upgrade the Firewarriors to LD8. I'd add a unit of Deathrain @ 2000

With Tau's AA deficiencies you'll want to get some TL weaponry in there.

How can you have competitive Tau with Eldrad?

 FlingitNow wrote:
How can you have competitive Tau with Eldrad?

*Scratches head*
Huh?

 FlingitNow wrote:
How can you have competitive Tau with Eldrad?

Obvious answer is obvious.

Sorry was supposed to say

how can you have competitive tau with out Eldrad