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An Allied unit of EPI + PB's to a CSM army would still arrive by Daemonic Assault.
Daemonic assault says to essentially "break" your army in half
You than roll for it, on a 3+ you get your preferred wave.

If you only have 1 unit, you would still have to roll right?

Correct, with your preferred wave being 1 unit, and the other wave being 0 units. If you rolled a 1 or a 2, you would get your non-preferred wave of 0 units

I don't know about that.

Daemonic Assault says you have to divide your army into two groups.

If you only have 1 unit, then you can't abide by the rule of Daemonic Assault.

1 and 0 does not make two groups.

40k-noob wrote:
I don't know about that.

Daemonic Assault says you have to divide your army into two groups.

If you only have 1 unit, then you can't abide by the rule of Daemonic Assault.

1 and 0 does not make two groups.

Sure they do. A group of 0 and a group of 1.

rigeld2 wrote:

40k-noob wrote:
I don't know about that.

Daemonic Assault says you have to divide your army into two groups.

If you only have 1 unit, then you can't abide by the rule of Daemonic Assault.

1 and 0 does not make two groups.

Sure they do. A group of 0 and a group of 1.

LOL , No they don't.

One is a group of 1 unit and the other simply does not exist.


Hey I don't know what the right answer is here. There is no FAQ on it either.

I am inclined to lean towards if, there is only 1 unit then it should deploy first turn because Daemonic Assault implies that some group of units must deploy first turn.

40k-noob wrote:
LOL , No they don't.

One is a group of 1 unit and the other simply does not exist.

"The first sentence of the third paragraph should be changed to
“At the beginning of your first turn, divide each detachment
chosen from Codex: Chaos Daemons into two groups that must
include, as much as possible, the same number of units.”" C: D FAQ.

Separating into 2 groups of 1 and 0 is as much as possible the same number of units. Demonic Assault also specifies that ICs join units before the calculation is made.

The concept of an empty group being a describable entity is one of the big foundations of modern mathematics. A lot of fancy maths noodling wouldn't work without it.

Indeed. You have 2 sets, one the empty set and one, well, not empty. Perfectly fine.

noodles make the world go round!

I agree entirely that you need a preferred and non-preferred wave, even in the case of a one unit army. I think its pretty similar to the drop pod assault rule when combined with having 1 drop pod. In the case of the pod you have to come in turn 1, and your non-existant 'half of your pods' just never gets factored. In the case of deamonic assault, which calls on the player to make a roll to see whether his preferred wave comes in, you can actually get the non-existant wave as an option, provided you roll a 1 or a 2.

I could definately see the dark gods screwing with the commander.

"Sir, are we going to be reciving daemon support for this battle?"

"Of course we are. Nurgle promised."

Nurgle is watching through his plague pot/view screen going "Not"