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To all Tau players, from a Tyranid player, I'm so sorry. Assuming the rumor is true that is. Thoughts?
http://natfka.blogspot.jp/2012/10/release-schedule-rumors-news-sometimes.html

Hmm wonder if Tau will go from bad to worse due to that...

He also did Guard, which is similar in a lot of ways to Tau and dominated 5th Ed play for quite a while.

Jefffar wrote:
He also did Guard, which is similar in a lot of ways to Tau and dominated 5th Ed play for quite a while.

Speaking as a Guard player though, the codex has really crappy internal balance. For every veteran squad, we have penal legion. For every Manticore, we've got the eradicator.

Some units are just way too good for their points (vendetta) while others are laughably overpriced (Ogryn, pretty much any special character)

Just because our codex is seen as competitive doesn't mean people should want him writing the Tau one.

What other codices did he write? The fact that he also wrote IG makes me wonder how he could have possibly priced stuff in the Tyranid codex the way he did without pre-meditated malice.

I haven't read the IG codex fluff but is it as bad as the Tyranid stuff? I wouldn't wish Cruddace on any army going by the codex I read.

IG and Nidz considered, it could go either way if correct

Jefffar wrote:
He also did Guard, which is similar in a lot of ways to Tau and dominated 5th Ed play for quite a while.

And 6th... damn cheap Flyers

I think that Tau can't get worse than they are already.
But they are not weak now at all with allies, this one guy at 40k tournament win with his Eldar allies quite easy.

This is his army and how he played:



I should mentioned that Fire Warriors with Eldrad beat Bloodthrster in close combat.
Everyone else he just shoot down from his cover - even Tyranids. ( it was funny seeing how Chaos Daemons spawned right in front of Tau defense only to disappear next moment ).

. . . So he sat in a corner and rolled dice . . . sounds exciting. Just because you can win with a codex doesn't make it a good one.

 60mm wrote:
. . . So he sat in a corner and rolled dice . . . sounds exciting. Just because you can win with a codex doesn't make it a good one.

Agreed, as proven you can win with any codex. Still some are good and others bad

 60mm wrote:
What other codices did he write? The fact that he also wrote IG makes me wonder how he could have possibly priced stuff in the Tyranid codex the way he did without pre-meditated malice.

I haven't read the IG codex fluff but is it as bad as the Tyranid stuff? I wouldn't wish Cruddace on any army going by the codex I read.

Nothing new or worth writing home about. There are some ridiculous events in there, like one where a DKoK regiment shelled a city for 6 years, 4 years of which were after the last signs of life had disappeared.

But he win against everyone on that tournament - even Necrons.
This just proves that Tau are not that weak in 6'th edition. Main advantage was Eldrad who gave rerolls for every miss to his FW's and 88's ( he can because they are battle brothers ), that put a lot of things down.
He only lost against a guy who used artillery

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
But he win against everyone on that tournament - even Necrons.
This just proves that Tau are not that weak in 6'th edition. Main advantage was Eldrad who gave rerolls for every miss to his FW's and 88's ( he can because they are battle brothers ), that put a lot of things down.
He only lost against a guy who used artillery

No, that shows that one specific build, that required allies as a significant part of his list, is strong.

That's like saying IG are awesome at assault because we can take space wolf allies.

The tau codex as a whole is a weaker codex, but mainly because it's 2 editions out of date, and half their rules either no longer exist, or don't do what they used to (fleet for examplE)

They need an update badly, at the very least so that people can take more than 1 specific build without failing horribly. The question is if Cruddance will make the codex fairly balanced internally (there's no autotakes and no horrible ones) and balanced externally (not curbstomping every codex out there and not getting stomped by every codex either.)

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
But he win against everyone on that tournament - even Necrons.
This just proves that Tau are not that weak in 6'th edition. Main advantage was Eldrad who gave rerolls for every miss to his FW's and 88's ( he can because they are battle brothers ), that put a lot of things down.
He only lost against a guy who used artillery

I suppose you mean Prescience, from the divination BRB Psy powers. Tau are that weak in 6th, they do pull out wins but so do other codexes that are bad. Just less common than the top tier codexes.

It's a codex two edition out of date. Most of the FAQ is just telling you stuff is no longer available, or that it dose nothing. What's the worst that could happen?

nomotog wrote:
It's a codex two edition out of date. Most of the FAQ is just telling you stuff is no longer available, or that it dose nothing. What's the worst that could happen?

Imagine Nids without MC's, 6 wounds, and T6, and no Psy powers.

The future of Tau

i know their codex is old 2 editions but this tournament proves that Tau still can won it if the guy commanding them plays smart. After two editions Tau really deserve an upgrade and I hope it will be a decent one.

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

nomotog wrote:
It's a codex two edition out of date. Most of the FAQ is just telling you stuff is no longer available, or that it dose nothing. What's the worst that could happen?

Imagine Nids without MC's, 6 wounds, and T6, and no Psy powers.

The future of Tau

And what is that in tau terms?

nomotog wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

nomotog wrote:
It's a codex two edition out of date. Most of the FAQ is just telling you stuff is no longer available, or that it dose nothing. What's the worst that could happen?

Imagine Nids without MC's, 6 wounds, and T6, and no Psy powers.

The future of Tau

And what is that in tau terms?

Replace the Tau firewarrior plasma rifle with "lasguns"

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

nomotog wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

nomotog wrote:
It's a codex two edition out of date. Most of the FAQ is just telling you stuff is no longer available, or that it dose nothing. What's the worst that could happen?

Imagine Nids without MC's, 6 wounds, and T6, and no Psy powers.

The future of Tau

And what is that in tau terms?

Replace the Tau firewarrior plasma rifle with "lasguns"

NOOOO!.. Wait, don't lasguns have more range then the pulse rifle? That wouldn't be too bad. Not all that fun, but not too bad.

nomotog wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

nomotog wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

nomotog wrote:
It's a codex two edition out of date. Most of the FAQ is just telling you stuff is no longer available, or that it dose nothing. What's the worst that could happen?

Imagine Nids without MC's, 6 wounds, and T6, and no Psy powers.

The future of Tau

And what is that in tau terms?

Replace the Tau firewarrior plasma rifle with "lasguns"

NOOOO!.. Wait, don't lasguns have more range then the pulse rifle? That wouldn't be too bad. Not all that fun, but not too bad.

Lasgun Str3 ap- 24" rapid fire from memory.
Flashlights for a reason

Cruddace also wrote the Sisters of Battle WD codex, which wasn't exactly a graceful addition...

Oh that would be bad. (I was thinking they got bumped to 42" range.)

 Luke_Prowler wrote:
Cruddace also wrote the Sisters of Battle WD codex, which wasn't exactly a graceful addition...

Sisters was before or after the Nids codex?

nomotog wrote:
Oh that would be bad. (I was thinking they got bumped to 42" range.)

My god I wish.

There's a reason IG brings liek a 160 lasguns to a fight.

We have like a 1/18 chance to kill a regular tactical marine per shot

Yeah, even if cruddace writes it like gaurd rather than nids, it'll still be bad. A handful of golden units sitting on a pile of gak isn't a good codex.

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

 Luke_Prowler wrote:
Cruddace also wrote the Sisters of Battle WD codex, which wasn't exactly a graceful addition...

Sisters was before or after the Nids codex?

The Sister's white dwarf update came out a year after 5th edition Nids

Man, I thought that people hated Ward.

 Luke_Prowler wrote:
Cruddace also wrote the Sisters of Battle WD codex, which wasn't exactly a graceful addition...

So did Ward.

The problem is both Cruddace and Ward (even moreso Ward) intentionally underpower armies that they don't like and they buff the ones they do.

Ex: Cruddace liked Guard, so Guard are good. Didn't like Tyranids, so Tyranids are pretty bad.
Ex2: Ward really liked Daemons and Grey Knights, so they were both game-breakingly good. He thought O&G were silly, and as a result they were incredibly terrible.

 Luke_Prowler wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

 Luke_Prowler wrote:
Cruddace also wrote the Sisters of Battle WD codex, which wasn't exactly a graceful addition...

Sisters was before or after the Nids codex?

The Sister's white dwarf update came out a year after 5th edition Nids

So there's a trend.

he's getting worse >.<

I actually rate them in order of publication, from 1,2,3.

Can he continue his downward spiral?