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You know what's fun? Select your country to Australia and look at the prices of this Hobbit stuff. 4 small Finecast miniatures are now $125. The bundle is $1,245.

Now I actually have the new WD in front of me and can have a good look at the pics, I have mixed feelings:
- new-style goblins - no surprise really at the changed appearance, I'm sure they match those in the film, and a different look is desirable to everyone _except_ those gamers hoping to reuse their old LotR goblins
- sculpting really is hit and miss - some are excellent, some look clumsily done, and some both at once, e.g. the goblin king looks like someone was doing a great job then ran out of time. A few people seem misled by the wrist lines on the trolls - that's just the physical join where you can swap the hand.
- I finally worked out why the goblin town terrain is ladders and walkways (instead of a more traditional town which I'd foolishly expected) - their 'town' fills some sort of huge cave, which makes perfect sense, except -
- it's just a totally generic sprue of ladders and walkways, and not even slightly worth the ludicrously high price. I'm expecting most keen Hobbit modellers will soon work out how to easily make their own ladders and walkways for around a twentieth of the price.
- and as plenty of others have said, all the prices are eye-wateringly expensive - even the intro box, normally relatively good value for GW, is way overpriced. I doubt I'll be buying anything at all.

The three trolls are $140 AUD. The council is $125, The goblin town is $95...

For me this has gone beyond the point where I wouldn't purchase it for even HALF the asking price on those kits. A third, maybe.
One could build that entire goblin town set 10 times over by spending $10 on some balsa wood. The 'escape frrom golbin town' set looks ok, but nothing I'm jumping up to buy.
I can't imagine anyone seriously looking at those trolls and thinking they are good value for money. At these prices, I think GW is going to be looking at a 'Hobbit Black Hole' as opposed to a 'LOTR bubble'....

I can almost buy a MANTA for the cost of the 'complete Hobbit bundle'. That is.... yeah.

Screw your cynicism, I'm definitely buying the escape from goblin town set! It's awesome!

Trasvi wrote:
The goblin town is $95...

I hadn't seen that. GW terrain boxes are usually around the AUD$50 mark.

But $95? For that???

Clang wrote: - new-style goblins - no surprise really at the changed appearance, I'm sure they match those in the film, and a different look is desirable to everyone _except_ those gamers hoping to reuse their old LotR goblins

My biggest gripe, prices aside, with the entire release. Those gobbos look less like the illustrations from the Tolkien Bestiary I used to know and love and more like uninspired, CGI-friendly gak.

Wow, those prices are laughable even by GW standards. I really though that GW had gotten the LOTR price gouging out their system last year when they halved the amount of models in each box but kept the prices exactly the same. I guess i misjudged the company yet again...

Despite having no interest in LOTR, i might trying purchasing some of those Goblin warriors and Orc hunters off Ebay in a few months. With a little converting they would make some great Post-Apoc mutants.

As an avid LOTR'er I was well up for some Hobbit shananigans, then I noticed the prices they have up there on the GW site.Thats it go to hell GW. Its just no..... thats wrong sod em thats me done. Been playing there games for 21 years, and thats the straw................no more for me. I realy want to buy all that lovely stuff, but its just silly money. Its like they just make up the numbers

I just purchased the samurai battles box the other day for £55, its cramed with a kings ransome in plastic blokes, cardboard scenery and a huge amount of other gubbinz. All from some tiny obscure Russian company, but the biggest richest wargame company in the world needs to charge this!

I didn't think the goblins alone were too bad. But that game box set, limited as it may be, is about £20 over the odds.

3 Trolls for £50.

Madness. The sculpts look really bad in the official pics, too.

Oh, and as always, for those of you swearing off GW, give Mantic a look. I know they don't have everything perfect, but the prices are great and they're a nice company that treats its customers well.

Plus, they'll be releasing their trolls very soon which will cost less than a quarter of what the GW ones do, so you can still play the hobbit game if you want, there's loads of nice minis out there, no need to use the official GW-sanctioned models if you consider them overpriced.

I mean, yeah, you won't be able to go to GW run "The Hobbit" tournaments but other than that, you're good to go.

If it's awesome goblins you want, otherworld and four-a miniatures make some really, really cool sculpts that look much closer to the original old-style Tolkein designs than these movie-inspired "rage zombies" from GW do... or just use that bucket of lotr goblins you have lying around (possibly already painted), the world won't end if you use them instead, and the sculpts for them look so much better.

Can't help with the £50 rulebook though, that's a cost you'll just have to swallow if you want to play.

 scarletsquig wrote:
3 Trolls for £50.

Given that the equivalents are at least £18.50 each, that makes sense. As for whether they're worth it, well, that's down to yourself.

Wow, you're right.

£18.50 per Troll does in fact mean that £50 for 3 represents a bargain discount price by GW standards since you save £5.50 compared to buying 3 trolls separately.

The White council of 4 miniatures for £45 is also technically speaking a bulk-discount saving as finecast characters normally cost £12 each. So you're saving £3 there.

Handing over £45 for a single blister of 4 extremely small 25mm miniatures, though... I don't know how anyone could bear to do that using cash from their wallet, short of having a £40k/year salary.

 Hercule Pyro wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:
3 Trolls for £50.

Given that the equivalents are at least £18.50 each, that makes sense. As for whether they're worth it, well, that's down to yourself.

Well, you can take the Trolls as Spawns in a CSM army. But then you get 4 (overpriced) Spawns (66 Euro) for 3 Trolls (65 Euro). Head scratching.

If I worked for gw I would have to apologize to anyone paying that kind of money.
The hobbit making forge world look like the pound shop.

I feel sorry for parents of young Hobbit-fans.

Edit: And about that Goblin Town... It looks like something some wargame-blogger would build from cereal boxes.

At these prices I expect sales to mirror the sales performance of Dreadfleet.
I can afford it but I would feel like a fool to pay that much. White Council, $75, for 4 figures? Bah.

Another thing I noticed is they dont include all of the dwarves in the boxed set. WTF is up with that?

 scarletsquig wrote:
I mean, yeah, you won't be able to go to GW run "The Hobbit" tournaments ...

And let's be honest - who's going to one of those?

I'm out.

I like goblin town but for that price I'd expect 2-3 times as much content per box.

Now for what I want, I can deal with the prices, cos I want the orcs and their closest to the prices I had before for LOTR.

Goblin town however...............HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! £35! Not in a million years and on top of that it looks fething gak!

Also won't buy the rule book if the rules have changed too much, just carry on using LOTR rules, and then I have to con myself to spend £50 on it

I've pre-ordered it. I don't think that £75 is a lot of money especially for something that will give me, my friends and my family hours of pleasure.

Funnily I was chatting to my sister this morning, and her son has just started to read The Hobbit. He is obsessed with lego and she was saying that the similarly sized star wars lego is much cheaper than the LotR or Hobbit lego.

 snurl wrote:
Another thing I noticed is they dont include all of the dwarves in the boxed set. WTF is up with that?

I don't understand: Are the 13 dwarfs of the movie not enough??

Hopefully GW is just trying to get easy cash from diehard LOTR fans. If not, well - hello Infinity

I was looking forward to getting some new Wargs to add to the other ones but these look totally different :( sorry GW, another lost sale...

Mick

The price for the goblin town terrain set...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHA!

Buy some cheap balsa wood and colors for what? 15-20$?

Take the finger, GW. Take it. Yes, here. Take it.

£45 for the white council? That's just barmy, they are simple, probably single piece, 28mm castings.

When they first released a galadriel she came with her mate and a bowl for £10-12. In fact, most single character figures were about £5-6, and boxes were much better. Your average LotR box set was £20-25 and contained 6-9 figures, the fellowship, attack on weather top, helms deep, etc.

Now it's four figures for £45??? And people wonder why there's a market for GW recasts.

For €79 like the other starter sets I may have broken my embargo on buying GW products for the Escape from Goblin Town set but for €100 they can forget it

Mantic quality at three times the price. This another step back in quality and value for money from GW. I was genuinely shocked that the goblin town scenery set was £35. The cities of death individual building boxes are a good comparison, the COD boxes containing 3 sprues as opposed to 2 in goblin town and as a visual guesstimate makes me pretty certain there is a greater weight of plastic in the COD boxes, the COD boxes cost £20 not £35.

All hail the great hobbit tax.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
... the COD boxes containing 3 spruces ...

There are no trees in the CoD scenery sets. The word you're looking for is 'sprues'

 insaniak wrote:

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
... the COD boxes containing 3 spruces ...

There are no trees in the CoD scenery sets. The word you're looking for is 'sprues'

Damn autocorrect! Though I did think Moderators would be above trolling ;-)

Maybe the buildings are getting another price increase and will be brought in line with "goblin town" next year. Looks like the 40k/WHF rulebooks might be going up to $85, too.