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Kroothawk wrote: The fellowship sells for about 2/3 of the Moria starter box, which is a bit daring.
As soon as I saw Mines of Moria disappear, I grabbed fellowship sprue off ebay. I got it for $18 shipped.
I think there are certain things that GW knows it will only sell as impulse purchases or to FLGSs that are stocking up. I call it the "Eldrad Rule."
GW has been making the same model of Eldrad for two decades. Anybody that buys used GW stuff regulalry, even if not specifically eldar, is going to end up with an Eldrad. Every store has a bunch in stock, and how many of that model does anybody even need?
At first glance, GW pricing the current Finecast Eldard at $20.75 seems hilariously optimistic, but I think they know they could price him at $8 and barely sell any. Demand might be low, but it is quite inelastic. At this point, if you want a new Eldrad, you really want him. So, for stuff like that, set the price high. It's gravy anyway.
So they are not too far off the inflation index. And I suspect if you looked at bread prices you would find you are paying more today than you did 10 years ago...
Used your index. When I first starting playing and playing LoTR in 2004/2005...Minus Trith Knights were $20 a box. They are $30 now. Your index says they should be $25.
Urak Hai were $20 a box (for 20 models). They are now $49.5 (currently sold in boxes of 10 at $24.75).
Urak crossbowmen (metal) were $9 for 3. Now they are $26.50 for 4 (the scupts are same but since they are Finecast now, somehow their value has increased two-fold).
Surprisingly, I remember paying $20 fro a Urak battering ram. Now it's $22.50.
I always wanted an Uruk army. Unfortunately just before I started off a collection of them, the troop boxes were halved in models which lead to the prices being doubled, and finecast was introduced to the world...
Needless to say I gave up on that idea pretty fast.
Commander Cain wrote: I always wanted an Uruk army. Unfortunately just before I started off a collection of them, the troop boxes were halved in models which lead to the prices being doubled, and finecast was introduced to the world...
Needless to say I gave up on that idea pretty fast.
You can still do pretty well getting plastic uruks cheap(ish) on Ebay, though admittedly sufficent crossbowmen will be harder to aquire. I'm planning to attempt some conversions using crossbows from my Perry mercenaries box and men with broken pikes.
Inflation is a bad measuring stick for consumers. Why not look at purchasing power parity on a scale of average (or even better, median) per-capita income? You'd see that in some cases, people are making less than 10 years before, especially once inflation & prices are normalized into the equation. I seriously find it tiresome to read through all these ignorant posts about pricing, anyways. You're still buying the "ludicrously-priced" miniatures.
Vote with your wallets and write your angry letters to GW, not to dakka. Even if it just gets trashed immediately and disregarded, if the same vocal group all sends emails, maybe they'll read one of them.
I, for one, am simply disappointed in the creative direction the Hobbit is going, and won't be showing my support for the entire franchise, including GW's share. My old LotR figures will be sitting lonely in the corner still collecting dust.
uberjoras wrote: I, for one, am simply disappointed in the creative direction the Hobbit is going, and won't be showing my support for the entire franchise, including GW's share. My old LotR figures will be sitting lonely in the corner still collecting dust.
??? What creative direction? GW dont get a creative input in style or anything. They write the rules and that's it. They may sculpt and cast the models but all of that is approved by the film company with very little room for creativity. I really dont understand people who think that GW does anything other than make nice models.
uberjoras wrote: I, for one, am simply disappointed in the creative direction the Hobbit is going...
??? What creative direction? GW dont get a creative input in style or anything.
He didn't say they did. Even if it's not GW's fault, the final product is still something Uberjoras doesn't want to buy.
Thank you. All the moaning about ugly models are right, but I never blamed GW- they did a fine job of translating ugly creatures. I just don't view trolls or goblins as remotely near what the Hobbit is depicting them.
Polonius wrote: Anybody that buys used GW stuff regulalry, even if not specifically eldar, is going to end up with an Eldrad.
Not always true. I got an Eldar army (3-4k worth of stuff) from a friend for free, and I didn't get an Eldrad. I got a Bonesinger, for crying out loud, but no Eldrad. So it can happen!
My point is that two products which are (a) relatively similar from (b) two different companies released at (c) the same time for the Christmas 2012 market have vastly different prices (though the other way around).
Don't see how my comparison is inferior to yours.
Not inferior, no. Irrelevant, yes. Because that's not what we're talking about. It's entirely off-tangent. It's like we're comparing rarities of certain cards in M:tG and you point out that there are rare cards in Yu-Gi-Oh. Who cares about Yu-Gi-Oh, that's not what we're discussing.
Commander Cain wrote: I always wanted an Uruk army. Unfortunately just before I started off a collection of them, the troop boxes were halved in models which lead to the prices being doubled, and finecast was introduced to the world...
Needless to say I gave up on that idea pretty fast.
Exact same thing happened to me. Shame their loss.
Rainbow Dash wrote: I just get my lotr second hand, it doesn't go for much and isn't hugely popular
That's what I did over the summer, though certain metal models that weren't in production for very long can go for a pretty penny. (Minas Tirith Gandalf on Shadowfax for example)
Sorry if it has already been noted (may have missed amongst all the news about prices and aesthetics), but looks like new FAQs are up for The Hobbit and LotR books
"What holds the Empire together, lad, is that our mutual dislike of each other is less than our dislike of everyone else."
- A Priest of Sigmar
heartserenade wrote: The only 100% miniature in the Fellowship plastics is Gandalf. The hobbits and Gimli is okay-ish, Legolas, Boromir and Aragorn look downright weird.
On the other hand, I can buy the Finecast ones. I wish they're in metal.
Ebay, you can get loads of them on ebay. Yes you may need to strip them but its easy to do
Polonius wrote: Anybody that buys used GW stuff regulalry, even if not specifically eldar, is going to end up with an Eldrad.
Not always true. I got an Eldar army (3-4k worth of stuff) from a friend for free, and I didn't get an Eldrad. I got a Bonesinger, for crying out loud, but no Eldrad. So it can happen!
I got 4,000pts of 3rd edition Dark Eldar free from a friend of my buddy who was getting out of the hobby....and even than I got a friggin' Eldrad!
"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
Polonius wrote: Anybody that buys used GW stuff regulalry, even if not specifically eldar, is going to end up with an Eldrad.
Not always true. I got an Eldar army (3-4k worth of stuff) from a friend for free, and I didn't get an Eldrad. I got a Bonesinger, for crying out loud, but no Eldrad. So it can happen!
Have seen the movie now. Really nice, same quality as the LOTR movies IMHO.
Now I wonder why one of the main Ork characters doesn't get a model in first or second wave, but others that are at best seen a few blinks and not even called by name in the movie get extra models in first and second wave.
Spoiler:
I am mainly talking about Azog. No model in sight. Is he even mentioned in the rulebook? Or Thorin's farther and Grandfather?
Yep, he's mentioned in the book! Along with Thorin's forbears. I need to go double check where tho...
Spoiler:
I think Thorin's father faced him? My theory is they're combining that character with one Thorin faces in the final battle, thus his still being alive.
I just got back from it, and loved it!! Avatars of War dwarfs can't come soon enough
Not sure why GW chose to paint these gobbos so pink- they're more subdued colors in the movie.
And Radagast was just awesome sauce . So little said is said about him in the book, so they could do anything, and they nailed him!
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Okay, he was described as a lost case in the book LOTR, but portraying him in the movie as a mushroom and tobacco junkie was a bit hard And is that bird droppings in his hair? I think it is!
Anyway, the rabbit chariot had style
I'm amazed that I agree with Kroot on something...
Things i totally would have bought from the Hobbit game that aren't being made: - The Pale Orc - Wood Elf King on Elk - The Fellowship of the Key (Outside of the starter set) - Radagast on Bunny Sled - 'Mail Goblin'
Also would totally get Bilbo's Trolls if the models weren't so ugly.
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Kanluwen wrote: How do we know these things aren't being made?
They aren't in the information that GW has graced us with, and the rulebook hasn't been leaked yet, thus they aren't being made. This can of course change, but who knows when?
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