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heartserenade wrote: Did you just miss the part where I said that they're selling it for $29.75 [NOW (as in today, at present, in this very moment)?
Obviously I did. Go ahead and bold italicize and underline all your posts from now on. It may help.
Of course now the argument turns to old figures where the sculpting and tooling were bought at 2001 prices ARE going to sell at a different price than figures where the company paid for the sculpting and tooling at today's prices... Go look at a car lot. Check the price between a 2011 model they may have on the lot and a new 2013 they just got in...
Sorry, GW is NOT the only company or even the worst company when it comes to this stuff. And no one puts a gun to your head and forces you to buy any of it.
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heartserenade wrote: Just compare the Ruins of Minas Tirith and the Goblin Town terrain set.
Just compare the Goblin Town Terrain set with DZC Terrain sets.
Just compare the DZC Terrain sets with Pegasus Hobby Terrain sets, or bananas for that matter. I don't get what you're saying here. My point is that two products which are relatively similar from the same company have vastly different prices.
CptJake wrote:Of course now the argument turns to old figures where the sculpting and tooling were bought at 2001 prices ARE going to sell at a different price than figures where the company paid for the sculpting and tooling at today's prices... Go look at a car lot. Check the price between a 2011 model they may have on the lot and a new 2013 they just got in...
Funny how that "inflated pricing of sculpting and tooling at today's prices" didn't apply to the recent GK Terminators vs. the old sculpts of the SM Terminators (both at $50).
UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote: But the knights have all gone up in price over time. This is just gouging for the sake of gouging. I don't expect a thick sliced loaf of white bread I bought 10 years ago to cost a third more than a medium sliced white loaf from the same company today.
That would be a better way to look at it. And I suspect if you looked at bread prices you would find you are paying more today than you did 10 years ago...
When the riders of rohan where originally released they where £12 for 6. The current price includes the year on year increases. Therefore the current price is indeed the correct one to compare to an it is a price gouge. If your going to try and be clever by editing quotes try and make sure your correct first. I'll give you a hint, your not ;-)
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heartserenade wrote: Just compare the DZC Terrain sets with Pegasus Hobby Terrain sets, or bananas for that matter. I don't get what you're saying here. My point is that two products which are relatively similar from the same company have vastly different prices.
Pay him no heed. It's just Zwie's little straw filled red herring. He's found a company selling expensive 10mm terrain and he thinks it 'proves' something. We're not completely sure what it proves exactly, but it's easier to simply nod, smile and avoid eye contact until he goes away.
Just compare the DZC Terrain sets with Pegasus Hobby Terrain sets, or bananas for that matter. I don't get what you're saying here. My point is that two products which are relatively similar from the same company have vastly different prices.
No. Your point is that two products which are (a) relatively similar from (b) the same company released at (c) vastly different times (one new, one ancient back-log) have vastly different prices.
My point is that two products which are (a) relatively similar from (b) two different companies released at (c) the same time for the Christmas 2012 market have vastly different prices (though the other way around).
Don't see how my comparison is inferior to yours.
Infact, I would argue mine is the better comparison, similar to how you would compare.. say.. the DvD prices of two similar movies from two studios released at roughly the same time, but likely wont compare the DvD prices from two movies from the same studio, but releases years apart (one just new for the Christmas-hype, one in the bargain-bin for months).
The comparison of two products from the same company is what must always be flawed. At the worst, the same company might be selling some at a loss (clear stocks, drive other products) and others at a profit.
A credible comparison should never be between products from the same company, because the are not competing with one another. If one would (unintentionally) cannibalize the sale of the other, they'd change it. The only comparison that matters are the products that compete with one another.
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heartserenade wrote: Just compare the DZC Terrain sets with Pegasus Hobby Terrain sets, or bananas for that matter. I don't get what you're saying here. My point is that two products which are relatively similar from the same company have vastly different prices.
Pay him no heed. It's just Zwie's little straw filled red herring. He's found a company selling expensive 10mm terrain and he thinks it 'proves' something. We're not completely sure what it proves exactly, but it's easier to simply nod, smile and avoid eye contact until he goes away.
Which is why this discussion is always pointless. There can never be any resolution or common ground, you're all just going to snipe each other until your arms fall off.
Kanluwen wrote: eBay's prices are not indicative of "real" prices.
While this is true, as there are schills who jack up prices, e-bay's prices reflect supply and demand much more than GWs do. There must be tons of plastic copies of the fellowship floating around, as they were included in the most recent lotr starter set. Given such a huge supply, the price should not be too high. I can't imagine paying more than 20 bucks for such a set. 10 including shipping sounds reasonable.
heartserenade wrote: Just compare the DZC Terrain sets with Pegasus Hobby Terrain sets, or bananas for that matter. I don't get what you're saying here. My point is that two products which are relatively similar from the same company have vastly different prices.
Pay him no heed. It's just Zwie's little straw filled red herring. He's found a company selling expensive 10mm terrain and he thinks it 'proves' something. We're not completely sure what it proves exactly, but it's easier to simply nod, smile and avoid eye contact until he goes away.
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Current Riders of Rohan - 6 per box for AUD$43
So I guess these new Elf Riders will be 6 per box for AUD$60, yes? EDIT: Scratch that, the Hunter Orcs on Wargs are already AUD$70. Jesus...
You mean, GW prices in Australia are high?
Never heard of that. Good to let us know ... in every thread on every day since 2 years
Although I do get bored of hearing that too, this time he had a valid point
Knights of Minas tirith: £18
Riders of Rohan: £18
Haradrim Raiders: £18
Easterling Kataphrakts: £22.50
Gladhirim Knights: £22.50
Hunter Orcs on fell wargs: £25
Rivendell Knights, most likely £25
It was a valid point when GW’s new pricing levels for Hobbit miniatures were made public two weeks ago. At this point, it’s just the same spam we’ve been hearing from the same people for the past 2+ years.
If anyone is willing to spend £30 on "13 components and a ring priority marker", whatever that may be, good luck to GW. I particularly like the fine elven art of aiming an arrow without looking - this takes some skill.
I have just flicked to the back of the March 2004 WD and the metal fellowship was £25 then. Both the figures I have quoted are sterling. I don't expect GW not to raise prices with inflation, but the metal figures were more finely detailed.
It will be interesting to see if it backfires. I was much more tempted by the LOTR releases, since they were actually a pretty great deal by GW standards. These are worse than their usual deals, so likely will only snag those who don't know better, imo, or will buy any Hobbit-related item no matter the cost.
I can sense another huge backfire I think. Those that play LotR know that they are being ripped off and new players will probably just choose something else over those models.
It's a shame really, some of the upcoming models look great. I have a fledgling elf force and could do with some cavalry for them but at that price, no chance!
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