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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/16 00:03:39
Subject: 2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Shade of Despair and Torment
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I bought the book that has the info, but it is still in transit via the usps....
Anyway this is whst I planned to purchase...
6 CHAOS DWARF BULLS
3 CHAOS DWARF DAEMONSMITHS
1 DRAZHOATH THE ASHEN on his flying bull
CHAOS DWARF INFERNAL COMMAND (4 of these = 12 models)
20 CHAOS DWARF INFERNAL GUARD WITH FIREGLAIVES (2 groups of 10 with command = 13)
40 chaos dwarf infernal guard (2 groups of 20 with command = 23)
1 CHAOS DWARF MAGMA CANNON
1 CHAOS DWARF IRON DAEMON
1 CHAOS DWARF skullcracker
3 K'DAAI FIREBORN
Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/17 19:56:38
Subject: 2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Hard-Wired Sentinel Pilot
Nr London
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Hi, when you get the book you will realise how expensive a chaos dwarf army can be. What you have listed comes to around 2940 points and this is with not a single upgrade or magic item!
K'daai are excellent against T3 troops but you need 6 not 3 due to the burning bright rule.
The skullcracker is an expensive gamble, if you get charged by something with thunderstomp (any big monster) you will onlh have the 3 crews attacks. If you do get a charge in then its amazing.
Use 1 of the daemonsmiths as a castellan, the stubborn rule will make a unit of IG.
Take one unit of 30 IG not 2 of 20.
To save points 3 bullcentaurs will be enough for flank charges.
I would also drop Drazhoarh and use one a daemonsmith as a prophet on foot in a unit of 20 IG with fire glaves.
.........these ideas will save you about £150 (you will not need 4 command groups as well).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/17 20:29:15
Subject: 2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Youre going to want to convert yourself a K'daii Destroyer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/17 20:32:25
Subject: Re:2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Terrifying Doombull
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You do realize just how insanely expesive CD are to collect? I have a army at 2800 points and I still have yet to fill it completly with all FW models.
But your army needs improvement
You do not need Drazohoath, he is too costly and a regular lvl 4 will do the trick anyhow. Secondly flying mounts are not worth it. Secondly I have after much trial and error come to the conlusion that Infernal Glavies are good, but sword & board works much better unless you really want some shooting in your army done by rank & file.
Its also better imo to field three magma cannons instead of one of each warmachine, and a K`daai destroyer will guaranted get you your points back unlike fireborn who are not worth it at all. And dropp two Sorcerers for two Castelans, one of witch you make a BSB
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/17 20:33:08
Subject: 2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Hard-Wired Sentinel Pilot
Nr London
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There was a work in progress Forgeworld destroyer at a recent Gamesday. You can find a picture through Google images.
I would take a destroyer over the Skullcrusher every day and they are similar point costs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/17 20:58:05
Subject: 2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Shade of Despair and Torment
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Yikes! Got my book and realized, like the posts above that' d be 3k!
Tweeked it... $725 usd gets me a 2500
1 CHAOS DWARF DAEMONSMITHS
1 DRAZHOATH THE ASHENA
4 CHAOS DWARF INFERNAL COMMAND
2 CHAOS DWARF INFERNAL GUARD WITH FIREGLAIVES
3 DWARF INFERNAL GUARD
1 CHAOS DWARF MAGMA CANNON
1 CHAOS DWARF SKULLCRACKER
1 CHAOS DWARF DEATH SHRIEKER ROCKET
69 models (not counting crews)
Thoughts on this being a good army?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/17 21:04:48
Subject: 2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Terrifying Doombull
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What is the point of asking for advice when you dont seem intrested in taking it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/17 21:49:31
Subject: 2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Trondheim wrote:What is the point of asking for advice when you dont seem intrested in taking it?
When you're just posting to let others know you're blowing $725 on a bunch of Chaos Dwarfs I suppose.
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/17 21:54:14
Subject: 2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Terrifying Doombull
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Eldarain wrote: Trondheim wrote:What is the point of asking for advice when you dont seem intrested in taking it?
When you're just posting to let others know you're blowing $725 on a bunch of Chaos Dwarfs I supppose.
 Fair point I think. Oh how these kinda posts sometimes gets the better of me. I need to invest in some anti troll vacsine I suppose
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 01:28:35
Subject: 2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Denilsta wrote:I would take a destroyer over the Skullcrusher every day and they are similar point costs
This.
CD have great war machines, decent magic, average infantry, a great monster.
2 Magma cannons are better. Skullcracker or Iron Daemon is fine, it's basically a Hellblaster with +1 Str, D3 wounds, less range, and 1 less artillery die, but it's also sitting on a fast T7 W7 thunderstomping train. I don't think deathshrieker rockets are very good, you can use it for a cannon, but it will likely scatter off your target and the incend rounds are only Str 3. A dreadquake mortar is a stonethrower with +2 Str and you can add +3 wounds to with another Ogre and it has a 6' (no kidding) tabletop range. All war machines can be hellbound and give +1T and +1W making them all at least 8T and 4W and have magic attacks. I mean, their war machines are silly good, they are just super expensive.
I think Fireglaives are overcosted as well as guns. Your troops are there to survive and hold stuff up while you killerize them with other things. I don't think you want to take many infantry even though they are cool models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 05:15:49
Subject: 2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Shade of Despair and Torment
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Thank you. Food for deep thought before i commit big cash into this dream army....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 17:39:06
Subject: 2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Shade of Despair and Torment
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Apologies for those I offended.
I am still brainstorming the list an value other cd players input. Itis an expensive $ army for sure.
I have to get a solid list and then sell stuff on ebay, and hope to get cd minis cheaper via ebay...
I am not rich byany means....
Sorry to have come acrossthat way if I did.....
Automatically Appended Next Post:
This is what I originally thought (I like these models best too)
Lord (570)
Drazhoath 570pts
Heroes (440)
Daemonsmith level 2 wizard & black hammer of hashut 165pts
Daemonsmith level 1 & armour of bazherak 145pts.
Infernal Castellan carrying battle standard 130pts
Core (880)
18 infernal guard with command & pistol 250pts
18 infernal guard with command & pistol 250pts
13 infernal guard with command & fireglaves & pistol 190pts
13 infernal guard with command & fireglaves & pistol 190pts
Special (610)
Magma cannon & hellbound 170pts
Deathshrieker 100pts
Skullcracker on carriage (inc) & hellbound 340pts
Rare
None
Ttl 2500 pts exactly
I could drop the shrieker, & hellbounds, (freeing up 150pts) and add 3 centaurs with leader for 140pts... I really like those new models.
Any thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/19 00:55:38
Subject: Re:2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Hard-Wired Sentinel Pilot
Nr London
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hmmm....
for a 2500 point game Draz is to expensive, what are you planning to do with him? Draz himself is no good in combat and you have nothing fast enough to support him and you will probabily loose to combat res. Plus he is a big target for a 4+/5++ save, and no save for the flying bull. Use a prophet on foot, protected by a unit +save 200 points which can be spent on another magma cannon + magic items for him.
Again whats your plans for the IG? The units are to small to take damage and still be combat viable, use 1 unit of 30 (or 40 if you really want) place the castellan here to make the unit stubborn then give him the Mask for 65 points.....the unit now causes fear! The castellan now has T5, 3+/4++ sv this unit is going no where!
Again....deamonsmiths, why waste points on magic weapon + armour, they already has S5 and 4+ sv. If they are in combat you are already in trouble. Put one in each of the fireglavies units within 3" of your warmachines for the rerolls....these should be used as support only fire or death lores only (fire for ranged support, death for character sniping).....do you really need standard and musician in the fireglaves? they should not be in combat way and save 40 points.
with the skullcracker if you get into combat with any large monster you will lose your thunder stomp and only have 3 S3 attacks per turn! Yes you have T8 W7 &3+ sv but are very vulnerable to metal lore spells and cannons.....a destroyer is cheaper causes terror, 4++ sv, if wounded reroll the dice and can fight everyone Automatically Appended Next Post: if you really like the Skull crusher model rather than a destroyer, why not take an iron daemon instead? its shooting ability fits better with your static army selection.
again no need for hellbound on the warmachine, unless you fight VC's a lot and the death shrieker is very hit and miss.
if you still want the warmachine theme, drop the hellbound and shrieker, use the saved points from your not needed fire glave command and buy a hell cannon! The bull centaurs Automatically Appended Next Post: The bull centaurs are great models but who will support them, nearly your whole army is static. The hellcannon not only gives more (powerfull) firepower but it is also an unbreakable terror causing close combat monster! no need to worry about harpies, pegasus knights, great eagles etc....plus a lovely model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/19 17:25:34
Subject: 2500 pt forgeworld chaos dwarf army
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Shade of Despair and Torment
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Thank you denilsta!
That is great info. Yeah, I really was thinking of scrapping the shrieker and add bc....doing death engine not skull....and the d model on bull is beautiful model but not great ingame......kdaii are also great models....
Thx
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