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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 14:33:07
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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My grandmother would refuse to allow us as kids to walk on opposites sides of a pole (being separated by a pole). She'd grab one of us to keep it from happening. She'd also make us say "bread and butter" after we passed it, too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 14:43:50
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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kronk wrote:My grandmother would refuse to allow us as kids to walk on opposites sides of a pole (being separated by a pole). She'd grab one of us to keep it from happening. She'd also make us say "bread and butter" after we passed it, too.
 Yup, my Grandma did that as well.
She actually felt so strongly about her superstitions that they would become problematic from time to time, I recall on many occasions getting into near car wrecks ( or having to drive blocks/miles in opposite dirrections) when black cats would cross her path.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 15:37:59
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Monster Rain wrote:I sometimes wonder if some people think something bad would happen if they didn't act like dicks at every opportunity when the subject of religion came up, even tangentially.
On topic, I knock on wood.
After reading some of the posts in this thread, I was thinking the exact same thing!
I like how superstitions immediately gets linked to religion and primitive thought. While I agree with the latter, the former really has no bearing in this conversation.
Like I said, I kiss my dice when they hit the floor, I don't know of anything religious about that. I'm a rational person for the most part, most things in my life are rarely attributed with religion or a higher power, but having a superstition makes me either primitive or religious, and if I'm religious I'm primitive? wtf?
People do these things for silly reasons.
Like bud light commercials are saying about football rituals... it's only weird if it doesn't work
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 15:44:08
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Man. I could get a week off for the things I want to say to you right now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 16:05:12
Subject: Your Superstitions
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chromedog wrote:I try to lead a life based on rational thought, so no primitive superstitions for me.
My wife's family are catholic. I'm an atheist. When they say grace - I don't join in - I just remain silent. I let them have their primitive superstitions.
Personally, I find atheism to be the most extreme of all religions - it is the belief that you know, with certainty, what isn't out there.
That said, tolerance is a virtue, but politeness is mandatory on Dakka - let's avoid intentionally inflammatory or derogatory language here, please, when discussing religion. It can look suspiciously like trolling, which can result in Bad Things happening to your ability to post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 16:30:55
Subject: Your Superstitions
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I don't have any superstitions, and I'm a huge baseball fan.
Janthkin wrote:Personally, I find atheism to be the most extreme of all religions - it is the belief that you know, with certainty, what isn't out there.
Huh? I know a lot of atheists and hardly any of them are "extreme". They simply don't believe in supernatural beings, dustman or ribwoman. It really couldn't be less extreme... the vast majority aren't activists in any way, shape or form and most don't even profess that they are atheist because they risk detriments from the loving religious folk--namely, their own family. Conversely, there's plenty of extreme religions in the full sense of the word.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 16:35:18
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor
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I'm not superstitious. It's bad luck to be superstitious...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 16:37:28
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Lt. Coldfire wrote:I don't have any superstitions, and I'm a huge baseball fan.
Janthkin wrote:Personally, I find atheism to be the most extreme of all religions - it is the belief that you know, with certainty, what isn't out there.
Huh? I know a lot of atheists and hardly any of them are "extreme". They simply don't believe in supernatural beings, dustman or ribwoman. It really couldn't be less extreme... the vast majority aren't activists in any way, shape or form and most don't even profess that they are atheist because they risk detriments from the loving religious folk--namely, their own family. Conversely, there's plenty of extreme religions in the full sense of the word.
And we're off.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 16:54:44
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Funny story about athiests, my university is a conservative Christian school, and they won't acknowledge one of their more famous Alumni, Madalyn Murray O'Hair, founder of the American Atheists.
Does praying to God before a major exam count as superstition? Is it okay if I start the prayer off with, "Hey God, I know we haven't talked since my last major exam, but..."
Seriously have done this before... I think it's how I survived Freshman and Sophomore year of college (when I had to take those pesky core classes that actually gave exams unlike my major classes which were all paper based).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 17:09:36
Subject: Re:Your Superstitions
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World-Weary Pathfinder
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I have a small ritual I go through (in MTG) when decks are cut.
Once I get my deck back, I turn the bottom card of the deck over (so it is face up against the second to bottom card). I then rotate the deck (so the "Magic: the Gathering" logo is upside down) and I deal myself my hand from the inverted deck. Strangely enough, I get an almost perfect hand (as far as that particular deck is concerned) each time.
Mind you, this is coming from someone who, multiple times, has drawn a starting hand devoid of lands while playing a "Land Deck" (40 Lands, 35 other cards).
This and drinking Dr. Pepper seems to produce better results when playing any non-video game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 17:25:22
Subject: Your Superstitions
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FITZZ wrote: ...or sweep over someones feet with a broom...or...hell...do any of the millions of things that my Grandma swore was "Bad Luck".
I thought the broom over the feet thing was supposed to mean you were going to be pregnant soon, which I guess could be thought of as bad luck
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 17:38:17
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Fixture of Dakka
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Lt. Coldfire wrote: Janthkin wrote:Personally, I find atheism to be the most extreme of all religions - it is the belief that you know, with certainty, what isn't out there.
Huh? I know a lot of atheists and hardly any of them are "extreme". They simply don't believe in supernatural beings, dustman or ribwoman. It really couldn't be less extreme... the vast majority aren't activists in any way, shape or form and most don't even profess that they are atheist because they risk detriments from the loving religious folk--namely, their own family. Conversely, there's plenty of extreme religions in the full sense of the word.
I didn't say atheists are extreme. It's the belief system that I find extreme - at the core, atheism is the belief that there isn't any greater being or power that aided in creation or evolution in any way.
It's trying to prove a negative, which is a logical impossibility. So you have to take it on belief that there is nothing to believe in.
Personally, I find agnostics much easier to understand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 17:52:28
Subject: Your Superstitions
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How can you believe without proof? Why is that extreme? While atheists say they don't believe in god, I think you'll find that most would change that if proof of the divine were offered. Even so called extreme athirsts like Richard Dawkins say that they don't believe in atheism absolutely in itself and without evidence. They look at the evidence there is and draw a conclusion, they aren't closed to the possibility evidence to the contrary. Indeed there are avenues for people to win large prizes if they can prove the supernatural, see the Randi prize. If evidence of the divine were found many atheists would believe, why not? It would be demonstrable fact. Now how many theists will reject god, or the supposed works of god, in the face of colossal evidence? Hmmm...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 18:20:51
Subject: Your Superstitions
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World-Weary Pathfinder
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Janthkin wrote:I didn't say atheists are extreme. It's the belief system that I find extreme - at the core, atheism is the belief that there isn't any greater being or power that aided in creation or evolution in any way.
It's trying to prove a negative, which is a logical impossibility.
<Joins in>
Actually, proving a negative is simple.
Given "A" = "There is syrup on my pancakes."
"-A" would then be = "There is no syrup on my pancakes."
Observation shows "There is no syrup on my pancakes."
Thus, "-A" is true.
The problem with arguing about the existence of one or more modern gods is that all "modern" gods cannot be observed least the observer dies or is already dead. This make observation impossible. Arguing about the existence of any god is arguing about something in which neither party has any knowledge except hearsay and arguments made from others in the same situation. This is why it is called a BELIEF.
be·lief
[bih-leef]
noun
1. something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat.
2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief.
3. confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents.
4. a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith: the Christian belief.
source = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/belief
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 18:23:58
Subject: Re:Your Superstitions
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I have a number of superstitions. I follow the first 4 almost always. The rest are bonuses lol
1. I only use dice the color of my models or army.
2.Every model I use must be painted and wysiwyged.
3.I eat one lemon snack pie AND drink a red energy drink during the game.
4. For wh40k, I only use hqs that cost no more then 115. It must have a gun no one takes and must be able to insta death meq characters in cc.
Bonuses
5. I must give myself disadvanteges like having 100 points less then my opponent and/or not letting one or two models use there full attacks. My opponent must never know unless he inquires.
6. This is the weirdest one. If I'm on a loose streak I look for a 4 leaf clover and eat it. Iv eaten at least 7 so far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 19:52:22
Subject: Your Superstitions
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KalashnikovMarine wrote:I always check rooms for escape routes and defensive points as well as assess possible attack avenues... it's as automatic as checking people who walk by me visually for weapons. I get really twitchy without my back to some kind of wall, preferably with a decent view of the rest of the room...
Lesse... whenever I need luck I wear my dog tags and my "bullet with my name on it" (an actual live 7.62x39mm round)
I feel uncomfortable sleeping in a room with an unsecured door and without a weapon to hand.
Oh and I have a dream catcher. I used to have terribad nightmares as a kid... I don't really have them these days. My dreams are either good or insanely surreal.
I am the same with the top part, well the sitting with your back to a wall.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 20:53:03
Subject: Your Superstitions
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I'm with you on that one, except I expect myself to burst into flames if I go withing 50' of one.
Another one i do is if i see a squirrel on the road i have to swerve and hit the little bugger, cause hell if you can hit a squirrel 3 out of 10 times you can run over terrorists without missing when/ if they eventually invade the island.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 21:05:49
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Fixture of Dakka
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Cheesecat wrote: KalashnikovMarine wrote:I always check rooms for escape routes and defensive points as well as assess possible attack avenues... it's as automatic as checking people who walk by me visually for weapons. I get really twitchy without my back to some kind of wall, preferably with a decent view of the rest of the room...
Lesse... whenever I need luck I wear my dog tags and my "bullet with my name on it" (an actual live 7.62x39mm round)
I feel uncomfortable sleeping in a room with an unsecured door and without a weapon to hand.
Oh and I have a dream catcher. I used to have terribad nightmares as a kid... I don't really have them these days. My dreams are either good or insanely surreal.
I don't think a lot of those are superstitions because a lot of those examples can be explained due to your army background.
The term you're looking of is paranoia not superstition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 22:54:36
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Howard A Treesong wrote:How can you believe without proof? Why is that extreme? While atheists say they don't believe in god, I think you'll find that most would change that if proof of the divine were offered. Even so called extreme athirsts like Richard Dawkins say that they don't believe in atheism absolutely in itself and without evidence. They look at the evidence there is and draw a conclusion, they aren't closed to the possibility evidence to the contrary. Indeed there are avenues for people to win large prizes if they can prove the supernatural, see the Randi prize. If evidence of the divine were found many atheists would believe, why not? It would be demonstrable fact. Now how many theists will reject god, or the supposed works of god, in the face of colossal evidence? Hmmm...
This. I am an atheist, but i will happily convert if I am given proof that god/whatever exists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 23:12:28
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Fixture of Dakka
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Norn King wrote: Howard A Treesong wrote:How can you believe without proof? Why is that extreme? While atheists say they don't believe in god, I think you'll find that most would change that if proof of the divine were offered. Even so called extreme athirsts like Richard Dawkins say that they don't believe in atheism absolutely in itself and without evidence. They look at the evidence there is and draw a conclusion, they aren't closed to the possibility evidence to the contrary. Indeed there are avenues for people to win large prizes if they can prove the supernatural, see the Randi prize. If evidence of the divine were found many atheists would believe, why not? It would be demonstrable fact. Now how many theists will reject god, or the supposed works of god, in the face of colossal evidence? Hmmm...
This. I am an atheist, but i will happily convert if I am given proof that god/whatever exists.
See, that's essentially the definition of agnostic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/28 23:42:43
Subject: Re:Your Superstitions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I have a thing with not trash talking/making fun of someone(in a mean way of course) while they arnt there to defend themselves. I call it bad JuJu. I think the universe will rabbit punch me in the head if I do that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 01:26:41
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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Janthkin wrote: Norn King wrote: Howard A Treesong wrote:How can you believe without proof? Why is that extreme? While atheists say they don't believe in god, I think you'll find that most would change that if proof of the divine were offered. Even so called extreme athirsts like Richard Dawkins say that they don't believe in atheism absolutely in itself and without evidence. They look at the evidence there is and draw a conclusion, they aren't closed to the possibility evidence to the contrary. Indeed there are avenues for people to win large prizes if they can prove the supernatural, see the Randi prize. If evidence of the divine were found many atheists would believe, why not? It would be demonstrable fact. Now how many theists will reject god, or the supposed works of god, in the face of colossal evidence? Hmmm...
This. I am an atheist, but i will happily convert if I am given proof that god/whatever exists.
See, that's essentially the definition of agnostic.
Not really because an agnostic is unsure of God's existence whereas an atheist has decided that God doesn't exist. If I'm correct, Norn King has taken the position that God doesn't exist because there's been no evidence to prove his existence, and will remain so unless God's existence
can be proven.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 01:38:24
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Don’t leave the fan on when you sleep or else fan will steal your soul
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 02:06:09
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Cheesecat, you have got it right. I think the idea of god and religion is ridiculous, but, if god or some other diety were to appear in front of me, of course i would convert.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 02:23:11
Subject: Your Superstitions
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When I go out, even though I hate it, I wear pants. Because ghosts fear pants, and I find ghosts to be obtuse and somewhat childish.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 14:24:45
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Stalwart Space Marine
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Welp. I have no soul then because I can't sleep without a fan running  , and all this time I thought I just sold it to GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 14:26:41
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Wow, No wonder i have gotten so angry lately, my soul is gone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 14:38:09
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Janthkin wrote: chromedog wrote:I try to lead a life based on rational thought, so no primitive superstitions for me. My wife's family are catholic. I'm an atheist. When they say grace - I don't join in - I just remain silent. I let them have their primitive superstitions.
Personally, I find atheism to be the most extreme of all religions - it is the belief that you know, with certainty, what isn't out there. That said, tolerance is a virtue, but politeness is mandatory on Dakka - let's avoid intentionally inflammatory or derogatory language here, please, when discussing religion. It can look suspiciously like trolling, which can result in Bad Things happening to your ability to post.
Atheism is NOT a religion (as religion is an organised collection of beliefs in some form of higher power), many people think it is (perhaps because the idea of being non-religious, especially for countries like America, is an alien concept, but that is out of my ability to comment), it is merely the lack of acceptance of a proposition due to lack of evidence, not the proof of a negative. In logic, the default stance would be atheism (the absence of belief of a higher power, or more broadly, the supernatural, purely for convenience I will use supernatural to mean both). Religion makes the claim of the existence of such powers (a positive statement). Burden of proof is therefore on religion. Depending on an individual's perception of the world there is either not enough evidence (such as in chromedog's and I's case) in which case, the claim is dismissed due to lack of evidence or there is (such as the majority of posters on this discussion board) in which case, belief in higher power. Now to add a little more to that, you can be gnostically atheist, agnostically atheist, gnostically theist or agnostically theist. If someone is gnostic, then they also believe that the supernatural can be empirically verified whether it exists or not (theist or atheist respectively) If someone is agnostic then they also believe that the supernatural cannot be empirically verified whether it exists or not(theist or atheist). As an example to end this on. I am a gnostic atheist, this means that I do not believe in the existence of the supernatural and/or higher powers and I believe that the existence of such can be verified whether it exists or not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 14:51:47
Subject: Your Superstitions
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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chromedog wrote:I try to lead a life based on rational thought, so no primitive superstitions for me.
My wife's family are catholic. I'm an atheist. When they say grace - I don't join in - I just remain silent. I let them have their primitive superstitions.
Good thing you don't have issues about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 15:01:02
Subject: Your Superstitions
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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Papasmerv wrote: FITZZ wrote: ...or sweep over someones feet with a broom...or...hell...do any of the millions of things that my Grandma swore was "Bad Luck".
I thought the broom over the feet thing was supposed to mean you were going to be pregnant soon, which I guess could be thought of as bad luck 
Apparently the superstitions connected to having ones feet swept over varies, I've heard everything from " You'll never get maried" ( not sure that that's really a bad thing) to " You'll go to prison".
In my Grandma's house ( though the reasons were never really clear) having your feet swept over was simply " Bad Luck".
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