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2012/11/28 21:17:00
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
I don't what I am supposed to get out of this, that people who have failed marriages and can't support there children are bad? A father is disappointed in his children? How is this news or even post worthy?
2012/11/28 21:26:14
Subject: Re:'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
InquisitorVaron wrote: I'd be a one in ten then, I'm being told off for not being in schooling even when then know my previous school took away all my GCSEs back to four so I couldn't go to college.
All because I spoke out about maltr eatment, talk about idiocy
Just for us Yanks that don't know, what are GCSEs, and how does them being taken away prevent you from getting into school?
To go to college for A levels you need five of them for any decent A level all above C grade.
The school took me back to the mandatory four because I didn't attend classes which I will explain if you wish, even though I had shown with tests I would get above a C.
GCSEs are your end of secondary school test to show how smart you are, sats are yours I think?
Essentially they're a waste of time and are easy, I wasn't in school since 13 due to some reasons yet still got a B in maths two boundaries off top marks. The problem is they cost £400 per test, and I'm not one to drop £2000 for them exen if I have the money come on LEA roll a six
2012/11/28 21:31:04
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
That still doesn't make any sense to me. I am sure Brits understand what you wrote completly though.
Have you thought about a future in haberdashery?
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2012/11/28 21:38:37
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
I was going to be taking nine they took me to four which is the minimal allowed legally.
I need five to move on fourteen was originally the plan at my first normal nonboarding school.
Ignore what they are and just look at what they achieve it's easier to explain that way
2012/11/28 21:51:26
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
InquisitorVaron wrote: I was going to be taking nine they took me to four which is the minimal allowed legally.
I need five to move on fourteen was originally the plan at my first normal nonboarding school.
Ignore what they are and just look at what they achieve it's easier to explain that way
Whembly is so confused.... o.O
So... basically, you're trying to skip some grades?
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2012/11/28 22:24:47
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
In Year 7 at the age of 12 I was a bright student going to take my tests early and lots of them, a GCSE is a singular subject like maths or english and so on. So at this point I was taking 14 in Year 9/10 and doing AS which is the first of two years at A level in year 11.
I messed around in my first year due to being ahead of my fellow students thus repeating everything I knew which is a waste of time. Before doing this I had asked if I could skip that bit and get onto things I didn't know.
So I was put in the naughty books and used as a scapegoat after they found out I had aspergers, this meant they could make an example of me so the others would become quiet and then claim I'm lying when I say I did nothing and get away with it.
So I left at age 13 or Year 8 after they punished me with a two hour after school detention for threating to kill someone on a day when I was ill and wasn't even there. Enough was enough of that gak.
So I pursued home teaching and my LEA or local education authority would pay for the tests, they backed down and I was forced to find a school.
Year 9 my parents decide a special school will do the trick, a stupid move...
I didn't want to go but I did, I boarded there the Education was back to year 7 again, my class were moronic with maths lessons consisting of 21+34 is?
So I didn't attend until year 10 which is the start of the GCSE tests.
[I've missed out the not being fed bit where I wouldn't be given my meals because I had told them to stop bullying the worse off kids with sarcastic comments which they don't understand] Anyway back to the education, they take away the amount I was going to take because I didn't attend lessons because I had no energy or desire to do so, even when I took mock tests to prove I would get above C.
At which point my near future crumbles and I put my energy in to getting out of that school, my parents didn't think anything was happening as the school said I was starving myself and rammed a outstanding ofsted report in their face [On that note I should photographic proof of unhegenic conditions and a bruise I had gotten from being pinned down for being agressive and by agressive I mean questioning their spelling and pointing out how it was a false record, at which point they say I'm not allowed into the kitchen and I break and swear at them][The unhegenic wrong spelling I know conditions were about a dozen dead flies in my kitchen and a week old stain of pasta sauce in the oven, none of which created by me as this was when I came back from a month holiday]
I finally get out in year 11 at 16 it's been 6 months now and my parents are saying it's my fault and I wasted time. The first four months were recovery as I had lost over three stone rapidly and put it on when I came back and off when I went back so my organs and life were pretty screwed up.
I'm now talking to the LEA about them paying for my education and eventually a solicitor to make a claim for negligence. I think the main reason my parents are anoyed is it cost £30,000 in legal fees for them to persuade the LEA to get me there.
Heh ho life goes on, but the most tragic part is no one will give a feth and I wrote this on my mobile so my thumbs are cramped.
TL;DR
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2012/11/29 01:49:46
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
Frazzled wrote: That still doesn't make any sense to me. I am sure Brits understand what you wrote completly though.
The answer I think you want is that GCSEs are General Certificates of Standard education (If I remember correctly, it's been a while), exams normally taken at age 16.
I am, however, always prepared to be wrong.
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2012/11/29 02:05:38
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
I've written quite a few nasty, venomous letters to lovers simply for the pleasure of making them cry. You can almost feel their stomach turn and the tears welling up in their eyes. Delicious.
This takes the cake though. Oddly, when I read that he was a British Naval Officer, it seemed fitting.
2012/11/29 02:06:34
Subject: Re:'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
See, any parent can get a bad kid. Some kids are just plain hard work, and parenting seems to me a slippery slope, where one problem is likely to lead to another, and another and so on. So if a parent has one useless kid then maybe we shouldn't assume the parents did anything wrong.
But when you have three kids and they're all useless, I'm inclined to think the parents probably did a fair few things wrong along the way.
So when the father in the OP's story says 'I haven't been a very good father' I'm inclined to say 'no, probably not.'
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/11/29 02:13:35
Subject: Re:'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
If all three of your children are horrible feth-ups, despite the fact that they came from a wealthy background and were very well educated, odds are that you failed somewhere as a parent. If the guy had only one one or two feth-ups of children, I might side with him, but so far he has a 100% failure rate as a parent.
2012/11/29 02:29:17
Subject: Re:'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
LoneLictor wrote:If all three of your children are horrible feth-ups, despite the fact that they came from a wealthy background and were very well educated, odds are that you failed somewhere as a parent. If the guy had only one one or two feth-ups of children, I might side with him, but so far he has a 100% failure rate as a parent.
I don't think it's fair to say "100%" is his fail rate... the article mentions that he has a daughter, yet makes no mention of her being a stripper. And I'm pretty sure your daughter has to become a stripper in order to achieve the mythic 100% rate of parent-fail.
2012/11/29 02:32:03
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/11/29 02:53:53
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/11/29 02:59:08
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
MeanGreenStompa wrote: We'd get them coming into the pubs in Cornwall... Grown adults in their 30s, 40s and even 50s without a fething clue, all aspiring novelists and artists and photographers come to 'discover themselves' or some such bollocks.
Tepid bastards with no backbone and no hard work in them. They'd have their wealthy parents buy them a big house that decent working people couldn't afford in the town and then they'd start trying to sell driftwood framed mirrors with shells glued on for seven hundred quid or black and white pictures of ripples in the beach sand for an equally silly amount. Then they'd sidle up next to you in the pub, tell you about how gak their life was because mater and pater wouldn't fund this 'amazing project' they envisioned and what a terrible life it was, after I'd just pulled a shift in Child Protection and wanted to drown my brain in beer quietly.
feth them all to hell.
I take it you don't like artists? You would have hated Van Gogh, that's for sure. He was a neurotic if ever there was one.
I don't think it's a matter of not liking artists.
It's about not liking losers who think they are artists, but actually just suck at life. We have them in the states, too. I like to call them hipsters.
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2012/11/29 03:56:01
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
InquisitorVaron wrote: I was going to be taking nine they took me to four which is the minimal allowed legally.
I need five to move on fourteen was originally the plan at my first normal nonboarding school.
Ignore what they are and just look at what they achieve it's easier to explain that way
Whembly is so confused.... o.O
So... basically, you're trying to skip some grades?
+1 to Whembly here. The British education system is really crazy to us Americans.
For one thing, we aren't required to take any national standardized tests, save for a select few, and we only have two predominant college entrance tests we take when we are 16-18 - the ACT or any of the many SATs.
It's about not liking losers who think they are artists, but actually just suck at life. We have them in the states, too. I like to call them hipsters.
Absolutely. I mean, you like art? Then do art. And in the meantime get a job and work and pay for yourself and don't lean on anyone else. Then odds are you're awesome, even if your art sucks. Maybe one day you'll get your breakthrough and live off your art, but probably you won't so in the meantime set yourself up for a proper, adult life.
But if you like talking about art, and living an artist lifestyle which basically means fething about all day and living off your parents/whatever member of the opposite sex was charmed enough to have you scrounge off them for a period of time, then odds are you're a feth up.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/11/29 03:59:57
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
It's about not liking losers who think they are artists, but actually just suck at life. We have them in the states, too. I like to call them hipsters.
Ah, now I see. That's good to know - I'd hate to be an enemy of MGS. I love photography and writing, and are considering those subjects as careers, but I do wanna avoid the trap of unemployed hipsterdom. Hell, I'd rather scrub toilets than be totally dependent on my family and the government (though my family is way too willing to support me if I chose the life of an unemployed artist).
_Tim>
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...and you will know them by the Polaroid App on their iPhone and general nonchalant mincing.
Replace "Hot Girl" with "Hipster Arsepiece"
Living in a city heavily influenced by art means you see these kind of people all the god damned time. There is some great art, but a lot of "not so much"
...and you will know them by the Polaroid App on their iPhone and general nonchalant mincing.
I'd get an app instead of a $300 camera too.
I seem to recall my Polaroid cost like $15 plus a pack of paper for $10 so I could take edgy photos of hookers and drunk friends.
Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/11/29 17:53:31
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
...and you will know them by the Polaroid App on their iPhone and general nonchalant mincing.
I'd get an app instead of a $300 camera too.
I seem to recall my Polaroid cost like $15 plus a pack of paper for $10 so I could take edgy photos of hookers and drunk friends.
Didn't you pose them to be hookers with drunk friends?
2012/11/29 18:04:11
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
...and you will know them by the Polaroid App on their iPhone and general nonchalant mincing.
I'd get an app instead of a $300 camera too.
I seem to recall my Polaroid cost like $15 plus a pack of paper for $10 so I could take edgy photos of hookers and drunk friends.
Didn't you pose them to be hookers with drunk friends?
Nope I posed my drunk friends as hookers
#poortaste
Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/11/29 18:15:11
Subject: Re:'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
InquisitorVaron wrote: I'd be a one in ten then, I'm being told off for not being in schooling even when then know my previous school took away all my GCSEs back to four so I couldn't go to college.
All because I spoke out about maltr eatment, talk about idiocy
Just for us Yanks that don't know, what are GCSEs, and how does them being taken away prevent you from getting into school?
To go to college for A levels you need five of them for any decent A level all above C grade.
The school took me back to the mandatory four because I didn't attend classes which I will explain if you wish, even though I had shown with tests I would get above a C.
GCSEs are your end of secondary school test to show how smart you are, sats are yours I think?
Essentially they're a waste of time and are easy, I wasn't in school since 13 due to some reasons yet still got a B in maths two boundaries off top marks. The problem is they cost £400 per test, and I'm not one to drop £2000 for them exen if I have the money come on LEA roll a six
1) GCSEs cost about £35 per test, depending on where you sit them. Before you dispute this, I know it to be true as I was Head of Learning for a GCSE cohort last year.
2) There ARE good courses where you can be doing something useful without having 5 good GCSEs if you can show a good attitude. I know this by getting kids onto those courses. B in maths is a half-decent grade. What do you have in English? You may not get the exact course you want, but guess what, that is life.
3) You were withdrawn from all but four GCSEs? Apart from Maths, what grades did you get in the ones you sat? Or do you have an excuse for failing them too?
4) You've posted all of this stuff before. As an education professional, I find your desire to blame everyone else sadly unsurprising. The system clearly doesn't suit you, but instead of doing your best, within it, compromising, or finding an alternative, you demand the system bend over backwards for you. Now, I am sure you will repeat all of the things you have said regarding hygiene, how you have been mistreated, etc, but I get these things thrown at me quite regularly, although on a smaller scale, and your cried just echo what I hear from every child who doesn't want to grow up.
Though guards may sleep and ships may lay at anchor, our foes know full well that big guns never tire.
First off I will say your cynical to my situation due to your experiences. I would be if I had experienced what you had for aslong.
1. Go find me a company that services a singular independant child for £35, since that doesn't include teaching and books. I will needs books to learn from...
2. Let me guess a level two BTEC in a practical skill such as plumbing? Or non A levels like Travel and tourism or photography?
3. Maths was the only test I took all the modules for and I failed in my calculator paper. I got a C in English after getting A* in all the modules I took and since I wasn't able to attend around 40% of the test much the same with the Science except I missed 50% and got Two D's. All of which I achieved without attending any class for five years. The tests were missed due to health issues down to the starving.
4. You have me wrongly pegged, I'm demanding now after they have failed me it didn't start like that.
First school I asked for a compromise only the Geography teacher put me on a different course after I did a test for GCSE in Year 7 and got flawless marks.
The rest ignored my polite request for harder work, which led to young headstrong me messing around geetting in the naughty books and being excluded for months on end, so I left before I was perma excluded which would've made me one of the 500 or so who were.
I was being homeschooled and was going to take the tests early but the LEA backed away and told me I had to be connected to a school to take them.
Now being excluded so much no normal mainstream school was going to take me, so it was a borstal style school or a specialist one since I have Aspergers. Mild mind you I've fooled specialists about it.
Go there maltreatment and so on and get taken down to the minimum because I spoke out and because I made a criminal of the headteacher infront of a "independant" person.
I end up here and after recovering mostly mentally as you can tell I still harbour intese hatred of the school I've been talking to the LEA about getting me more GCSE tests so I can go to mainstream college and take true A Levels that I want.
A talk on thursday next week will see if I have permission to do so.
I will and do accept the wise move would've been to be quiet take the boring slow route and ended up with 14 A*s early with good prospects, but I was a headstrong youth with Aspergers I didn't want to be slowed down. Other than that secondary failing by me the system has failed me.
Go ahead pick it apart
2012/11/30 00:14:06
Subject: 'Bitterly' Disappointed Dad's Email to Children Goes Viral
InquisitorVaron wrote: First off I will say your cynical to my situation due to your experiences. I would be if I had experienced what you had for aslong.
1. Go find me a company that services a singular independant child for £35, since that doesn't include teaching and books. I will needs books to learn from...
2. Let me guess a level two BTEC in a practical skill such as plumbing? Or non A levels like Travel and tourism or photography?
3. Maths was the only test I took all the modules for and I failed in my calculator paper. I got a C in English after getting A* in all the modules I took and since I wasn't able to attend around 40% of the test much the same with the Science except I missed 50% and got Two D's. All of which I achieved without attending any class for five years. The tests were missed due to health issues down to the starving.
4. You have me wrongly pegged, I'm demanding now after they have failed me it didn't start like that.
First school I asked for a compromise only the Geography teacher put me on a different course after I did a test for GCSE in Year 7 and got flawless marks.
The rest ignored my polite request for harder work, which led to young headstrong me messing around geetting in the naughty books and being excluded for months on end, so I left before I was perma excluded which would've made me one of the 500 or so who were.
I was being homeschooled and was going to take the tests early but the LEA backed away and told me I had to be connected to a school to take them.
Now being excluded so much no normal mainstream school was going to take me, so it was a borstal style school or a specialist one since I have Aspergers. Mild mind you I've fooled specialists about it.
Go there maltreatment and so on and get taken down to the minimum because I spoke out and because I made a criminal of the headteacher infront of a "independant" person.
I end up here and after recovering mostly mentally as you can tell I still harbour intese hatred of the school I've been talking to the LEA about getting me more GCSE tests so I can go to mainstream college and take true A Levels that I want.
A talk on thursday next week will see if I have permission to do so.
I will and do accept the wise move would've been to be quiet take the boring slow route and ended up with 14 A*s early with good prospects, but I was a headstrong youth with Aspergers I didn't want to be slowed down. Other than that secondary failing by me the system has failed me.
Go ahead pick it apart
Well, at least you are willing to admit your mistakes. That's always a good thing.