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I'd like to take a moment to applaud Commander Crews, at the very least he can admit he fethed up, and honestly inform the results of his parenting fail that they too are feth ups.

 Fifty wrote:
4) You've posted all of this stuff before. As an education professional, I find your desire to blame everyone else sadly unsurprising. The system clearly doesn't suit you, but instead of doing your best, within it, compromising, or finding an alternative, you demand the system bend over backwards for you. Now, I am sure you will repeat all of the things you have said regarding hygiene, how you have been mistreated, etc, but I get these things thrown at me quite regularly, although on a smaller scale, and your cried just echo what I hear from every child who doesn't want to grow up.

Thanks for posting that. From my albeit limited experience with public education, I've seen a system that bends over backwards to accomodate students unlike, well basically any other human institution on Earth. And despite that I've heard countless stories of students who were hard done by the crazy and often spiteful for no particular reason Dept of Education.

 sebster wrote:

 Fifty wrote:
4) You've posted all of this stuff before. As an education professional, I find your desire to blame everyone else sadly unsurprising. The system clearly doesn't suit you, but instead of doing your best, within it, compromising, or finding an alternative, you demand the system bend over backwards for you. Now, I am sure you will repeat all of the things you have said regarding hygiene, how you have been mistreated, etc, but I get these things thrown at me quite regularly, although on a smaller scale, and your cried just echo what I hear from every child who doesn't want to grow up.

Thanks for posting that. From my albeit limited experience with public education, I've seen a system that bends over backwards to accomodate students unlike, well basically any other human institution on Earth. And despite that I've heard countless stories of students who were hard done by the crazy and often spiteful for no particular reason Dept of Education.

Show me one example of the LEA bending over backwards for my education?

 InquisitorVaron wrote:
First off I will say your cynical to my situation due to your experiences. I would be if I had experienced what you had for aslong.


2. Let me guess a level two BTEC in a practical skill such as plumbing? Or non A levels like Travel and tourism or photography?

You wouldn't get on a plumbing apprenticeship. You need GCSEs.

 Albatross wrote:

 InquisitorVaron wrote:
First off I will say your cynical to my situation due to your experiences. I would be if I had experienced what you had for aslong.


2. Let me guess a level two BTEC in a practical skill such as plumbing? Or non A levels like Travel and tourism or photography?

You wouldn't get on a plumbing apprenticeship. You need GCSEs.

I was offered that so don't give me that malcom tucker
And no not by my LEA...

What age are you now?

Seventeen, still within the education systems fold.

InquisitorVaron wrote:
Seventeen, still within the education systems fold.

better get in education or job by 18, or life is going to get very hard.

p.s Aspergers is not an excuse, I am also Aspergers and did very well in my gcses i just lack attention span, social skills or desire to mature. which are the main reasons I remain unemployed.

Well, I won't assume you haven't investigated all the options, but I surprised you couldn't get some help. All the students who were excluded from my last school were able to complete qualifications at various centres.

Glad to hear it nom
Not using it as an excuse it was a factor when I was younger, now I've never been called out for having Aspergers as I mostly appear normal.

Da Boss I've exhausted most of the options, to fill my time I'm volountering at Oxfam and I've applied for two jobs and got two responses back but decided not to follow up because I fear if I got the job it would make my life harder to persuade the LEA to fund education.

InquisitorVaron wrote:
Glad to hear it nom
Not using it as an excuse it was a factor when I was younger, now I've never been called out for having Aspergers as I mostly appear normal.

Da Boss I've exhausted most of the options, to fill my time I'm volountering at Oxfam and I've applied for two jobs and got two responses back but decided not to follow up because I fear if I got the job it would make my life harder to persuade the LEA to fund education.

Apply for part-time work, they shouldn't really have to many issues with that. if jobseekers and housing benefits still pay you whilst in part time work I imagine the lea will still help.

The LEA are weasly beggars, the point they would make is if I could get a paid job then I could work my way up into better pay through experience.
Part time can become full time at the snap of some fingers so their arguement would still stand.

I take no chances with them after they backed out of paying for my GCSE's when homeschooled.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Tepid bastards with no backbone and no hard work in them. They'd have their wealthy parents buy them a big house that decent working people couldn't afford in the town and then they'd start trying to sell driftwood framed mirrors with shells glued on for seven hundred quid or black and white pictures of ripples in the beach sand for an equally silly amount.

No, the worst ones are the ones that people actually pay the stupid amounts of money to, because they get to put on airs. When I still worked for my parents I had to deal with these asshats. They either think they're 'artists' (of which damn few really were IMHO) or are self important because they have the right last name.

InquisitorVaron wrote:

 Albatross wrote:

 InquisitorVaron wrote:
First off I will say your cynical to my situation due to your experiences. I would be if I had experienced what you had for aslong.


2. Let me guess a level two BTEC in a practical skill such as plumbing? Or non A levels like Travel and tourism or photography?

You wouldn't get on a plumbing apprenticeship. You need GCSEs.

I was offered that so don't give me that malcom tucker
And no not by my LEA...

Oh, the ones I had seen had that as a minimum entry requirement. I stand corrected. You should do it! They earn good money. You'll pretty much instantly be earning way more money than your friends when you're qualified. Also, unless you get your GCSEs sorted soon, you won't be able to do A-Levels, which means no Uni till 26 (iirc).

 Albatross wrote:

InquisitorVaron wrote:

 Albatross wrote:

 InquisitorVaron wrote:
First off I will say your cynical to my situation due to your experiences. I would be if I had experienced what you had for aslong.


2. Let me guess a level two BTEC in a practical skill such as plumbing? Or non A levels like Travel and tourism or photography?

You wouldn't get on a plumbing apprenticeship. You need GCSEs.

I was offered that so don't give me that malcom tucker
And no not by my LEA...

Oh, the ones I had seen had that as a minimum entry requirement. I stand corrected. You should do it! They earn good money. You'll pretty much instantly be earning way more money than your friends when you're qualified. Also, unless you get your GCSEs sorted soon, you won't be able to do A-Levels, which means no Uni till 26 (iirc).

GCSE's will be sorted on thursday hopefully.
I thought about it because pay is good since the oncall pay and overtime, but I wouldn't enjoy it and my social life would become moot due to sporadic shifts.
Somehow I don't see myself enjoying unblocking gakky pipes, being a semi-posh south eastener

I would prefer a more academic job, chemistry maths sort of things coding would be nice

Most of the coders I've met seem to complain that they do the IT equivalent of unblocking gakky pipes Just saying.

 Albatross wrote:
Most of the coders I've met seem to complain that they do the IT equivalent of unblocking gakky pipes Just saying.

The IT equivilant doesn't stink as much, though. You can't do a half-arsed job of it and expect the kind of pay some plumbers do, however, so I guess it balances out somewhere along the line.

Depends on what type of coder you're going to be.
I would be prefering to code at the start up phase, let someone else clean up my possible gak.

Usually you're the one responsbile for your own coding. You code it, send it up to testing, and if they find a problem then it comes back to you. It helps eliminate problems that could arise from personal preferences and individual styles, as well as meaning they don't have to get anyone else up to speed on it and have them pester you every ten seconds asking questions about it.

Didn't realise I would send it to testers thought that was more with the game said?

Wow. That one post escalated into Aspergers? It's amazing how quickly people can get carried away.

 Mynameisalie wrote:
Wow. That one post escalated into Aspergers? It's amazing how quickly people can get carried away.

You must be new here.

Actually, I'm not that new.

 Mynameisalie wrote:
Actually, I'm not that new.

Sorry, if that came across as condescending it was more meant as joke, but yeah people on the Off-topic forum funnily enough go off-topic quite often (myself included).

Ah right. I'm not too good with sarcasm.

 Mynameisalie wrote:
Ah right. I'm not too good with sarcasm.

It's the internet. Sometimes it's hard to tell.

Frazzie, wide thread alert, can you or a mod please edit the OP and cut the link in with a tag.

[url=that long email address} link [/url}

 sebster wrote:

But if you like talking about art, and living an artist lifestyle which basically means fething about all day and living off your parents/whatever member of the opposite sex was charmed enough to have you scrounge off them for a period of time, then odds are you're a feth up.

This exactly. As someone pursuing a career in visual arts and graphic design, days where you're working for 12-14 hours straight should not be uncommon. A typical "day off" should see 4-6 hours of work at least. Anyone who thinks they can get by fething off all day won't go far and is one hell of a screw-up.

I work in schools and find this account of one man against the entire system somewhat difficult to swallow as being anywhere near the full story. So you messed around in school because you were too 'brilliant' for the classes and then wonder why they didn't enter you for exams when you never attended classes? At some point you will have been told that a basic level of attendance is required to be seriously considered for exam entry. That and an account of false reports about hygiene and hints of aggressive behaviour, in which you did nothing to warrant being expelled or physically restrained. Or how you 'spoke out' and 'made a criminal of the headteacher' (WTF does that even mean?). It doesn't stack up to me, 'headstrong teen that wanted to go too fast in a system that couldn't deal with him' is a good story/excuse from pupil/parents who apparently can pay out £30,000 for legal fees but who don't want to pay a few hundred for books and GCSEs exams to be taken independently.

Also you've said several times that you scored above a C for subjects, but you're going to need to do better than that to be capable of doing A-level courses. I'm sorry, but that's how it is. You need to be of A, or minimum B, standard to cope with the workload of A-levels that are much higher than GCSE. Your hopes of having an academic career in chemistry or maths requires A-levels and beyond, and you've missed out on a lot of basic schooling it seems.

In my experience there's a lot of support for people with genuine difficulties and the education system has a hell of a lot of support through schools for them. This idea that no one cares and the system is out to get them and oppress them is very much a child's point of view, often fuelled by blinkered parents, because they don't see a more rounded version of things from staff and see all the systems specifically in place to support and protect young people.

 Orlanth wrote:
Frazzie, wide thread alert, can you or a mod please edit the OP and cut the link in with a tag.

[url=that long email address} link [/url}

Good idea. Fixed.

Also, as a general reminder, we need to get back to the original topic if folks want to keep the thread open. People living crappy wannabe-artist lives and people failing in school are related tangents, but we're starting to wander a bit far afield.