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I may have a few more models coming in soon, and I have a shopping list to work on, so I'm trying to work out a couple solid competitive lists.

This is what I'm pretty sure to have:

2 Archon
Urien Rackarth
Lelith
Drazhar
3 haems
16 incubi
98 warriors (3 blasters, 3 shredders, 2 lances)
20 wyches
6 reavers
5 raiders
1 venom
1 ravager
1 razorwing

Now for the start of my shopping list:
3 venoms, 1-2 ravager, 6 reavers, 1 razorwing, 20 scourge, 20 hellions

other than going for a swarm of warriors and trueborn backed by lots of incubi and characters, I'm really not too sure where I should be heading.

Any help would be appreciated, wither help with lists, or changes to my shopping list, I want to get this up to around 5K before switching to one of my other armies. And without allies.

thanks

Looks like you can already do the solid tactic of loading up your warriors/trueborn on raiders and flying them around shooting from the open top. I have 10 hellions and have never gotten much use out of them. Especialy with the Stun claw only affecting independent characters so you cant just scoop up a random sargent. What you have already looks like a great build, I'm a fan of loading up wyches and dropping them into close combat from a transport but that doesnt seem to be a shared preference with the other DE players. It works for me though.

So other than venoms for truborn and wyches, I should be good?

I would deffinately invest in some wracks, you could get 20 of them instead of the hellions for roughly the same price I believe

flaming tadpole wrote:
I would deffinately invest in some wracks, you could get 20 of them instead of the hellions for roughly the same price I believe

So for troops go with warriors and wracks?, or a mix of war/wych/wrack?
For double FOC, I should be able to run 12 troop without a problem.

current list possibility

Archon: Venom blade, husk blade, HWG, ghostplate, shadowfield, combat drugs
Archon: Venom blabe, blast pistol, ghostplate, shadowfield, wwp

4 incubi venom, cannon

4x10 warriors cannon raider splinter racks
20 warriors 2x cannon
9 wyches HWG raider

2x3 reavers, heat lance, caltrops

ravager
razorwing, shatterfields, flickerfield

1997

wwp archon with wyches run up and drop portal, send warriors through to hold objective
dual wield archon with incubi to smash face

thoughts?

Overall pretty for a first try.
The archons are a little bloated. I would drop the blast pistol from the second archon and just take HWG's instead. Archons dont really need a pistol, throwing a plasma/haywire grenade is usually better. Might want to take a couple of hameys(liquifier+venom blade) over a second con. Give one of them a webway, and throw the other with the kabbie blob(21 bodies with fnp),maybe even consider a hexrifle here.

A kabbie blob of 20 on foot might benefit from a syrabite for ld purposes.

Monoscythe missiles are pretty solid, I would only take shatters if you need to kill points. Granted, shatterfield missiles are amazing....

If you want to rush the WWP raider, grab aethersails and a shock prow. You can move faster, and do some damage on the way in. Wytches plan on assaulting anyways.

 Dr. Serling wrote:
Overall pretty for a first try.
The archons are a little bloated. I would drop the blast pistol from the second archon and just take HWG's instead. Archons dont really need a pistol, throwing a plasma/haywire grenade is usually better. Might want to take a couple of hameys(liquifier+venom blade) over a second con. Give one of them a webway, and throw the other with the kabbie blob(21 bodies with fnp),maybe even consider a hexrifle here.

A kabbie blob of 20 on foot might benefit from a syrabite for ld purposes.

Monoscythe missiles are pretty solid, I would only take shatters if you need to kill points. Granted, shatterfield missiles are amazing....

If you want to rush the WWP raider, grab aethersails and a shock prow. You can move faster, and do some damage on the way in. Wytches plan on assaulting anyways.

OK, maybe swap out the WWP Archon for a haemi or 2 one with wwp/liquifier, one with hexrifle, I could see doing that.
The main reason i threw up the shatterfields was for points. Having a hard time fitting in other option with what I have available right now. So maybe drop the shatters down for the upgrades to the raiders...