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wargey wrote:
First life is 2 way if you would help me make the codex i will allow you my premition to use the powers but the fluff is sallie style so if you use it it should be for fire zombies and can you put a link in here


Thanks found it on a abandoned forum and it seemed well costed.

And you seem thing how good are you at making fluff so I could publish a actual codex.

Yeah I was thinking of the powers for a sallie librarian. I'll see if I use them then.

Ye use it but like help with my dex please (my sc get op).


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Could you like come up with the history of the chapter pleas and put it in the same format as the sm one.
Our Xmas party i might ask if I can use my dex play test what we have


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lord Of The Burning Sky's 210
ws4 bs5 s4 t4 i4 w3 ld10 s2+/4++

Special rules
Mark of what ever his name is all Sargent's can take ob +20
Sallie rules

Wargear
Artificer Amour
Flamewrought
He is the captain of the Battle Barge Flamwrought it has these rules
Teleport me out
Any fire drakes can "beam out" and tern up in deep strike 1 use

Broadside Salvo
The Flamewrought brigs its lance cannons to bear and fire
3 small blast templates can hit flyers each shot is with in 6"
s6 ap4 rending small blast 3 all 3 at same time in 6 inch of center

thunder hammer
drake cloak
same as firedrakes
inferno pistol

Well, I don't know what you've done with your tacs, but how about:

Normal tactical marines that can have:
Hvy Flamer.
And the sergeant could have:
Melta/Flamer Pistol.

Add an option to master craft all meltaguns, meltapistols, flamers and flamer pistols for the squad. Not Multimeltas or Hvy Flamers. Make it like 10-15 pts.

Terminators:
Tactical or Assault as normal, Sergeants may have Combi weapons, any kind of them that is, and they have power weapons. Also, add the same upgrade as for tacs, except that it works for Hvy Flamers for termies.

I'm thinking that could work for combi-weapons also.
Your termies and tacs have to follow the basic marine rules you see, as they are a codex compilant chapter.


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The Hvy Flamer should be 5pts for tacs I think, or free.
The upgrade should be AT LEAST 15pts. so this would conclude your tacs and termies, as the stuff you designed went a bit overboard IMO.

As for chapter special rules, replace either combat squads or - tactics with "High Gravity home world: all salamanders space marine units have -1 initiative and +1 strength, these modifications are made to their profiles and are included."

So all your basic tacs etc are I3, S5. a captain would be I4, S5.

What do you think? It is quite balanced I think, but different enough from normal marines.


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One more thing: Design the rest of your ules BEFORE you even touch the special characters. This makes sure that you know what kinds of powers you can give them.

Second: don't add too many. The IG codex has a lot of them, for a reason, but marine codices don't add all of the important characters.

Your posts are making much more sense and I really like your ideas, but try to use colour to break up the wall of text.

I did a White Scar fandex this summer, it might help you even more.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/464421.page

Um high grav meens they are faster they just cant train whith anti grav but ye sound good what would be stats for fp.




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Sallies have 7 captains 1 motf 1 Chaplin 1 libarian 2 upgrades.

Seeing every da Sargent is named and has sr I think this is OK.

wargey wrote:
Um high grav meens they are faster they just cant train whith anti grav but ye sound good what would be stats for fp.

No it doesn't. The high gravity causes them to grow much less, as it pulls them downwards constantly, so they are much shorter. They grow also much stronger because of this, but the increased muscle mass creates clumsier movements compared to other astartes. Believe me, I know their fluff too, but I also possess a relative interest tot he laws of physics.

Salamanders do not have to use the night fitting usr as the red eyes allow them to see on the infa-red band.

I don't think sallies should hit with guard but you could say strike after i4 but before i3.


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Tactical sq

Same as normal 1+ S -.5 I
Special rules
Hatred de
Promethean cult
Saviours of the guard
For the Emperor

Wargear
power amour
boltpistol boltgun
flamer
heavy flamer
flamepistol or malta pistol or combi bolter
master crafted chainblade
options
may master craft any weapon +10
sarge can take thunderhammer +30
or forge hammer +35
the squad can take salamander cloaks +10


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Promethean cult
All units have master crafted thunder hammers or forge hammers have twin linked melta pistols Malta guns multimeltas flame pistols flamers flamestorm cannon and heavy flamer.

For the Emperor
All units have i will not yield codex gk and charge
charge all units have +1 attack on the charge on top of the +1.

Saviours of the guard
All units will jump in front of a shot at a guard unit on a pass of a ld test the shot hits the sallies if a guard are i cc the sallies will travel to the guard uni.


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 LlamaAgility wrote:

Your termies and tacs have to follow the basic marine rules you see, as they are a codex compilant chapter.
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They are not they follow the Promethean cult all they adhere to is the 1000 marines which they dont no over chapter has the cm and regent as same man none over keep there primachs body guard none over codex chapter are so willing to die to save a human they will kill any enemy as they swore that they would not be non traitor untill all of chaos or aliens they have not got any other chapter that are there successors they have a forge father


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Gr8 painting tutorial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1nnWcnnYHk

sallies are nown for being restant to fire and mepta wepons all flame wepons are s1 ap- and melta wepons are s4 ap5 only on the sallies.

-0.5 I is just too annoying to determine. Please note that all residents of Nocturne are slower than humans. This means, that the space marine modifications that add the +1I, when comparing SM to guard.

That would basically just mean that a normal Nocturnean would be I2, please, once again cut down the fanboy gak and stay in the fluff.

The red eyes thing: Acute Senses (swap combat tactics)
Resistance to flame/melta weapons: all Flame/melta weapons have -1S and one worse AP against Salamanders' units.

This keeps it balanced, but still grants them an advantage against the certain type of weaponry.

I like sallies and others too, but adding more and more extra abilities and/or making them incredibly over exaggerated is just wardish/kellyish (to some extent, I.E Thunderwolf Cavalry, kinda).

Listen to the criticism you get, instead of crushing it with your boot.

ye bur fierdrake cavilry insted of bikes


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what is acute senses


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insted of atsknf cult of promethus all sallies are ferless land the game will not random end


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All units have ccw and bolt pistiols no able to use at range

Melta mine
are n/a s8 ap1 blast

you can creat a melta mine insted of his cc attacks itdettonates at I 1


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incedery bomb / grande
s 2 ap6 no coversave


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Warger
flame pistol
melta pistol
plasma pistol
bolt pistol
flamer
melta gun
plasma gun
hevy flamer
missile luancher
hevey bolter
multi melta
plasma cannon
lascannon
bolter
combi flamer
combi plasma gun
combi melta
storm sheild
combat blade
chain blade
chain fist
forge hammer
thunder hammer
frag krak incedery granades
melta bomb.


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Amour
termonater
atificer
power
scout.


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tanks
rino
razorback
predetor
wirlwind
vindecator
land raider
land raider crusader
land raider redemmer
land raider helios
land raider promethes
flame hawk
magma bird
tank transporter
land speeder
walkers
drednought
venrable
ironclad
su'matur


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Are we redy for units

wargey wrote:

what is acute senses

Are you serious? Acute Senses is a pretty basic rule, although maybe not as common in most codices.

IIRC it gives you re-rolls to night fighting.

wargey wrote:
sallies are nown for being restant to fire and mepta wepons all flame wepons are s1 ap- and melta wepons are s4 ap5 only on the sallies.

This is absurd...

 purplefood wrote:

wargey wrote:
sallies are nown for being restant to fire and mepta wepons all flame wepons are s1 ap- and melta wepons are s4 ap5 only on the sallies.

This is absurd...

Yes I know. I already noted him, but he always says that either I don't help him, or he just doesn't think my ideas are good.

I just found out that Acute senses allows you to reroll outflanking in the 6th ed.

wargey wrote:
sallies are nown for being restant to fire and mepta wepons all flame wepons are s1 ap- and melta wepons are s4 ap5 only on the sallies.

Salamanders aren't any more resistant to anything. This is you making up stuff.

Actuly it states that they are resetante to heat also nown as fire and in noctren by nick kyem tu'shan says to vel'cona that no fireborn can die by fire after the ferro igniss terns in to a phisk flame so that is my resoning.

wargey wrote:
Actuly it states that they are resetante to heat also nown as fire and in noctren by nick kyem tu'shan says to vel'cona that no fireborn can die by fire after the ferro igniss terns in to a phisk flame so that is my resoning.

I urge you to search Codex: Armageddon online somewhere. It is no longer available, or official so not much legal problems should occur.
It includes a wargear called the Salamander Mantle, which prevents ID by double strength.

You should add an extra wargear like that, but incompatible with the sallie mantle, of course. (Only if they are both like capes I mean.) Still, make a special wargear for HQs that increases resistance against flames, handflamers, inferno cannons, meltas, meltapistols and multimeltas. Maybe just make them count as -1S and 1 worse AP against a unit with this.

how do we make the firedrake's company


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ye cool rule

Into the fires of battle.

All flame weapons are ap 5 Min.

unto the anvil of war

All salamanders are -1 I +1S

So firedrakes you can upgrade any termie unit into a firedrake terminator unit all sternguard can be firedrakes and all vanguard can be firedrake riders or dactliyd pilot's.
Rules later.


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 LlamaAgility wrote:

You should add an extra wargear like that, but incompatible with the sallie mantle, of course. (Only if they are both like capes I mean.) Still, make a special wargear for HQs that increases resistance against flames, handflamers, inferno cannons, meltas, meltapistols and multimeltas. Maybe just make them count as -1S and 1 worse AP against a unit with this.

I used it as a rule for into the fires of battle change rule to what you said.

Well....um...ok....

Can we get like, a compilation of all the rules and stats you have made so far and put up? Would make this a bit easier to look at, because as it stands right now things are very scattered and hard to understand

All units ex cludiding sevetors get in to the fires of battle and unto the anvil of war
Anvil of war
-1 I. +1 S
Into the fires of battle
All melta and flamer wepons are -1 S. +1 AP

Rules chapilns
Valkuns fire beets in my brest with it I shall smite the foe of the emporour
+1 attack. And fuiros charge

Libarins are at end of the p1

All options are end of p1

New units
Drakes like thunder wolvs
Dactylids jet bikes that can cc and shoot hevy flamer whith rending
Sallie mantle iron halo but no insta deth agenst hero

 washout77 wrote:
Well....um...ok....

Can we get like, a compilation of all the rules and stats you have made so far and put up? Would make this a bit easier to look at, because as it stands right now things are very scattered and hard to understand

Truth flows from his mouth, like fire from a Nocturnean volcano!

I would like to see a battle report using some of these rules!

Can't cuse gw don't let you any ideas


Got a idea for chapilin elyssis

Same stats as sallie capilin

Stern
His squad have fell no pain
I shell smite you
chapilin elysus hase as meny attaks as all enemys in base contact have w

Warger
Power amour
Rozirus
Valkuns signil
As xavier
Bolt pistol
Master crafted crozx acrumn


Retniue
He can take up to 10 chergon intergators as a body gard
Chergon intergators
As a scouts
Stat wies
In to the fires of battle unto the anvil of war interegotors
Interegators
The enemy have to pass a toghness test or a moddle in cc loses 1 t 1 w
Warger
Scout amour
Interegation tools
Bolt pistol
Interegation tools bestow interegator detalid above count as power swords


There beast in cc but bad at range

wargey wrote:
Can't cuse gw don't let you any ideas

Huh?


OK, the SC looks pretty decent. Although, Im lost as to what his stats are. I know you said that they are the same as something, but I can't find it hahaha

Normal chapilin but with sallie rules

any ideas for master tu'shan

Here is a little tip for making fan made units. Make then underpowered. it does 2 things for you.

1)Give you a place to go. Its a lot easier to add on then take off.

2)Shows the community that you are willing to not make god like units and understand that you can compromise.


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Oh for got to add to this, if this army uses vulkan, it will be broken as hell. almost every unit will have a TL master crafted weapon.

Thanks but mabey some op units nids have them.


There calld geanstelers. Thousnd sons oblitorators. Baneblade. Hammerheads. Stormravens landrader monerlith

But we have basic rules just cost
Tatical sq. 100
Into the fires of battle
Unto the anvil of war
Atsknf
Prometan cult



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Valun loses rule