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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker



Charleston SC

So, I'm trying to custom make Runic armor for my HQ's does anyone have any suggestions for how I could make it? I already have artificer BA armor,
but am not sold on the look, seeing as it's obviously BA. Mk8 Errant armour from the tactical kit seems to be a winner. Has anyone else tried this?
I tried making greenstuff runes, but it was tough, and I didn't have a good technique down. Any suggestions welcome.

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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine





the Netherlands

do you have reference pictures? its kind of hard giving good suggestions based on assumptions

   
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Regular Dakkanaut






According to the wikia runic armor can look just like regular armor, but is usually earlier patterns than MkVI. I'd suggest kitbashing, depending on what you already use in your army the space wolves pack box has some cool power armor bits, same for BA death company. I'd say have a poke about on a bits site for cool pieces. GK have some neat bits too.
   
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker



Charleston SC

DijnsK wrote:
do you have reference pictures? its kind of hard giving good suggestions based on assumptions

Assumptions regarding what? I'm not sure what pics could really do here for you, and pics of what?

I'm asking for advice on creating something, not something I have already made.


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 Johnno wrote:
According to the wikia runic armor can look
just like regular armor, but is usually earlier patterns than MkVI. I'd suggest kitbashing, depending on what you already use
in your army the space wolves pack box has some cool power armor bits, same for BA death company. I'd say have a poke
about on a bits site for cool pieces. GK have some neat bits too.

Kit bashing sounds good, but then it dawned on me that I could cut out pieces of tape with a scalpel for the runes, and then

put the cut out on the model, and paint red/blue over the rune cutouts. I think that's going to be my best bet, maybe couple the

idea with a different armor set like you suggested, and paint the runes on unique looking armor, I just wish the armor looked a

little differently in the codex, it looks like ordinary power armor with some runes slapped on. I think I found my solution though,

any tips on types of tape to use? I know it sounds silly, but I have heard that certain tape works well with 40k spraying/covering.

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You can get some Heresy Era/Pre-Heresy Era armor from the Chaos SM kits, if that helps your direction at all. Just file off the chaos crap and you're golden.

Let me know how your stenciled runes turn out. Just use super light coats, or the paint will bleed under the edges of your stencil. Super light coats. I've got a project sitting on the side that needs runes, but I'm unsure on how to do it. I was leaning more towards using an engraver myself, but that's just me.

As for a type of tape, I would go hit Walmart and get yourself a roll of Frog Tape painters tape. It's green, rather than the typical blue masking tape. Same isle as the tapes, right near the painting supplies, usually 1-2 isles right of the paint isle

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You don't need to carve or sculpt runes if you don't want to. Simply painting glowing runes on the armor looks great if you can do OSL well.

The easiest way to give it a more three dimensional feel would simply be carving with a knife though. Raised sculpted runes would not only look a bit strange (runes are usually carved into stone, not medals pinned onto the armor, right?) but it'd be much harder to paint and apply.
   
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker



Charleston SC

 fenrir1997 wrote:
You can get some Heresy Era/Pre-Heresy Era armor from the Chaos SM kits, if that helps your direction at all. Just file off the chaos crap and you're golden.

Let me know how your stenciled runes turn out. Just use super light coats, or the paint will bleed under the edges of your stencil. Super light coats. I've got a project sitting on the side that needs runes, but I'm unsure on how to do it. I was leaning more towards using an engraver myself, but that's just me.

As for a type of tape, I would go hit Walmart and get yourself a roll of Frog Tape painters tape. It's green, rather than the typical blue masking tape. Same isle as the tapes, right near the painting supplies, usually 1-2 isles right of the paint isle

I like the idea of engraving, then maybe use a red/blue wash to fill in the runes. I would be going super light too, I figured it would bleed if I went crazy with it. I think I'll practice on old sprue, and if I mess up, oh well, I don't have to worry about touching it up. As for OSL, I'm probably going to wait on this until I get an airbrush, and setup, so I can do OSL, I think that would make the model 10x better.


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RayND wrote:
You don't need to carve or sculpt runes if you don't want to. Simply painting glowing runes on the armor looks great if you can do OSL well.

The easiest way to give it a more three dimensional feel would simply be carving with a knife though. Raised sculpted runes would not only look a bit strange (runes are usually carved into stone, not medals pinned onto the armor, right?) but it'd be much harder to paint and apply.

I'm not sure about that, the terminator rune priest in failcast looks like he has raised runes, but I think your right about it not looking as aesthetically pleasing, as carved, or stenciled.


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 fenrir1997 wrote:
You can get some Heresy Era/Pre-Heresy Era armor from the Chaos SM kits, if that helps your direction at all. Just file off the chaos crap and you're golden.

Let me know how your stenciled runes turn out. Just use super light coats, or the paint will bleed under the edges of your stencil. Super light coats. I've got a project sitting on the side that needs runes, but I'm unsure on how to do it. I was leaning more towards using an engraver myself, but that's just me.

As for a type of tape, I would go hit Walmart and get yourself a roll of Frog Tape painters tape. It's green, rather than the typical blue masking tape. Same isle as the tapes, right near the painting supplies, usually 1-2 isles right of the paint isle

The only thing with engraving is, the runes need to be on the smaller side(at least for runic armor) or you wont get very many on the armor. I just don't know how small you could get with an engraver.

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It's tricky, I agree, but I would definitely do some experimenting on some spare plastic beforehand, just in case it didn't work to my satisfaction.

If the engraver failed to work, then I'd be doing some stenciling of my own with my airbrush. I'm just not fond of stenciling at such a small scale (I typically fudge it up )

Why is it that only those who have never fought in a battle are so eager to be in one? 
   
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker



Charleston SC

 fenrir1997 wrote:
It's tricky, I agree, but I would definitely do some experimenting on some spare plastic beforehand, just in case it didn't work to my satisfaction.

If the engraver failed to work, then I'd be doing some stenciling of my own with my airbrush. I'm just not fond of stenciling at such a small scale (I typically fudge it up )


actually, Scibor makes a "celtic series which I'm going to use for runic armor instead, it looks awesome,

and with the torso/leg set, I can put my own SW heads/arms/weapons

and I custom make my wolf head backpacks from the frost axe wolf head,

so I'll stick that on there too. The scibor series looks incredible, and has a bunch of runes already on the torso/legs combo's.

Tell me these wouldn't be perfect, with some SW stuff thrown on them.

http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=960#i/conversion_parts/big/celtic_armours_set_01.jpg

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Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

They'd be great, but keep in mind the size of them! Scibors miniatures tend to look like they tower above standard GW marines.
   
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If you can't sculpt or paint runes why not try the brass etch runes from secret weapon
   
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker



Charleston SC

Rorschach9 wrote:
They'd be great, but keep in mind the size of them! Scibors miniatures tend to look like they tower above standard GW marines.

That sucks, I kind of figured they'd be the right size, but they have to be 28mm Heroic right? I Think the Scibor ones are just 28mm.

They look like they based these models off of 40k, so it wouldn't make sense if they towered over 40k models.


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Rorschach9 wrote:
They'd be great, but keep in mind the size of them! Scibors miniatures tend to look like they tower above standard GW marines.


I just found on another forum someone used the same series Scibor models I want to, I just have to make sure they are not the 33mm ones. But he said they (the 28mm) worked well with his SW army.


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rhodry wrote:
If you can't sculpt or paint runes why not try the brass etch runes from secret weapon

Those look really cool, my only thing is they look a little big. I'd probably use them on my vehicles though.

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Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

Here's a great size comparison of Scibor's 28mm minis vs GW minis -

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/380472.page

They are a little larger (about 10% give or take) but workable for the most part.

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