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i just started using deff koptas and iv had alot of success outflanking them with all twin linked big shootas.

has anyone else had success with them in other ways?

I use them as tank hunters armed w/ tl rokkits.

I usually grab big gunz, but throwing in the tl mobile rokkits seems to help against players who turtle.

ill have to try that. im a big fan of tank bustas though so i usually have that tank hunter spot filled.

do you usually outflank them or just drive them around?

How do deffkoptas outflank? Unless you get lucky and get the warlord trait.

I've had terrible success with them this weekend. Picked up 6 of them and I don't believe they hurt a thing. Twin Linked Rokkits on AV 13 with that sad ork BS just doesnt seem worth it.

 Wingeds wrote:
How do deffkoptas outflank? Unless you get lucky and get the warlord trait.

I've had terrible success with them this weekend. Picked up 6 of them and I don't believe they hurt a thing. Twin Linked Rokkits on AV 13 with that sad ork BS just doesnt seem worth it.

They have the scout special rule, pg 41, scout grants outflank.

Mostly double rokkits and stick to 24 inches away from targets to keep them alive.

Im just starting, but I plan on running at least 3. They are one of my favorite models. Could anyone tell me where I can find rules for the Chinok?

Also do people ever run the buz saws?

iv tend to find they get rather owned in CC but against tanks the buzz saw could be really cool.

they are great for getting line breaker and harassing units in the back field too.

popping tanks rear armor is great fun with outfank.


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has any one tried using the big bombs and doing bomb strikes flying over people? cause that sounds awesome

TL Rokkits hit quite often, it effectivly makes you a BS4. At least for me, i hit 80% of the time with my 3 TL Rokkit deffkoptas i like to run to tankbust enemy transports on turn 1. Thats funny when im playing against space marines and they take 2 transports and dont get to move either of them (Deffkoptas can be run solo, so if im not running bikers or dakkajets i split them up into solo groups to maximize their attacks and allow them to last longer if caught since wounds dont go between units).

I never, ever get buzzsaws because deffkoptas are squishy. Theyre only real bonus is the elusiveness of Jink and their 24inch turbo. Melee range negates both, and theyre as bad as a boy with 2 wounds.

when 6th first came out, some people were recommending using deff koptas to charge units before your boyz charged that unit. The deff kopta would eat up the overwatch and your boyz could charge overwatch-free. Do people think this is a good idea?

mouskowitz wrote:
i just started using deff koptas and iv had alot of success outflanking them with all twin linked big shootas.

has anyone else had success with them in other ways?

Yup. I run them with a biker boss, have been since the start of 6th. A hit n run T6 PK toating boss is hard to beat

has any one tried the bombs the deff koptas can get?

yeah a biker boss would be pretty sweet to have outflank.

what do you run the koptas equipped with?

Just a side note, if you run a single kopta with your boss you can claim majority T6 vs. shooting attacks (but not for ID purposes) for the kopta!


T6 2 wound meat shield that lets da boss outflank




Letting the koptas eat overwatch for boys is a good idea too. T5 and 4+ save vs T4 and 6+ save... 5 marines rapid firing in overwatch would hit 1.66 times and wound .83 times (~1) against the boys while only doing .5478 wounds against the T5 kopter..... and if you have a T6 kopter.... .277 wounds

haha 35 points to give your warboss outflank


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so do yall think i would be better to run one squad of 5 or 2 squads of 3?

mouskowitz wrote:
has any one tried the bombs the deff koptas can get?

yeah a biker boss would be pretty sweet to have outflank.

what do you run the koptas equipped with?

I run them stock, but if I have the points, Ill give one of the koptas a buzzsaw. That way if I split the boss off, they can go and actually do damage to another unit. But if not, stock, the bigshootas TL just tares units up, even a SM unit feels that volley most the time, and it keeps them cheap, because really, Im just using them to give obvious benefits to the boss. So they are 1. Buff the Boss 2. expendable and if still alive 3. Tie up/destroy another unit. Its a pretty big bang for my buck

deffidently. those twin linked big shootas aren't to bad at popping back armor either if you really need them too.

how are you kitting out you biker boss?

I've bren running 2 squads of 5 with a buzzsaw in each. I put Wazzdakka in one of the squads and thats my entire anti-tank I usually scout ahead with them and break off Wazdakka and target 3 different vehicle's on side or rear armour. They are also supprisingly good against flyers and make great turn 5 objective contesters as they can move a total of 36" with the 24" jet bike turbo boost. I'm finding them a lot more durable than in 5th with the 5+ cover save they get from jink and geniune T5 making them even better as anything AP 4 or better or S8 use to tear them apart

In 5th edition I ran them in groups of 2 with rokkits and 1 buzzsaw, I wouldl try and scout up or outflank and be a suicide unit to go after tanks. 6th edition has changed this greatly.

For 6th I stopped for a while and have started running them again. My old tactics didn't work due to not being able to charge 1st turn after a scout move and the "first blood" victory point. I have started running them in squads of 5 with rokkits and 2 buzzsaws. Instead of a first turn blitz tank hunter unit they now are a mid game/mid field tank hunting unit, that I keep back more often. I have found that since I have started playing them this way they actually last a lot longer and are great to stop transports or tanks advancing onto you side of the board, I run lootas also but they tend to go after flyers or things farther away.

mouskowitz wrote:
deffidently. those twin linked big shootas aren't to bad at popping back armor either if you really need them too.

how are you kitting out you biker boss?

Typical boss loadout.
PK
Cybork
Bosspole
Squig

whaaaaaa? no kombi skorcha? I didn't used to run it myself but have started to. Actually used to run rokkit+ammo runt on the boss so he could shoot at whatever the rokkit kopters were